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Trials of Osiris

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    #332
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users Posts: 45,008 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    1vs1 with a scout is never a good idea, not close.

    Hanging back with a Jade Rabbit or Scout from that type (Colovance) and taking out people from distance suits me so Scouts are my main weapon (then pulse rifle). In fast paced 3vs3 modes, wouldn't want to be relying on hitting 3 headshots close in, quick.


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    #333
    Hail 2 Da Chimp
    Registered Users Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    Well I 1v1'd against Mida a few times and lost, so I really don't think it's viable against Mida.
    I'd actually prefer my Colovances Duty to The Inward Lamp, as I really can't get my hear around Mida.


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    #334
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users Posts: 45,008 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »
    Well I 1v1'd against Mida a few times and lost, so I really don't think it's viable against Mida.
    I'd actually prefer my Colovances Duty to The Inward Lamp, as I really can't get my hear around Mida.

    Yeah, Mida and a Super'd Taloc are exceptions to the general viability of scouts, imo.


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    #335
    Generic Dreadhead
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    The Taloc is very hard to hit headshots with. It's got a tiny hitbox thingy


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    #336
    [Deleted User]
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    https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/731160830507520000

    Bungie announcing the banhammer having been dropped.


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    #337
    Hail 2 Da Chimp
    Registered Users Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    Deleted User wrote: »

    Bungie announcing the banhammer having been dropped.

    So that's why I've been losing so often and so consistently in Trials...


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    #338
    AdamD
    Registered Users Posts: 12,381 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »
    So that's why I've been losing so often and so consistently in Trials...

    :pac:


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    #339
    OptimusTractor
    Registered Users Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭OptimusTractor


    No trials this week lads. Issues surrounding clown cartridge on rocket launchers.


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    #340
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Good, we'll see even more top-tier sweaty players in Doubles so.

    Ugh.......


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    #341
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users Posts: 45,008 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Cormac... wrote: »
    Good, we'll see even more top-tier sweaty players in Doubles so.

    Ugh.......

    I won't #sh1tyELO


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    #342
    AdamD
    Registered Users Posts: 12,381 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Apparently:
    Snapshot is now the new intrinsic perk for adept trials weapons

    Ooooh I'm ready


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    #343
    Hail 2 Da Chimp
    Registered Users Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    AdamD wrote: »
    Apparently:



    Ooooh I'm ready

    That's a great perk / reward for an adept weapon but god damn I'm going to be salty when I'm sniped / get the jump on someone and am killed :pac:

    Edit: Salty as there's no way I'll be getting an adept weapon


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    #344
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Anyone doing Trials this weekend?


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    #345
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users Posts: 45,008 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Cormac... wrote: »
    Anyone doing Trials this weekend?

    Yeah, from about 11 tonight if there is any interest in dragging my weight. Probably some tomorrow and Sunday evening (if not raiding)

    Really want to give trials a go this season. Thinking warlock will be my main here.


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    #346
    PetKing
    Registered Users Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭PetKing


    Trials is interesting. Year 2 weapons and armour dropping from the gold packages. Got year 3 armour on the 5 wins. Assuming the new weapons on the 7. I can still grind for my Doctor :D


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    #347
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users Posts: 45,008 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Played this last night - matches were one sided one way or the other every time. won the first two 5-0. lost the next two 5-0. won the next 5-0, then lost 5-0 then lost 5-1. Got a new card and finished off the bounties with a 5-1 win.

    Got crappy boots and a crappy helmet from the run.


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    #348
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,136 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Didn't get near the xbox until last night so only got one good run all weekend. 7 wins before the mercy was used but then we lost three in a row. 369 arms, two boots(367 & 369 I think) and a 368 shotgun so not a bad haul at all.


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    #349
    Kimbot
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    So first game of Trials last night, expecting to get to play against same skill type players, first match they had approx 300 flawless between them, all 380+ with a range of 390 primaries, we got kicked around.
    Second match, same again. We then got put in with people around our levels and we kicked ass :D but only got 4 wins, got the year 2 helm out of my gold package so was happy with that :D


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    #350
    Kimbot
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    So just to expand on the above here are the stats from my card last night, it was me, JCD and Rossi playing.

    First Game: LOSS (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1845)
    Second Game: LOSS (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1184)
    Third Game: LOSS (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1584)
    Fourth Game: WIN (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1144)
    Fifth Game: WIN (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1033)
    Sixth Game: WIN (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 975)
    Seventh Game: LOSS (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1297)

    So overall it shows that when we get matches against similar skill level we can hold our own. Bungie would want to sort the matchmaking out though in fairness because going in on your first game and getting nuked just turns people away from the game mode.


