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locky76 · 13-10-2016 05:35AM

amacca wrote: »

Midlands, sold most in late June...wasn't over happy with the prices then either. poorer animals making close to or just over 1k, better quality up to 1200/1300.....weights ranging from 520kg up to 630kg

3.70kg seems to be the run of it in the factory but its been so long since I've went near one I don't know how to assess within what range the price for animals sent in would turn out to be.

wouldn't like to be depending on farming for a living at the moment at the scale I'm at.

**** it, Ill hold on to them for another while..., don't like giving them away and thats what I feel Id be doing right now......I have some shed space if the worst comes to the worst...might show them die hard over the christmas, tell the auctioneer they are bulmers cattle when they are being sold.

Get the finger out and join Bord Bia asap, you should be sorted for a preXmas finish, it would be a shame to have to sell them in the mart or the sell them to the factory as non assured...

locky76 · 13-10-2016 05:37AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I presuming that the heavier will hit 670 LW and there will be a base price of 3.9 pre Christmas. The lighter ones will hit that weight by mid January.

Mind you I could be wrong.

I think you will be wrong unfortunately Bass, I gave last year killing up to Xmas week waiting for a rise and when it came it was minimal... :-(

Who2 · 13-10-2016 07:21AM

blue5000 wrote: »

Would that be the shed where the lads doing the last check of the cattle at night time get 0-60 mph in the jeep down the feed passage?

He's putting up a shed 57 bays long, double pens back to back with an existing one, so you can work the numbers from there.

adne · 13-10-2016 08:06AM

Who2 wrote: »

He's putting up a shed 57 bays long, double pens back to back with an existing one, so you can work the numbers from there.

I wonder is he getting tam2 40% grant on it

Bass Reeves · 13-10-2016 09:20AM

locky76 wrote: »

I think you will be wrong unfortunately Bass, I gave last year killing up to Xmas week waiting for a rise and when it came it was minimal... :-(

I think it will be ok this year as numbers may well be tighter than last year. Last year you finishers thinking they were Larry's best friend. He gave them a guaranteed 4.2/kg for August/September and October while the rest of us got 3.9-4/kg. They had loads of money in there pockets and bought cattle for housing and to slaughter at Christmas. They presumed that the price would be 4.2/kg it was 3.9/kg. Nobody filling sheds like that this year. I think there will be a lot of 4/kg around for Christmass.

blue5000 · 13-10-2016 10:48AM

Hard one to judge. Larry is killing under finished cattle now to depress the factory price.

Does this mean he'll be short of cattle to kill in 2 months?

But,
the first of the surplus fr bulls from spring 2015 will be coming on stream after a second summer at grass around xmas. They were housed at the end of august, the steers will come on stream in feb-march, or maybe some will go to grass. There wouldn't have been a lot of them killed at u16 months last june.

Larry doesn't take too many bites out of stone walls. The only peaks and troughs in the market from now on will be dictated by the weather. Just my €0.02. Not to talk about brexit and weaker sterling.

Muckit · 13-10-2016 10:58AM

Yesterdays main indo

mf240 · 13-10-2016 11:01AM

I think your as well off to keep them moving once their fit.

Fair expensive keeping big cattle from now on. If one goes over fat you get cleaned all together.

kk.man · 13-10-2016 12:15PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Hard one to judge. Larry is killing under finished cattle now to depress the factory price.

Does this mean he'll be short of cattle to kill in 2 months?

But,
the first of the surplus fr bulls from spring 2015 will be coming on stream after a second summer at grass around xmas. They were housed at the end of august, the steers will come on stream in feb-march, or maybe some will go to grass. There wouldn't have been a lot of them killed at u16 months last june.

Larry doesn't take too many bites out of stone walls. The only peaks and troughs in the market from now on will be dictated by the weather. Just my €0.02. Not to talk about brexit and weaker sterling.

I'd say they calculated that by finishing them they would make a loss...so replace them with cheaper cattle which is more realistic to projected finish price

Bass Reeves · 13-10-2016 02:48PM

mf240 wrote: »

I think your as well off to keep them moving once their fit.

Fair expensive keeping big cattle from now on. If one goes over fat you get cleaned all together.

I would not consider 550-600kg cattle finished

Muckit · 13-10-2016 03:12PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Can you access a good 13-14% ration. Keep away from barley, a mix of maize, soya wheat and hulls costing 230/ton.

Why keep away from barley? Poor quality? Soya hulls only a 'filler' l always thought

charolais0153 · 13-10-2016 03:51PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I would not consider 550-600kg cattle finished

Angus heifers?

Bass Reeves · 13-10-2016 10:26PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Hard one to judge. Larry is killing under finished cattle now to depress the factory price.

Does this mean he'll be short of cattle to kill in 2 months?

But,
the first of the surplus fr bulls from spring 2015 will be coming on stream after a second summer at grass around xmas. They were housed at the end of august, the steers will come on stream in feb-march, or maybe some will go to grass. There wouldn't have been a lot of them killed at u16 months last june.

Larry doesn't take too many bites out of stone walls. The only peaks and troughs in the market from now on will be dictated by the weather. Just my €0.02. Not to talk about brexit and weaker sterling.

Biggest issue at present is who will finish cattle this winter. Very strong store price at present. You would be off your rocker to buy cattle to finish this winter at present prices.

