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Robeman · 18-10-2016 01:16PM

Welding Rod wrote: »

Would be a good idea for ICBF to capture the data from all marts and put it in the website.

Even better but will probably take 10 years for this to happen.

orm0nd · 18-10-2016 01:37PM

jimini0 wrote: »

Any current prices for dry cows? Aax 600kg+

nenagh to day

660 kgs ..700euro
730 kgs .. 1180 euro
780kgs .. 1280 euro

Willfarman · 18-10-2016 01:55PM

Welding Rod wrote: »

So you pay more for having them assembled, collected, deliverd to SE.

Now you know how we feel in the west when we have to pay 25 for a bale of middeling straw.

I don't envy ye at all!

FeelTheBern · 18-10-2016 03:12PM

valtra2 wrote: »

Just from mart
450 kg 1090
505kg 1080
530kg 1185
540 kg 1135
445kg 1145
Jan Feb 16 calf's.

Phenomenal weights for Jan/Feb 16 calves. Must be good shape too for those prices.

Bass Reeves · 18-10-2016 05:49PM

Willfarman wrote: »

Some of them will see a sales ring again in the south east I'm sure.

Na they won't go to the South east. Killmallock is much nearer and on the following Monday.

jimini0 · 18-10-2016 06:28PM

orm0nd wrote: »

nenagh to day

660 kgs ..700euro
730 kgs .. 1180 euro
780kgs .. 1280 euro

Mine would be the around the 660kg i hope. Neighbour had them booked into mart but got a **** pen number so cancelled. There is a man in balla that buys cows for finishing I might give him a ring see what he is paying

valtra2 · 18-10-2016 06:58PM

FeelTheBern wrote: »

Phenomenal weights for Jan/Feb 16 calves. Must be good shape too for those prices.

Top 5 bulls have another 5 then it's into the plain ones that's when you know how bad things are.

Dozer1 · 18-10-2016 07:04PM

heading to castleisland with heifers tomorrow, dreading it. They're nice 1 1/2 to 2 year olds mostly lim and CH

Danzy · 18-10-2016 07:07PM

Hearing that there is good value in Heifers at the moment, from this side of the ring anyway.

Might be an idea to have cattle finished before October next year if what looks like happening via numbers comes to pass.

FeelTheBern · 18-10-2016 07:57PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

heading to castleisland with heifers tomorrow, dreading it. They're nice 1 1/2 to 2 year olds mostly lim and CH

Bringing out my bull weanlings tomorrow too and similar sense of dread tonight. Between loading and pen numbers and weights and then prices - I'd take any job other than going to a mart with cattle. Think you can live in a bit of a dream world farming most of year but it's when you go to mart or factory with cattle that reality of the current situation hits home..

Muckit · 18-10-2016 08:27PM

Tune into roscommon mart live streaming there now to get an idea of prices...

larthehar · 18-10-2016 09:51PM

Muckit wrote: »

Tune into roscommon mart live streaming there now to get an idea of prices...

Super job!
Any schedules of when all the live streams are on?!

restive · 19-10-2016 02:14PM

If I was to looking to finish Bullock's next August what weight Bullock should I be buying in now?

Cavanjack · 19-10-2016 02:50PM

restive wrote: »

If I was to looking to finish Bullock's next August what weight Bullock should I be buying in now?

Bought black limo bullocks 450kg this time last year.killed two weeks ago at 390kg dead average. Stored over the winter and just a bit of meal for the last 6-8 weeks.

Willfarman · 19-10-2016 02:54PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Bought black limo bullocks 450kg this time last year.killed two weeks ago at 390kg dead average. Stored over the winter and just a bit of meal for the last 6-8 weeks.

You done them well. Any money made?

Cavanjack · 19-10-2016 03:36PM

Willfarman wrote: »

You done them well. Any money made?

Bought them for 1k avg sold for €1440 avg. Take €70 of meal off that to finish, whatever silage they ate (wouldn't know the true cost of silage when fertilizer etc is calculated I'm sure somebody here could tell me) for a 5 month winter, 6 months grazing (no fertilizer as low in stock), dosing, fixed costs etc.. Would I have €150 out of them?