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    #351
    gimli2112
    Registered Users Posts: 13,407 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Played some Trials this weekend. Can't remember how it went but think I rage quitted after three games. Could never get into trials.


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    #352
    jackrussel
    Registered Users Posts: 694 ✭✭✭jackrussel


    Ye probably know this already but I find that i/we seem to do better when the fireteam leader has lowest k/d, ELO of the group. (Which is usually me)


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    #353
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,431 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    Played some Trials this weekend. Can't remember how it went but think I rage quitted after three games. Could never get into trials.

    I went to check how you did, are you sure you played trials cos I dont see anything recent for trials?


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    #354
    syboit
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    jonnycivic wrote: »
    got the year 2 helm out of my gold package so was happy with that :D

    We got a few of the y2 stuff as drops after some games, but would expect for the silver/gold packages it should be all year 3 stuff!! Got the ghost shell myself from gold.


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    #355
    gimli2112
    Registered Users Posts: 13,407 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    I went to check how you did, are you sure you played trials cos I dont see anything recent for trials?



    Probably disastrous. In fact take it as a given.
    I definitely played 3 games 'cos I have the card with 1 win and a two losses. I'll screenshot it when I go home.


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    #356
    AdamD
    Registered Users Posts: 12,381 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    So just to expand on the above here are the stats from my card last night, it was me, JCD and Rossi playing.

    First Game: LOSS (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1845)
    Second Game: LOSS (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1184)
    Third Game: LOSS (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1584)
    Fourth Game: WIN (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1144)
    Fifth Game: WIN (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1033)
    Sixth Game: WIN (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 975)
    Seventh Game: LOSS (Our Average ELO was 1153 Vs theirs at 1297)

    So overall it shows that when we get matches against similar skill level we can hold our own. Bungie would want to sort the matchmaking out though in fairness because going in on your first game and getting nuked just turns people away from the game mode.
    The whole point of Trials matchmaking is that you play somebody on a similar number of wins to you. So despite their ELO etc. they were also starting a new card.

    Bringing full SBMM into Trials would destroy the game for so many people like regular crucible is largely ****ed for us.


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    #357
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users Posts: 45,008 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    AdamD wrote: »
    The whole point of Trials matchmaking is that you play somebody on a similar number of wins to you. So despite their ELO etc. they were also starting a new card.

    Bringing full SBMM into Trials would destroy the game for so many people like regular crucible is largely ****ed for us.

    hen you come up against a team in your third match on their 26th win in a row, after a total of 400+ flawless runs, and you have been once, it still feels kinda broken.


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    #358
    AdamD
    Registered Users Posts: 12,381 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Their 26th win in a row could still be their first of a new card. And keep in mind the odds of playing a team who've just won 26 games in a row is ridiculously low.

    Having easier matchmaking for some teams and more difficult for others with the same rewards would be broken.

    Apparently people have done analysis and there is an element of SBMM on top of the card based matchmaking too, which is annoying.


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    #359
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    hen you come up against a team in your third match on their 26th win in a row, after a total of 400+ flawless runs, and you have been once, it still feels kinda broken.

    I had a feeling you were going to bring up that team :P

    To be fair, I didn't comment on their stats until after we lost as I knew we were going to get hammered.
    All 3 of them 1,900 Elo, 2.0+ KDR, 400 combined flawless, 24 wins in a row.
    Jaysus we got murdered :pac:

    Their grenade throwing was seriously on point.

    That being said we found out fair share of $h!tehawks with 0.4KDR and 20% W/L ratio etc before we hit 5(?) wins


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    #360
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users Posts: 45,008 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Cormac... wrote: »
    I had a feeling you were going to bring up that team :P

    To be fair, I didn't comment on their stats until after we lost as I knew we were going to get hammered.
    All 3 of them 1,900 Elo, 2.0+ KDR, 400 combined flawless, 24 wins in a row.
    Jaysus we got murdered :pac:

    Their grenade throwing was seriously on point.

    That being said we found out fair share of $h!tehawks with 0.4KDR and 20% W/L ratio etc before we hit 5(?) wins

    Yeah, the first 3 games were easy enough for us. After that it went downhill FAST!


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    #361
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    Yeah, the first 3 games were easy enough for us. After that it went downhill FAST!

    I was having a look at Trials Report and to be fair we were getting some serious lemons coming up against us too. I guess people just running out Cards for Loots/ROI Book Entries


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