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DCM 2016 Graduates: Keep On Running

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    I was going to talk to you about S.M.A.R.T. goals (or whatever the latest acronym is :rolleyes:) but I realised you all know about setting goals and achieving them. Every one of you graduates has done that by training for, and completing, a marathon.

    In the short-terms some of you have time-based goals and are chasing PBs, others want to reach particular mileage goals and a few have more general goals of simply getting back into some sort of running routine. Some of you have mentioned focusing on strength & conditioning (which I wholeheartedly approve of!), losing weight and/or improving nutrition and one or two have mentioned ‘the dark side’ (careful now :P). Some of you plan to join a club. A few want to start a training log. All good.

    It is important to have a goal to get you out the door and give a purpose to your running. If you don’t have something to aim for it’s too easy to become complacent, lazy even, and that can become a slippery slope. It doesn’t mean that you pursue your goal relentlessly at all costs i.e. if you’re unwell, injured etc. but it might mean getting out of your comfort zone on occasion.

    If I could suggest one thing, it’s that you aim for consistency. I don’t mean doing the same thing day in day out, but I do mean that you follow a structured plan. It often happens that people bite off a bit more than they can chew and are all gung ho for a week or two before the realisation dawns that they can’t keep it up and the good intentions go out the window. You’re better off starting conservatively and gradually working your way up to whatever it is you want to achieve. Sound familiar :pac::pac::pac::pac: ?

    I’ll leave it to the Good Witch of the North for some sage advice:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    Thanks for the advice BG. The goal for 'getting you out the door' is true I think. Very easy not to get out for a run if you're not training for something with a finish line.

    I'm sitting here trying to plan out what marathons I'm doing for 2017. It won't be decided tonight but I'm thinking three - spaced out nicely. One here and two abroad. Exciting stuff for a Sunday night :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭ToriV


    Bungy Girl wrote: »
    I was going to talk to you about S.M.A.R.T. goals (or whatever the latest acronym is :rolleyes:) but I realised you all know about setting goals and achieving them. Every one of you graduates has done that by training for, and completing, a marathon.

    In the short-terms some of you have time-based goals and are chasing PBs, others want to reach particular mileage goals and a few have more general goals of simply getting back into some sort of running routine. Some of you have mentioned focusing on strength & conditioning (which I wholeheartedly approve of!), losing weight and/or improving nutrition and one or two have mentioned ‘the dark side’ (careful now :P). Some of you plan to join a club. A few want to start a training log. All good.

    It is important to have a goal to get you out the door and give a purpose to your running. If you don’t have something to aim for it’s too easy to become complacent, lazy even, and that can become a slippery slope. It doesn’t mean that you pursue your goal relentlessly at all costs i.e. if you’re unwell, injured etc. but it might mean getting out of your comfort zone on occasion.

    If I could suggest one thing, it’s that you aim for consistency. I don’t mean doing the same thing day in day out, but I do mean that you follow a structured plan. It often happens that people bite off a bit more than they can chew and are all gung ho for a week or two before the realisation dawns that they can’t keep it up and the good intentions go out the window. You’re better off starting conservatively and gradually working your way up to whatever it is you want to achieve. Sound familiar :pac::pac::pac::pac: ?

    I’ll leave it to the Good Witch of the North for some sage advice:

    ff61786ec5d131b59aabff8558675244.jpg

    Dare I ask....what is this dark side of which you speak??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭ToriV


    Thanks for the advice BG. The goal for 'getting you out the door' is true I think. Very easy not to get out for a run if you're not training for something with a finish line.

    I'm sitting here trying to plan out what marathons I'm doing for 2017. It won't be decided tonight but I'm thinking three - spaced out nicely. One here and two abroad. Exciting stuff for a Sunday night :P

    Exciting! Where are you thinking of? I think 2 is enough for me next year with kids and work and maybe not getting divorced!! Mad.... Only going to do two,when this time last year 15 milers scared the life out me!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    ToriV wrote: »
    Dare I ask....what is this dark side of which you speak??


    I think that's a reference to triathlon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭tailgunner


    Hope I'm not too late to the thread - I've been following it from the start but hadn't really settled on answers to TM's questions!

    What are your next goals?

    I've been struggling with motivation for the last few weeks so all I want to do is get back to consistent running. I could also do with shifting the few pounds I've put on since Berlin!

    What type of training to you intend to do over the winter?

    Mainly easy running for now. I want to build up a decent base over the next few weeks, and then start a half marathon training plan in January.

    I'm signed up for a 10k race this Sunday, but I'm in no sort of shape for it, so expectations are extremely low. Hopefully will have a much better crack at a 5k race on 27th December.

