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I give my store away today. A CH heifer id say R grade. 504kg and all I could get was 850 stg (945euro)

I have 11 AA heifers out of dairy cows....would guess the cows were holstein rather than B fresian.... plain enough heifers ranging from 340 to 415 kg what are there worth or is there any buyers for these type of cattle

Sold a few stores yday, top quality ones mad ok money..
CH white home bred, no moves QA - 540kg - €1280
CH grey home bred, no moves QA - 590kg - €1300
CH white home bred, no moves QA - 510kg - €1220

Brought home the rest.. only making approx 2.18/kg..

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

They under 30mts?

Just looking at the numbers there, 24 to go of which 16 are over and 8 under, all FR. I'll leave the others out for now.

Willfarman wrote: »

I suppose 900 to maybe 1200 would be the run of friesians that weight range. Depends on type age and flesh.

I was going to finish them myself but thinking about selling live, maybe mart or ex yard sold per kg. So you're saying around the €1.7/kg max then.

Is it just me or are mart reports worse than useless. Can they just not tell it as it is namely that prices are on the floor. Reading the weekly reports of various marts you would think that everything was rosy in the market except for "plainer weanlings" which are a bit harder to sell.

They then normally give a few prices which are undoubtedly the best prices achieved for the whole day and were probably due to something exceptional (e.g. an exceptional animal, two dealers falling out or a farmer whose pride was more important than profit once he started bidding).

This does nobody any good. Both sellers and buyers need to know the reality of the market to make correct decisions. The only way they are going to get it is by physically visiting the mart. With all the technology in use it should be easy to report €\kilo by weight band, by breed etc etc not just in a managers report for local paper \ web page but also in real time in mart rings. This might also help stop the bull**** of very low opening bids which slows down whole sales process. If AA weanlings making €2.2 \ kilo average and lowest 1.90 then auctioneer can refuse to sell animal if does not open at say 1.8.

In addition practice of selling \ buying groups of cattle should be encouraged through lower commissions to save everybody time at the mart.

The other practice that drives me mad is when people talk about "making €xx with their weight". This was quaint when it started in the days of €1 euro a kilo but now with everything above €2 it is just plain daft. Will people still be talking like this in €50 years when cattle are €10 per kilo. I doubt if this practice exists anywhere else in world.

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Marts are very slow to report lower prices when publishing there prices. This is partly due to being in competition with other marts. If you publish bad prices and the mart down the road publishes only there best prices you can guess which mart the farmers sends his cattle to sell in.

The low starting bid in marts is just a market starting point. Usually it allows dealers to sort out who is interested in the animal and if you friend is bidding it allows one of you to pull out. It really has nothing to do with the market price and value of the cattle. Allowing auctioneers to refuse bids would not allow the market to fall in price like is happening at present. Lots of cattle would go home unsold.

I agree that groups of cattles hould be discounted however lads selling suckler acttle as weanlings want them sold singly or in doubles at most as different size/weight weanlings go to different markets. Some marts do discount on larger lots but in general an extra 5 euro in a bid will cover the costs. Because of this farmers will decide what way they want there cattle auctioned.

I agree entirely about lads talking about what cattle made with there weight. Price/kg is the usual tool most buyers use now. However it very weight influenced. A lighter weanling 200kg might make nearly 3/kg while a heavier one might styrucle to make 2.2/kg neither are comparable animals.

What annoys me is lads selling 20 cattle out of a yard and expecting above the highest price achieved at the mart for these type of cattle the previous day.

Often had to leave yards and not give a bid as lads think they're cattle are worth more at home for som reason, I've often explained your not out mart fees or transport but doesn't register, seen a lad refuse €680 from me once across a bunch of cattle said they'd do better in mart, they were in mart 2 weeks later and made €700 so he wasn't made up with the extra after fees and transport

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Killed a bunch of plain friesian bullocks this morning were booked in since last week all about 32/33 months. Base was 3.70/kg was told that they have pulled it by 5c/kg this morning so 3.65 for rest of week.

P+ 341.21kgs 1160.11
P+ 353.01 kgs 1200.23
P= 330.91kgs 1105.24
O= 373.45kgs 1314.54
O= 330.99 kgs 1204.80 **
O- 361.11kgs 1249.44

** this lads was under 30 months a late April calf I taught he might grade so I had gambled letting him off with the rest of them

They averaged just a bit over 1200 before stoppages and averaged just shy of 350kgs. They were FS's 3.

Did they leave u a few quid bass?

Robeman wrote: »

Is it just me or are mart reports worse than useless. Can they just not tell it as it is namely that prices are on the floor. Reading the weekly reports of various marts you would think that everything was rosy in the market except for "plainer weanlings" which are a bit harder to sell.

They then normally give a few prices which are undoubtedly the best prices achieved for the whole day and were probably due to something exceptional (e.g. an exceptional animal, two dealers falling out or a farmer whose pride was more important than profit once he started bidding).

This does nobody any good. Both sellers and buyers need to know the reality of the market to make correct decisions. The only way they are going to get it is by physically visiting the mart. With all the technology in use it should be easy to report €\kilo by weight band, by breed etc etc not just in a managers report for local paper \ web page but also in real time in mart rings. This might also help stop the bull**** of very low opening bids which slows down whole sales process. If AA weanlings making €2.2 \ kilo average and lowest 1.90 then auctioneer can refuse to sell animal if does not open at say 1.8.

In addition practice of selling \ buying groups of cattle should be encouraged through lower commissions to save everybody time at the mart.

The other practice that drives me mad is when people talk about "making €xx with their weight". This was quaint when it started in the days of €1 euro a kilo but now with everything above €2 it is just plain daft. Will people still be talking like this in €50 years when cattle are €10 per kilo. I doubt if this practice exists anywhere else in world.

What I think you want

http://www.midtippmart.com/data/marts/latest_cattle_prices_october_10th_latest_cattle_prices_101016_1476119262.pdf

Tipp essentially when it comes to farming like hurling we are the Premier County.

Matt reports a joke other than mid tipp report. Look at the back of the journal, average price for 350kg weanling bull is €800. All you see on the mart reports online is the lads making 1100 and 1200