Welding Rod · 19-10-2016 05:52PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Willfarman wrote: »

You done them well. Any money made?

Bought them for 1k avg sold for 1440 avg. Take 70 of meal off that to finish, whatever silage they ate (wouldn't know the true cost of silage when fertilizer etc is calculated I'm sure somebody here could tell me) for a 5 month winter, 6 months grazing (no fertilizer as low in stock), dosing, fixed costs etc.. Would I have 150 out of them?

You bought for 450 and sold for 1440.
990 over your purchase price.
70 for meal. No fertiliser.
Say MAX 11 bales silage @ 25 bale all in.
275.
That's total of 345. Bit of vetinary stuff on top. You didn't even have to pay for a tag!!

Before fixed costs you have north of 600 margin per head.

That nice man who sold you black lims 450 at 450kg. I'd be keeping in with him if I was you.

White Clover · 19-10-2016 05:56PM

Welding Rod wrote: »

You bought for 450 and sold for 1440.
990 over your purchase price.
70 for meal. No fertiliser.
Say MAX 11 bales silage @ 25 bale all in.
275.
That's total of 345. Bit of vetinary stuff on top. You didn't even have to pay for a tag!!

Before fixed costs you have north of 600 margin per head.

That nice man who sold you black lims 450 at 450kg. I'd be keeping in with him if I was you.

You're getting a bit carried away there!! He bought them for an average of €1000 each and sold them for €1440. its possible he can't afford to retire just yet!!

Cavanjack · 19-10-2016 05:57PM

Welding Rod wrote: »

You bought for 450 and sold for 1440.
990 over your purchase price.
70 for meal. No fertiliser.
Say MAX 11 bales silage @ 25 bale all in.
275.
That's total of 345. Bit of vetinary stuff on top. You didn't even have to pay for a tag!!

Before fixed costs you have north of 600 margin per head.

That nice man who sold you black lims 450 at 450kg. I'd be keeping in with him if I was you.

i wish! They weighed 450kg. I paid €1000 euro for them.

Bass Reeves · 19-10-2016 06:10PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Bought them for 1k avg sold for €1440 avg. Take €70 of meal off that to finish, whatever silage they ate (wouldn't know the true cost of silage when fertilizer etc is calculated I'm sure somebody here could tell me) for a 5 month winter, 6 months grazing (no fertilizer as low in stock), dosing, fixed costs etc.. Would I have €150 out of them?

I presume that they were not suckler stock as they only averaged 3.7/kg which was more or less the base price at present this year. If they were O+ cattle they weighted about 750 at slaughter. Fairly good weight gain of 0.85kg's/day over the whole year depending on land quality. I always include a grazing charge as between one year and the next you still have to replace P&K even if you do not do it this year you will have to replace it down the line..

Wintering costs on silage alone would be 1-1.4/day depending on quality and DM of silage. About 20 cattle that age will go through a bale a day of 25-28%DM silage and if they were hungry stores a tad more. In real terms you had about 40-100 euro out of them.

Welding Rod · 19-10-2016 06:10PM

Oh, my apologies. Read that as 1 kg.
jayzuz, that puts a different spin on it, doesn't it.

Cavanjack · 19-10-2016 06:26PM

Welding Rod wrote: »

Oh, my apologies. Read that as 1 kg.
jayzuz, that puts a different spin on it, doesn't it.

Sound. Yeah and they were cheapish at the time. Luckily the full time job pays the bills.

Cavanjack · 19-10-2016 06:40PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I presume that they were not suckler stock as they only averaged 3.7/kg which was more or less the base price at present this year. If they were O+ cattle they weighted about 750 at slaughter. Fairly good weight gain of 0.85kg's/day over the whole year depending on land quality. I always include a grazing charge as between one year and the next you still have to replace P&K even if you do not do it this year you will have to replace it down the line..