    Where do you hope to see yourself to be in 12 months with your running?

    I'd like to have run a sub-20 5k, sub-42 10k, and sub-1:35 half marathon. Very unlikely I'll do a marathon next year, but hopefully I'll be gearing up for one in Spring 2018.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭tailgunner


    Bungy Girl wrote: »
    If I could suggest one thing, it’s that you aim for consistency. I don’t mean doing the same thing day in day out, but I do mean that you follow a structured plan. It often happens that people bite off a bit more than they can chew and are all gung ho for a week or two before the realisation dawns that they can’t keep it up and the good intentions go out the window. You’re better off starting conservatively and gradually working your way up to whatever it is you want to achieve. Sound familiar :pac::pac::pac::pac: ?

    This really strikes a chord, as this is exactly what happened to me after the Berlin marathon. Since then, my weekly mileage has looked like this:

    5
    3
    15
    26
    30
    27
    8
    17

    I think if I'd taken a few weeks off entirely, I'd be in a much better position now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    ToriV wrote: »
    Exciting! Where are you thinking of? I think 2 is enough for me next year with kids and work and maybe not getting divorced!! Mad.... Only going to do two,when this time last year 15 milers scared the life out me!!

    I went ahead and booked Rotterdam last night for early April. It's meant to be a nice and flat course. Great excuse for a small break too.

    Thinking of Waterford which is near the end of June.

    Then it's either Dublin or Toronto in October. I'd hate to miss Dublin as the experience was that good - but we'll see how it pans out.

    Hopefully it goes to plan, injury wise etc but I'm glad I settled on Rotterdam. It gives me over four months to prepare and it will keep me focused on a plan - which I definitely need heading into the Christmas and New Year.

    Yeah I hear you - 'only two' :D. I couldn't lay a glove on 15 miles before I started training for DCM. Two or three marathons in a year is all good!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    tailgunner wrote: »
    This really strikes a chord, as this is exactly what happened to me after the Berlin marathon. Since then, my weekly mileage has looked like this:

    5
    3
    15
    26
    30
    27
    8
    17

    I think if I'd taken a few weeks off entirely, I'd be in a much better position now.

    Thanks for sharing that TG , I have been wondering if I'm not running as much as I should but on reading that I'm not feeling as guilty as I was.


    I have a slight pain in my lower back the last two days, it's not running related but I have had lower back issues in the past so I think I'll take it easy again this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Tessie13


    Bit late to thread but excited to be part of it! Came across the novice thread too late but am looking forward to hearing everyone's advise etc

    What are your next goals?

    I am feeling very motivated but think my body is telling me to calm down! Took full 10 days off after DCM and have done 5 x 5ks since but my feet and hip are at me!! Really wanted to push on this week and increase mileage but am thinking I might take the week off and hopefully feet and hip will start to feel better! Am hoping to do aware 10k in December but just planning on running it rather than racing it. My first goal will be the Raheny 5 Mile in Jan, hoping for PB Sub 44 min, then Trim 10 Mile in Feb, and the big one Half in Bohermeen in March, hoping to finally get sub 2 hrs !

    What type of training to you intend to do over the winter?

    Run 2/3 time a week and couple of classes in the gym. I want to get back into the track but I'm going to wait until I have these niggles sorted as I find speedwork can aggrevate injuries


    Where do you hope to see yourself to be in 12 months with your running?

    Having suffered from injury for most of last year, my training for DCM was all about getting miles on the legs, I did no speed work at all! I hope I can get back into track, doing a bit of speedwork and improve my times!

    I was out for 8 months with Plantar Faciitis before I started training for DCM, I'm really paranoid about injuries! Both my feet are sore after every run since DCM and am terrified it's PF again !! Hoping it's just recovering from DCM and will be ok in a few weeks !


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,492 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Enjoyed kicking the Autumn leaves last week. Today's winter gust is less appealing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Got the tights on for this run


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭All or nothing


    tailgunner wrote: »
    This really strikes a chord, as this is exactly what happened to me after the Berlin marathon. Since then, my weekly mileage has looked like this:

    5
    3
    15
    26
    30
    27
    8
    17

    I think if I'd taken a few weeks off entirely, I'd be in a much better position now.

    Great to see this thread set up. I haven't ran since the marathon. My feet still aren't right. Back to the physio on Thursday so hopefully some treatment will help. I'll answer the questions over the next few days. I'm going to have to start doing some kind of non running exercise to try and keep up the fitness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭kittyclaws


    :eek:Hips still not great. The last time I ran was the Run in the Dark, I dropped back to 5k on the night but had no pain after the first 2k so I wish I tried the 10k.

