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FPL Chips / Wildcard Strategy 2016/17
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It was my plan last year. Readjusted it with thehectic schedule. Did not work. But wouldn't have worked anyway. Problem is when most teams have nothing to play for, which was roughly the case last year, whatever hard we try we fail...
This chip is a complete roulette. Total luck addition to the game. They should remove it. The only useful use I see is when you have an injury crisis at the back. But a well balanced -4 could turn out much better as we experience every GW.
This is the thing, generally when you have a "healthy"
approach to hits and defensive disaster presents an opportunity.
GW38 this year has some potentially nice match ups, depending on the context at the time, think Chelsea closing out the title against relegated Sunderland for example.
I think if I work towards the fixtures and use the AOA to have an extra attacker from one of them it may be the best, and definitely the most fun way to use this pointless chip.0 -
This is the thing, generally when you have a "healthy" approach to hits and defensive disaster presents an opportunity.
GW38 this year has some potentially nice match ups, depending on the context at the time, think Chelsea closing out the title against relegated Sunderland for example.
I think if I work towards the fixtures and use the AOA to have an extra attacker from one of them it may be the best, and definitely the most fun way to use this pointless chip.
It's likely they'll have it won before that game though.0 -
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Let's use this GW22 Matchday Thread question to develop further my perception of it in here.Out of interest how did the bench boasters get on this week?
For me the BB (and to a lesser extent AOA) is not a 1 GW chip. Since most plan their team ahead for using the chips. So to be perfectly fair, you'd have to take into account the GWs around the use of the chip to assess its efficiency. I mean without the chips, you'd have certainly played very differently.
Personally, I got 11 pts from my bench. Heaton, Defoe, Holebas, Baines. Actually, just starting from here and listing these players makes little sense of a bench since I selected at least 2 of them (Baines & Defoe) for not being bench players for this very GW in particular. The other 2 were more "get someone cheap who will rotate from time to time and has a decent chance of a great return for BB GW".
11 pts look crap when GW1&2 respectively got me 25 & 24 pts on the bench.
But, I WCed last GW and got a massive 101 pts. It's a part of my BB since I selected most of my team accordingly.
Examples of how wrong and deceptive it can be to look at your BB over the sole GW you're playing it.-
Holebas 0 pointer. Defoe & Giroud 2 pointers.
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During my WC, I debated B'mouth def instead of Holebas. The best one of them is Smith. Got 6 pts at the week-end. But he returned 0 last GW. Holebas did the opposite and I precisely had kept him for his good fixture last GW hoping he'd provide attacking pts this GW. So "deuce" here
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Defoe & Giroud. £15.4m. 6+2 & 5+2. Obviously Kane returned much better. 17+5. But he was worth £11.0m. And there's no option upfront at £4.4m. If I had kept Costa whom I got in very late I'd have only increased this amount to £4.7m IIRC. Don't think there are any options I'd have been happy with for that price. And anyway Costa did not outscore any of these 2 significantly.
So, the only alternative was to save money from my midfield (Sanchez, Alli, Phillips, Pedro, Coutinho). I wanted 'Pool attacking cover and did not fancy any of their forwards so got a midfielder instead. Pb is I got Coutinho which makes this attacking 3-way plan fail. Stanislas would have been much better of course over the 2 GWs. He's the only one I debated so no point looking elsewhere.
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McAuley & Alli. Kept them both (actually got Alli for Eriksen) with a long-term view in mind. Brunt was doubtful during my WC week so could not make the sideway move. McAuley stayed on my bench last GW and returned above expectations this GW. Alli exactly matched Eriksen over the 2 GWs. And the only player with a favourable BB fixture who outscore him is Firmino whom I did not consider at all for some reason I don't understand myself :pac:.
