Ireland De-Facto Visa

As far as I know, it's the last two years living together. I applied before and got it rejected within a day

You need a Police Clearance of all the countries where you´ve lived in the last five years.

The Inis website has the full list of requirements.

You can request it to your local garda station. Some of them will do it via email.

I can't believe you were refused on that basis! We are going to submit our application this week but are in the exact same position. We lived at my partners parents house for 2 months when we got here while we travelled the country and looked for our own place. I feel like we should leave that part out now. Please keep us updated when you get an answer, good luck!

Tameanseo19 & Jack09:

I feel your frustration and angst. I have no tolerance for plain bullying and putting up with the government’s complacent and incompetent approaches in processing visas/permits. It is not my first time living and working abroad. As a Malaysian citizen who lived and worked in Australia, this sort of nonsensical and unsystematic processes leaves De Facto partners with no status in the country, and no right to work in the country, is unheard of and unacceptable.

Straightforward and clear guidelines, prerequisites and ALL required documents for processing student visas, work permits, etc. are stated in black and white, and in detail, for applications going through the Australian immigration department, unlike the ones here. No guidelines or outline of all required documents, were presented on the website or at the INIS office.

My partner and I received a follow-up letter from INIS requesting for recent utility bills for current address. As my partner and I are temporarily living at his parents’ home until the De Facto decision comes through, we are unable to provide this. It seems to us the letter from INIS is implying that we should commit to a permanent residential address and perhaps, secure a mortgage for it, when my status in Ireland is unknown and uncertain. These are long term decisions and commitments. It is utterly absurd to request for this document, to be a part of the De Facto Partnership Application.

I lodged my De Facto Partnership Application with my four-year Irish partner early August 2016, in other words, approximately six months ago. We have cohabited together in Australia (where we met) and Malaysia (my country). I have not yet received any news from INIS on this but as I am reading the outcome of your applications, I am not too optimistic about the final decision.

Seeing to this, I am writing to The Irish Times a few stories similar to mine. And was hoping you’d like to participate. Do send me a personal message here.

The reason for my actions to take it to a major Irish news publication is to put forward the ongoing unjust, abusive and inappropriate language and treatment, that I have experienced throughout my correspondence with the De Facto and related INIS departments. I would love to put through a couple of stories similar to mine, and submit it to The Irish Times.

It is this sort of incidences that is now encouraging my Irish partner and I to leave Ireland for good. Thus, defeating the Irish Government’s recent campaign purpose to encourage emigrants arriving home for their Christmas holiday to move back to Ireland permanently.

Hi Tameanseo19

I am pleased to hear that you are open to sharing your story with the Irish Times. Kindly send it through to [removed - PM if you want to share contact details]

And the end of the day, it really boils down to why on earth was the De Facto Partnership Immigration Permission established in the first place? They are better off not having the department at all if they are going to decline genuine and legitimate applicants.

Looking forward to hear from you via email.

Thanks a bunch, Diane.

Hey Tamean,

what did you supply as evidence? how is the appeal process?

We did not submit any utility bills as the bills were in her name, i was not on it.

We are renting our own apartment and staying together now. we did mention that we are renting and staying together by ourselves.

It didnt come to us that we needed to submit the lease too.

Other than that we have everything.

couldnt they have just rejected you without dragging it for 5 months?

what are the odds that they will ask us to furnish extra evidence? or is that the rejection and then appeal?

If we had extra evidence to furnish and add on to our existing application, can we still send that in ?

Hello all,

just an update. i submitted my application and received the status number. i did not tell them that I have not stayed together for 2 years due to my parents falling apart and me having to take care of my mum. will submit more documents and see how it goes

n7483 wrote: »

Hi erinice89,

Hi,

You should look at the list of evidence listed in the INIS website. You are missing very important documents, like passports, medical insurance, bank statements for the past 6 months (even if separate), proof of joint address for the past 2 years, and if you are not living in Ireland, you should also include reasons on why to move here and what would you be doing.

The two main things that they look at are that the relationship is real, and that you won't be a burden to the State in any way.

They can reject the application straightaway if something is extremely wrong with it, but they might also just keep it for months and then reject it, or ask for more documents.

I have submitted all the above mentioned for them. Bank statement wise I took a screen shot of my online bank statement to show them of my savings at the moment which is more than enough for me to not be a burden. The only thing I can prove is the joint address/staying togerher.

Insurance everything else has been submitted really need lots of luck now

Hello,

I am American and my Irish partner of 4+ years have submitted an application for a De Facto Partnership visa on February 1, 2017. Since I am American I can only stay for 90 days which are coming to a close. Do I need to book a flight home or can I stay in Ireland while I'm waiting? Is there a way to get an extension? I travel frequently and do not want to have anything affect future travels nor my current application. I received a letter already acknowledging its receipt as well as a second asking for an affadavit from my partner's parents stating that our relationship is genuine and that we are residing at his home while we await a decision. I just don't want to leave my partner if I don't have to as I'd have to return home for another 90 days before I can reenter. Please advise. I'd appreciate any and all advice and past experiences!

I actually just received an email back from INIS saying that it is my responsibility to have a legal means of staying in the country and that their office cannot provide a temporary permission to stay.

I'm confused because if you have to apply within the country and can only stay for 90 days but the process takes 6 months what is one to do? Also, which office does handle that if immigration does not?

The process is kind of contradicting itself and I'm wondering if they themselves are not allowed to advise that I stay. I can't imagine they don't get inquiries regarding this daily as it's a really important issue. There should be some sort of protocol set up.

ElChe32 wrote: »

The system here is flawed...to put it lightly. Not enough case workers within the department and incredible backlogs. I agree that once your application is put in, and accepted by the department, you should be allowed to remain -as a dependent- until the decision is made. Keep us updated with how you get on.

Hi again!

So I just received another letter back from INIS saying that if my permission is up while my application is processed I can apply for a stamp 3 to the De Facto Residence Division. Has anyone had experience doing this? Do I just write a letter basically requesting a stamp 3 while I wait?

Hi All!

Wondering what type of insurance you've purchased? I've already submitted my de facto application and already remain in the state. I am a US citizen but have been granted a permission to stay while my application processes. I have to go into the Garda and bring proof of insurance in order to register and am not sure what type to get. I've looked into Travel Nomads as they offer insurance if you are already abroad but is travel insurance adequate? Would love any advice or past experiences as what is acceptable!!! Did you submit insurance with your application? If so, what kind and should I submit to INIS once I purchase? Thanks again!!!!

Hi guys I'm about to apply with my boyfriend, just wondering, those who were living with parents, did yous get a positive reply in the end?

Just worrying because I'm in the same situation, although we do pay rent etc.

caitcakes wrote: »

Still waiting on a decision but they requested a signed affidavit from his parents confirming the legitimacy of our relationship and that we are living together with them. They requested that fairly soon after submitting our application. All I can say is submit as much as possible because they will come back requesting more documents.

Thanks for replying.

That's a shame, I know a couple who submitted theier application in February and got the reply few weeks ago.

I think the forms were updated so I need to sign them in front of a lawyer anyway, they say if you live with a family member the witness must be the home owner.

Best of luck!