Wintering costs on silage alone would be 1-1.4/day depending on quality and DM of silage. About 20 cattle that age will go through a bale a day of 25-28%DM silage and if they were hungry stores a tad more. In real terms you had about 40-100 euro out of them.

Yeah they would have been dairy breed but mostly r's. If I bought a few gates or done a bit of fencing never mind put up a shed or silage pit it wouldn't be long getting rid of whatever they left.
Have only a few pens of cattle to house to finish before Christmas. Undecided weather to buy anything this back end espiceally after looking at your figures over this last few days

Dozer1 · 19-10-2016 07:29PM

well sold my heifers anyway, good few bidders so did ok
454kg 1000 lm 5*
470kg 850 he
560kg 1165 lm 4*
382kg 740 lm
472kg 960 ch
436kg 990 ch
436kg 755 grey ch
506kg 1105 lm
416kg 925 lm
478kg 990 ch
444kg 965 sim 5*
466kg 835 he
440kg 995 aa (really a ch)
430 850 aa
420kg 940 ch
478kg 820 lm

Bass Reeves · 19-10-2016 07:39PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

well sold my heifers anyway, good few bidders so did ok
454kg 1000 lm 5*
470kg 850 he
560kg 1165 lm 4*
382kg 740 lm
472kg 960 ch
436kg 990 ch
436kg 755 grey ch
506kg 1105 lm
416kg 925 lm
478kg 990 ch
444kg 965 sim 5*
466kg 835 he
440kg 995 aa (really a ch)
430 850 aa
420kg 940 ch
478kg 820 lm

There might be a twist in the two HE heifers, the grey charley and the Lm at the end.

Dozer1 · 19-10-2016 07:55PM

Doubt it bar the grey ch
Both he had plenty dairy influence and 1 was 14
The lm at the end was butty and 14 born bought her this day last year 276kg 545 so didn't make me rich either. All got only silage and a shake of ration last winter and grass only from March

Bass Reeves · 19-10-2016 08:20PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

Doubt it bar the grey ch
Both he had plenty dairy influence and 1 was 14
The lm at the end was butty and 14 born bought her this day last year 276kg 545 so didn't make me rich either. All got only silage and a shake of ration last winter and grass only from March

For the buyers there may be a twist in them four. They are the type of heifers that could be finished before end of January. If you put 80-90kgs on them and they killed 280kgs DW. You would want the post January price/kg for them to average 4.05 including HE premium on the herefords and all to make the QA.

charolais0153 · 19-10-2016 08:28PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

well sold my heifers anyway, good few bidders so did ok
454kg 1000 lm 5*
470kg 850 he
560kg 1165 lm 4*
382kg 740 lm
472kg 960 ch
436kg 990 ch
436kg 755 grey ch
506kg 1105 lm
416kg 925 lm
478kg 990 ch
444kg 965 sim 5*
466kg 835 he
440kg 995 aa (really a ch)
430 850 aa
420kg 940 ch
478kg 820 lm

480x.52=250kg dead weight. 3.75 base +12c for bb.=965 euro. If she was fat enough which I suspect if she was butty.

Bass Reeves · 19-10-2016 09:16PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

480x.52=250kg dead weight. 3.75 base +12c for bb.=965 euro. If she was fat enough which I suspect if she was butty.

She want to be well fat doubt if she would kill 52% at that weight more likely 50% or less. She would still have been worth a gamble in the factory if you were QA. If she was O=2+ she would have prices ad below.

240 X 3.63 (3.75 -0.24 +0.12)=871.

A butcher would have been the best option and more than likely bought her. He have paid 3.8 flat for her I imagine.

Willfarman · 19-10-2016 09:20PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

She want to be well fat doubt if she would kill 52% at that weight more likely 50% or less. She would still have been worth a gamble in the factory if you were QA. If she was O=2+ she would have prices ad below.

240 X 3.63 (3.75 -0.24 +0.12)=871.

A butcher would have been the best option and more than likely bought her. He have paid 3.8 flat for her I imagine.

I think they have to be a minimum carcass of 280kg for to get qa.

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