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Pedro & Coutinho whom I precisely got in for BB purpose. Plan was to bench Coutinho last GW and hope for a masterclass this week-end. Pedro was there because of the Costa situation and plan was to reassess now before Chelsea tougher run of 2/3 fixtures. Pedro returned great over the 2 games so despite his 3 pointer yesterday I count him as a great success. Coutinho was the disaster.
[*]I could go on like that. Phillips in the first category. Disappointing. Giroud & Defoe in the second. Decent.
I'm now left with a strong defense, Alonso Baines with McAuley Chambers Holebas to rotate. I could add Phillips to the rotation depending on fixtures.
Pedro, Giroud & Defoe situations to be assessed as planned. Coutinho is the spanner in the works.
So far, my BB is successful but my BB is not my 11 extra points of GW22. It's part of a mid-term plan. It includes my gigantic score last GW and will include my next 2/3 GWs scores. And I believe this applies to everyone. Or, you'd have to play your BB either without any planning or inconsciously on a random GW. If someone had done it for me for either GW1 or 2, I could have said I gained 25/24 pts thanks to BB. For GW 10 & 11 I'd have added the grand total of 0 point to my scores. But the way I played it, summarising it on the 11 pts I added to my GW22 score is only the visible part of the iceberg.
And I'd say this also applies to the AOA that most of us play when we think we have a strong enough front 8. I played mine in a week where I did not want to use a transfer or -4 for a def I wanted to keep long-term but was either suspended or injured for that very GW. I got no benefit from it since one of my doubtful def did eventually play and got the same return than my 5th mid. C'est la vie.
TC is different since it doesn't require any large planning. In general, you go for a premium candidate over a DGW. In general too you do not go for Lukaku :pac:.
Overall though, I don't like what these chips bring to the game. They're just a bunch of distracting gadgets.0 -
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Let's use this GW22 Matchday Thread question to develop further my perception of it in here.
For me the BB (and to a lesser extent AOA) is not a 1 GW chip. Since most plan their team ahead for using the chips. So to be perfectly fair, you'd have to take into account the GWs around the use of the chip to assess its efficiency. I mean without the chips, you'd have certainly played very differently.
Personally, I got 11 pts from my bench. Heaton, Defoe, Holebas, Baines.
11 pts look crap when GW1&2 respectively got me 25 & 24 pts on the bench.
But, I WCed last GW and got a massive 101 pts. It's a part of my BB since I selected most of my team accordingly.
Examples of how wrong and deceptive it can be to look at your BB over the sole GW you're playing it.-
Holebas 0 pointer. Defoe & Giroud 2 pointers.
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During my WC, I debated B'mouth def instead of Holebas. The best one of them is Smith. Got 6 pts at the week-end. But he returned 0 last GW. Holebas did the opposite and I precisely had kept him for his good fixture last GW hoping he'd provide attacking pts this GW. So "deuce" here
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Defoe & Giroud. £15.4m. 6+2 & 5+2. Obviously Kane returned much better. 17+5. But he was worth £11.0m. And there's no option upfront at £4.4m. If I had kept Costa whom I got in very late I'd have only increased this amount to £4.7m IIRC. Don't think there are any options I'd have been happy with for that price. And anyway Costa did not outscore any of these 2 significantly.
So, the only alternative was to save money from my midfield (Sanchez, Alli, Phillips, Pedro, Coutinho). I wanted 'Pool attacking cover and did not fancy any of their forwards so got a midfielder instead. Pb is I got Coutinho which makes this attacking 3-way plan fail. Stanislas would have been much better of course over the 2 GWs. He's the only one I debated so no point looking elsewhere.
[*]Now 2 other "opposite" examples...-
McAuley & Alli. Kept them both (actually got Alli for Eriksen) with a long-term view in mind. Brunt was doubtful during my WC week so could not make the sideway move. McAuley stayed on my bench last GW and returned above expectations this GW. Alli exactly matched Eriksen over the 2 GWs. And the only player with a favourbale BB fixture who outscore him is Firmino whom I did not consider at all for some reason I don't understand myself :pac:.