    I've just purchased an aqua running belt from Irishfit.eu, it only cost €8.99 so I'll try that out a few times a week and see some pool running makes a difference.

    I've put on half a stone since the marathon - I just cant snap out of carb-loading mode :eek: Considering my average weekly running is 3-6 miles I'd better start behaving this week, any extra weight wreaks havoc on my knees :(
    I think the problem is that I miss having a plan so I think I'll look for a good 10k improver plan and try get my time down, any recommendations very gratefully received :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    kittyclaws wrote: »
    I'll look for a good 10k improver plan and try get my time down, any recommendations very gratefully received :)

    Graduate plans courtesy of Myles Splitz will be available in a couple of weeks, after Jingle Bells / alternative 5K.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭aquinn


    RasTa wrote: »
    Got the tights on for this run

    Tights alone, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

    Shorts over tights, ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    I'm declaring an amnesty ! All the (running-related ;)) terms you always wanted to know about but were afraid to ask. Well now's your chance, ask now or forever hold your peace (not really, but it would be very handy if we could get this all answered in one place!). So you have 24 hours, then I'll post a reply.
    I'll get the ball rolling.....(please quote the most recent reply to this post, delete the quote marks and add in your own question so we have one post with all the questions, thanks)

    1. What are strides and why should I do them ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 959 ✭✭✭kin9pin


    aquinn wrote: »
    Tights alone, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

    Shorts over tights, ok.

    Couldn't agree more! Some things just can't be unseen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    aquinn wrote: »
    Tights alone, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

    Shorts over tights, ok.

    Oh there was shorts on too.

    Hands was the last thing to warm up, I was already debating in the head what type of gloves I would need for this winter but after almost 3 miles the thoughts switched to gloves would not be needed.

    5.75m @ 8.27


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Neady83


    aquinn wrote: »
    Tights alone, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

    Shorts over tights, ok.
    kin9pin wrote: »
    Couldn't agree more! Some things just can't be unseen.

    For girls and boys or just for boys? I don't wear shorts over my 2XU compression tights :o


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 959 ✭✭✭kin9pin


    Neady83 wrote: »
    For girls and boys or just for boys? I don't wear shorts over my 2XU compression tights :o

    I was thinking just the boys. I still try to convince my cycling brother that he isn't a pretty sight without shorts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Don't know what the marathon is after doing to me. I did 5 miles at a fairly handy pace yesterday and was in a heap by the end of it. It's like I've gone back in time 12 months. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    aquinn wrote: »
    Tights alone, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

    Shorts over tights, ok.

    Laughed when I read this! Agree completely. There was a lad in the HM this year wearing brown tights with no shorts :eek: I made it my business to get past ASAP. Come to think of it, maybe that's why I left Murph_D behind!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭tony1980


    Hey All, apologies for not posting in here yet, been busy buying a house :-) will post answers to the questions soon. Took two weeks off, legs felt fine, I just decided to take it easy but really missing the running now so will start easing myself back in now. The weather seems worse than last Nov when I had just started running so I am not looking forward to going out in this but sure, it has to be done!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭Safrongirl


    OK Bunnygirl - another on my plan was Drills ?
    So what is a drill in running terms ? for example it had 7 drills + 3 strides - 25 seconds each
    No idea what that means


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭spaceylou


    Have quoted BungyGirl's list and added Safrongirl's questions so that it does get lost, as well as my own.


    1. What are strides and why should I do them ?
    2. What is a drill in running terms? For example plan had 7 drills + 3 strides - 25 seconds each.
    3. What are the differences between tempo run; lactate threshold run; aerobic run? Or are they similar just different plans use different terms?

    merci beaucoup.

    And folk don't forget BG's instructions: "please quote the most recent reply to this post, delete the quote marks and add in your own question so we have one post with all the questions, thanks"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Don't know what the marathon is after doing to me. I did 5 miles at a fairly handy pace yesterday and was in a heap by the end of it. It's like I've gone back in time 12 months. :rolleyes:

    Any chance you were going too fast ? (You can be honest, this is a safe environment :)) . How was your perceived effort during the run ? What was the pace like compared to your pre-marathon easy runs ?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,492 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    1. What are strides and why should I do them ?
    2. What is a drill in running terms? For example plan had 7 drills + 3 strides - 25 seconds each.
    3. What are the differences between tempo run; lactate threshold run; aerobic run? Or are they similar just different plans use different terms?
    4. What is a split?
    5. Is there a dictionary for running lingo like quads, etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Great questions, keep 'em coming.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    I got out for 4 easy miles this evening , no complaint from my back during the run , I had forgotten how enjoyable running in the cold is once you get going. Was like an onion going out tonight will drop a layer next time.


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