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Pidae.m · 28-01-2017 12:56PM

Especially for cattle from that town ðŸ˜œ

Butcher Boy wrote: »

ya I was in macroom as well and the same story ,any thing under 400kg both male and female a mighty trade even the handy fr was selling well.in macroom on sat I saw 420kg ch blks 3 in bunch make 1095, me thinks too dear.

TITANIUM. · 28-01-2017 02:41PM

Butcher Boy wrote: »

ya I was in macroom as well and the same story ,any thing under 400kg both male and female a mighty trade even the handy fr was selling well.in macroom on sat I saw 420kg ch blks 3 in bunch make 1095, me thinks too dear.

Hard to say without knowing the quality of um.
But 2.60 a kg for a decent Ch Bulluck doesn't seem that pricey to me.

Pidae.m · 28-01-2017 02:47PM

Terrible continental cattle there.

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Hard to say without knowing the quality of um.
But 2.60 a kg for a decent Ch Bulluck doesn't seem that pricey to me.

Willfarman · 28-01-2017 05:03PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Hard to say without knowing the quality of um.
But 2.60 a kg for a decent Ch Bulluck doesn't seem that pricey to me.

When a decent underage Charolais bullock is netting 1450?

It's not art We are dealing in here!

Butcher Boy · 28-01-2017 05:39PM

Willfarman wrote: »

When a decent underage Charolais bullock is netting 1450?

It's not art We are dealing in here!

in fairness I don't know how ye finishing boys make money and stores coming in at that kind of price,and feck it the man that has reard the weanling wants every pound he is getting too.

Bass Reeves · 28-01-2017 05:40PM

Willfarman wrote: »

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Hard to say without knowing the quality of um.
But 2.60 a kg for a decent Ch Bulluck doesn't seem that pricey to me.

When a decent underage Charolais bullock is netting 1450?

It's not art We are dealing in here!

Economics make no sense at times a base of 3.8 is equivalent to an average price of 4/kg for Charley cattle. This is equivalent to a LW price at slaughter of 2.2/kg . If going to grass they would leave a margin into the shed for finishing you be a busy fool

TITANIUM. · 28-01-2017 07:09PM

Lad's there's probably the bones of a thousand euro already in those Bullocks.

Not everything can be judged from the point of view of how much a finisher can expect to be paid come slaughter day.
Instead I work off how much any man or woman is willing to pay on sale day. If his highest figure doesn't overlap with my lowest figure then we won't be doing business.

Of course I'm looking at it from the suckler man's point of view. But it's my job to do that and make my margin. You can make your margin however you want. But you won't be doing it after buying cattle cheap off me.

TITANIUM. · 28-01-2017 07:13PM

Willfarman wrote: »

When a decent underage Charolais bullock is netting 1450?

It's not art We are dealing in here!

A neighbour showed me one of his factory slips the other day. Good Ch and Lm bullocks they came into 1550 at the lowest and 1780 for the top lad.

Who2 · 28-01-2017 07:27PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

A neighbour showed me one of his factory slips the other day. Good Ch and Lm bullocks they came into 1550 at the lowest and 1780 for the top lad.

And like that I seen one for a batch of friesan bulls and everything from 1100-1380. From what I'm hearing finished cattle just aren't there at the moment.

Bass Reeves · 28-01-2017 08:11PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Willfarman wrote: »

When a decent underage Charolais bullock is netting 1450?

It's not art We are dealing in here!

A neighbour showed me one of his factory slips the other day. Good Ch and Lm bullocks they came into 1550 at the lowest and 1780 for the top lad.

Were these sub two-year old cattle. The must have averaged over ,410 kgs DW so about 750 LW. It would not be possible to get them to that weight from a sub 500/kg store out of a shed. Giving a gain of 1.4 kgs/ day LW gain it would take 105 days to get 150 kgs on them. That would be 8-10 kgs of ration and good silage costing about 2.5/day including miscellaneous costs about 300 euro..

The 420 kg bullock above IMO is only suitable for going to grass and for slaughter next August/September

Willfarman · 29-01-2017 10:40AM

A descant r grade Charolais bullock 700kgs will hang up 380 kgs. 3.80 a kilo plus 12cent qa is 3.92 x 380 is €1492 gross minus factory deductions and transport €1472.
Add 50 euro for an r+ or 100 euro for a U.

Make em bigger and you'll get a bigger Cheque yes but a finishing bullock here is costing 3 euro a day. 50 kilos live weight is costing 130 euro to put there.

I know suckler man needs every cent of that for those small bullocks,
but 3.80 Kilo can't work unless the next man is both exercising his money his farm and himself for free.. (Or a bit less)

Willfarman · 29-01-2017 10:49AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Were these sub two-year old cattle. The must have averaged over ,410 kgs DW so about 750 LW. It would not be possible to get them to that weight from a sub 500/kg store out of a shed. Giving a gain of 1.4 kgs/ day LW gain it would take 105 days to get 150 kgs on them. That would be 8-10 kgs of ration and good silage costing about 2.5/day including miscellaneous costs about 300 euro..

The 420 kg bullock above IMO is only suitable for going to grass and for slaughter next August/September

They'd need to be big hairy cattle weighing nothing for size and do fantasticly well to be fit by then. These kind of cattle are rare nowadays though. You'd have to budget for next Christmas kill after 2 or 3 months feeding really.