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Pedro & Coutinho whom I precisely got in for BB purpose. Plan was to bench Coutinho last GW and hope for a masterclass this week-end. Pedro was there because of the Costa situation and plan was to reassess now before Chelsea tougher run of 2/3 fixtures. Pedro returned great over the 2 games so despite his 3 pointer yesterday I count him as a great success. Coutinho was the disaster.
[*]I could go on like that. Phillips in the first category. Disappointing. Giroud & Defoe in the second. Decent.
I'm now left with a strong defense, Alonso Baines with McAuley Chambers Holebas to rotate. I could add Phillips to the rotation depending on fixtures.
Pedro, Giroud & Defoe situations to be assessed as planned. Coutinho is the spanner in the works.
So far, my BB is successful but my BB is not my 11 extra points of GW22. It's part of a mid-term plan. It includes my gigantic score last GW and will include my next 2/3 GWs scores. And I believe this applies to everyone. Or, you'd have to play your BB either without any planning or inconsciously on a random GW. If someone had done it for me for either GW1 or 2, I could have said I gained 25/24 pts thanks to BB. For GW 10 & 11 I'd have added the grand total of 0 point to my scores. But the way I played it, summarising it on the 11 pts I added to my GW22 score is only the visible part of the iceberg.
And I'd say this also applies to the AOA that most of us play when we think we have a strong enough front 8. I played mine in a week where I did not want to use a transfer or -4 for a def I wanted to keep long-term but was either suspended or injured for that very GW. I got no benefit from it since one of my doubtful def did eventually play and got the same return than my 5th mid. C'est la vie.
TC is different since it doesn't require any large planning. In general, you go for a premium candidate over a DGW. In general too you do not go for Lukaku :pac:.
Overall though, I don't like what these chips bring to the game. They're just a bunch of distracting gadgets.
Agree with what you are saying and its why I dispute the conventional wildcard before a dgw and then BB being the only strategy. I've been banging this drum a long time and its why I'd in no way hesitate to play an early wildcard or bb in a sgw. I think deep down a lot of people like to have the so called boost in your rankings at the end when in reality it makes no difference when you get the boost. In particular if your not happy with your team your crazy to wait till the end.0 -
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If I still had mine I'd eitherStill have all my chips, must look into using my WC at least.
This GW or wait until the internationals?
1. Try and get as many players for GW28 huge blank (without taking too many hits if possible) and WC right after to readjust my team ;
2. Play it for the late DGW (maybe even waiting for THE DGW itself - the WC 1 GW before the BB GW was a russian roulette last year so even 1 GW is too much an aniticpation I'd say).
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But if you feel you need to WC before that, then WC. Waiting and planning for the perfect late WC is a kinda deceptive illusion. 'Cause if your team isn't in great shape you'll need an absolute perfect WC to recover from all you'd have lost before it.0 -
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That's right.ArmaniJeanss wrote: »Many of the 'wrong' teams, Liverpool in particular, had DGWs last year. And the teams we needed to have a DGW like Leicester and Spurs didn't.
At this stage it looks likely to be a more favourable set of teams, so should be much less of a 'Russian Roulette'. Last season could ultimately become the exception.
But, at this rhythm, Chelsea may well have the title secured by then. On the contrary, Liverpool may be out of the game for CL spot. Who knows, the positions might be more sealed than we'd like them to be.
For what I can remember my best late DGWs were mainly made of secondary teams players, e.g. I remember Dempsey at Fulham being a super hero for me (particularly considering his fairly low ownership).
Now, let's hope for City, Spurs, Arsenal & MU fighting for a CL spot over a DGW. Then it'll be game on
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My main point though regarding this second WC and I realise I did not express it well enough is not to be overly focused on plannig (too much) ahead. If you need to WC before the blanks and DGWs, just do it. And you'll worry about them when the time'll come.0
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