Muckit wrote: »

Why keep away from barley? Poor quality? Soya hulls only a 'filler' l always thought

Quality of barley rhis year is very poor. No hulls are not a filler by themselves they have an ME of nearly 12, good barley is an ME of 13. they are an excellent feed at grass as they slow the rumen down.

charolais0153 wrote: »

Angus heifers?

yes AA heifers and you can say the same for most but amacca was talking about HE bullocks

CloughCasey1 · 13-10-2016 10:32PM

Id hope to have a few hex ready to finish by mid dec. If weather holds i will keep them out as long as possible as we have good ground. Will start to up meal slowly upto 6kg by then. They will be 21-22mts by then.

Muckit · 14-10-2016 06:11PM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Id hope to have a few hex ready to finish by mid dec. If weather holds i will keep them out as long as possible as we have good ground. Will start to up meal slowly upto 6kg by then. They will be 21-22mts by then.

Will that pay you this year? Would you not consider getting them in in a fortnights time, getting them back to grass next March and killing next June?

leg wax · 14-10-2016 06:40PM

sale going on late in roscommon

limo_100 · 14-10-2016 06:47PM

leg wax wrote: »

sale going on late in roscommon

store heifers are a great trade there 2nite

patsy_mccabe · 14-10-2016 07:38PM

How long is Roscommon Mart live streaming?

Count Mondego · 14-10-2016 07:59PM

Nice trade in Gort last night. Picked up a few weanling heifers 280-340 kg for average of 2.40/kg. CH and LM.

jimini0 · 14-10-2016 08:31PM

Any current prices for dry cows? Aax 600kg+

orm0nd · 14-10-2016 08:50PM

jimini0 wrote: »

Any current prices for dry cows? Aax 600kg+

1.30 to 1.40 /kg

jimini0 · 14-10-2016 08:54PM

orm0nd wrote: »

1.30 to 1.40 /kg

Jesus that's awful bad. Might just keep her and get her in calf

tanko · 14-10-2016 09:06PM

jimini0 wrote: »

Jesus that's awful bad. Might just keep her and get her in calf

When did she last calve?

jimini0 · 14-10-2016 09:19PM

tanko wrote: »

When did she last calve?

April this year. Didn't come to heat unless we missed her. She is 9 so thought she better off at factory but at those prices i might as well try get her back in calf. Will borrow a neighbours bull

CloughCasey1 · 14-10-2016 09:20PM

Muckit wrote: »

Will that pay you this year? Would you not consider getting them in in a fortnights time, getting them back to grass next March and killing next June?

Tis as much as an experiment as anything. Will kill 8 and keep 7 april ones till May/june the way you are saying.☺

tanko · 14-10-2016 09:31PM

jimini0 wrote: »

April this year. Didn't come to heat unless we missed her. She is 9 so thought she better off at factory but at those prices i might as well try get her back in calf. Will borrow a neighbours bull

She's had more than enough time to go back in calf, even if she goes in calf now she'll be mud fat by the time she calves next year and she's not a young cow. Would you not finish her and buy an in calf heifer that'll calve next March?

jimini0 · 14-10-2016 09:42PM

tanko wrote: »

She's had more than enough time to go back in calf, even if she goes in calf now she'll be mud fat by the time she calves next year and she's not a young cow. Would you not finish her and buy an in calf heifer that'll calve next March?

Your dead right tanko thanks.
I don't have the time to fatten her so I will just sent her to the mart and take the hit.
Buy a nice in calf heifer.

simx · 15-10-2016 11:24AM

Sold some fr culls dry the summer 51 days ago, didn't sell one 620kg was getting €750 good frame of cow only warming up at that stage really, brought her home and injected her with bimectin sold today for €840 weighing 650kg no meal just threw over with a bunch of calves out of the way done 1.7kg adg since

Muckit · 15-10-2016 11:41AM

simx wrote: »

Sold some fr culls dry the summer 51 days ago, didn't sell one 620kg was getting €750 good frame of cow only warming up at that stage really, brought her home and injected her with bimectin sold today for €840 weighing 650kg no meal just threw over with a bunch of calves out of the way done 1.7kg adg since

I think your sums are wrong. 30kg wt gain in 51 days is 0.588 (say 0.6kg/day). That's not great.

Also bimectin has 66day withdrawal, but doubt she finished at that and lad that bought her will feed her on.

The extra €90 is a bonus, but it did have it's costs, dose, grass/fert, mart and haulage fees.

simx · 15-10-2016 12:35PM

Muckit wrote: »

I think your sums are wrong. 30kg wt gain in 51 days is 0.588 (say 0.6kg/day). That's not great.

Also bimectin has 66day withdrawal, but doubt she finished at that and lad that bought her will feed her on.

The extra €90 is a bonus, but it did have it's costs, dose, grass/fert, mart and haulage fees.

Yes actually your correct I done it arseways ha and I thinking this cow was great ha, bimectin was a cost alright but small enough cost, would of cost me the booking in fee in first mart €4 I think, I was going home with empty trailer anyway so wouldn't class that as a major cost, would of cost the same with or without her more or less, neighbour going to mart today brought her so that's a favour kind of thing, as for grass it's aftergrass that calves are on and aren't even going to get to graze out before housing, I know there all costs and I'm not saying it cost nothing to haul and keep her but better than selling for €760 today cos she was going anyway ha

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