Who2 · 29-01-2017 12:22PM

For the lads finishing friesains. I've a batch of Holstein friesain bulls 300 kg. would it be viable to finish these by the end of June or would I be throwing too much meal at them. I don't want to graze them as I don't really have ground for them and didn't want to throw them away either.

Bass Reeves · 29-01-2017 12:58PM

Who2 wrote: »

For the lads finishing friesains. I've a batch of Holstein friesain bulls 300 kg. would it be viable to finish these by the end of June or would I be throwing too much meal at them. I don't want to graze them as I don't really have ground for them and didn't want to throw them away either.

Not a hope in hell. If you want to do them as bulls then maybe next Christmas is an option if still under 24 months. To be fineished by next June they want to be hitting of 450 kgs now and would be lightish at that. TBH the sub 24 months is killing the Friesian bull finishing market as unless they hit grass as yearlings at 350 kgs it a struggle to kill them at decent weights ore and post the following Christmas's. These bulls are being priced around 3.6 at present from what I hear. A good 350 kg O grade bull will only net a bit with 1250 euro.

Who2 · 29-01-2017 01:05PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Not a hope in hell. If you want to do them as bulls then maybe next Christmas is an option if still under 24 months. To be fineished by next June they want to be hitting of 450 kgs now and would be lightish at that. TBH the sub 24 months is killing the Friesian bull finishing market as unless they hit grass as yearlings at 350 kgs it a struggle to kill them at decent weights ore and post the following Christmas's. These bulls are being priced around 3.6 at present from what I hear. A good 350 kg O grade bull will only net a bit with 1250 euro.

Would I be better squeezing them and sell them off as grass cattle or leave them whole.

Cavanjack · 29-01-2017 01:19PM

Who2 wrote: »

Would I be better squeezing them and sell them off as grass cattle or leave them whole.

Leave them whole, it leaves an option for the next man to either squeeze or leave whole. Saw similar make €550 last week. Crazy if you ask me but somebody was willing to pay it.

Who2 · 29-01-2017 01:22PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Leave them whole, it leaves an option for the next man to either squeeze or leave whole. Saw similar make €550 last week. Crazy if you ask me but somebody was willing to pay it.

If I got 550 each I might even give a luck penny.

Bass Reeves · 29-01-2017 02:14PM

Who2 wrote: »

Would I be better squeezing them and sell them off as grass cattle or leave them whole.

If they are extreme HO I would leave them whole. If they are good middle of the road I think I would squeeze them. However if selling fairly soon I be slow to squeeze now. Freshly squeezed cattle tend not to sell well IMO lads buying bullocks that pay silly prices for cattle like to see there b@lls well shrunk.

blockie · 30-01-2017 10:31PM

hi ,don't post that often but was looking for yere opinion,have a bunch of limousine bulls half black half red about 250 kilo average was wondering should I squeeze them or not .tha nks in advance ,my mart would be macroom

Who2 · 30-01-2017 10:33PM

blockie wrote: »

hi ,don't post that often but was looking for yere opinion,have a bunch of limousine bulls half black half red about 250 kilo average was wondering should I squeeze them or not .tha nks in advance ,my mart would be macroom

What age?

Bass Reeves · 31-01-2017 12:27AM

Suckler or dairy bred

blockie · 31-01-2017 07:45AM

Sorry.yes they are suckler bred april /may calved

Who2 · 31-01-2017 07:49AM

Could be anything from 650-800 depending on the calf

Pidae.m · 31-01-2017 07:50AM

When are you thinking of selling them

blockie wrote: »

hi ,don't post that often but was looking for yere opinion,have a bunch of limousine bulls half black half red about 250 kilo average was wondering should I squeeze them or not .tha nks in advance ,my mart would be macroom

sirbobby · 31-01-2017 09:59AM

Who2 wrote: »

Could be anything from 650-800 depending on the calf

800 for a 250kg calf?

blockie · 31-01-2017 10:28AM

Dealer offered me 550 each for the lot 12 bulls and eight heifers about a month ago thought theyd make more thinkinh of castrating tjem and holding for month?

Bass Reeves · 31-01-2017 10:47AM

blockie wrote: »

Dealer offered me 550 each for the lot 12 bulls and eight heifers about a month ago thought theyd make more thinkinh of castrating tjem and holding for month?

The boats to Turkey are supposed to be on the go again soon. The demand is for bulls. You would be in the ballpark weight range for them. Not sure what they are paying. If you squeeze them is a month long enough for the b@lks to shrink lads that buy bullocks and pay a premium want tbemwell shrunk so that there are no rigs in the bunch

blockie · 31-01-2017 01:29PM

Ok just thought farmer wouldnt go neat bulls and might be more demand for bullock how long would you have to hold em after squezze

Butcher Boy · 31-01-2017 02:30PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

The boats to Turkey are supposed to be on the go again soon. The demand is for bulls. You would be in the ballpark weight range for them. Not sure what they are paying. If you squeeze them is a month long enough for the b@lks to shrink lads that buy bullocks and pay a premium want tbemwell shrunk so that there are no rigs in the bunch

pat Kelleher in macroom is buying for turkey at the moment,

TITANIUM. · 31-01-2017 03:38PM

blockie wrote: »

Sorry.yes they are suckler bred april /may calved

Jesus leave them whole. Put as much weight on them as you can. If there decent suckler stock then you'll probably be looking at close to 500 with there weight.
From what I'm hearing here though Macroom might not be the best spot to shift um. There's other marts not a million miles from you that would have more of a demand for this type of stock with special weanling sales coming up!

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