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Atlantic Hurricane Season 2016

  • 12-05-2016 10:38am
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    Registered Users Posts: 12,956 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    The UK Met Office is predicting a slightly above-average Atlantic Hurricane season this year. El Niño conditions are much weaker, and may even transition to La Niña conditions by the peak of the hurricane season.
    The most likely number of named tropical storms (winds of at least 39 mph) predicted to occur in the North Atlantic during the June to November period is 14, with a 70% chance that the number will be in the range 10 to 18. The 1980-2010 long-term average is 12.
    Those numbers don't include Hurricane Alex, the first January Hurricane since 1938.

    The full Tropical Cyclone naming list is here; next up: Bonnie.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    The East Pacific's SSTs have been fluctuating a lot lately. Some weeks, the anomaly suggests that La Nina is already rapidly developing, and then the areas of intensely cold water get larger, but less intense. The current anomaly suggests that La Nina will arrive sooner than the early Autumn period which forecasters had been anticipating over the last few months:

    http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane

    Click the "anomaly" button to flip between the overall SSTs, and their departure from the average.

    Compare the current pattern:

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    To the typical La Nina pattern:

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    This will be an interesting year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Invest 91L has formed already and could become a tropical storm within the next five days (30% chance that it develops within 48 hours, 60% in five days) - if it forms before June 1, we'll be off to a 2012-esque start with two named systems forming before the official start of the season, something of a rarity.

    According to some commentators on other weather forums, the positive PDO (Pacific Decadal Oscillation) which causes a "horseshoe-shaped" band of warm anomalies off the northwestern US coast could potentially fire up some wind shear that would negate La Nina's usual shear-suppression. It's too early to tell how either pattern will develop as the summer goes on, but it could make an interesting tug-of-war between the two regions of the Pacific in terms of their influence on the Atlantic if it plays out that way.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Stealthfins


    Does this mean there could be Atlantic swells hitting the west coast on balmy warm day's with off shore easterly wind's ?

    Great for surfing




  • Invest 91L has formed already and could become a tropical storm within the next five days (30% chance that it develops within 48 hours, 60% in five days) - if it forms before June 1, we'll be off to a 2012-esque start with two named systems forming before the official start of the season, something of a rarity.

    Became TS Bonnie off the Carolinas. Degenerated into post tropical remnant low. However during Friday it became a tropical depression again and is currently a tropical storm moving eastwards off the NC/Va coast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    On top of this, there is already another tropical system forming in the Gulf of Mexico, currently has a 70% chance of becoming fully tropical within 28 hours. NChurricant on Wunderground is also citing a third potential disturbance for development at some stage late next week.

    This is an exceptionally busy start to the season when compared with recent years. Early days yet, but if the pace keeps up, we could be on track to run out of names and have to delve into the Greek alphabet again - we very nearly came to this in 2012, and the only reason it didn't happen was the relatively unusual feature of having absolutely no tropical cyclones in July at all. I think just two more that year would have pushed the list over the edge.


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  • TS Colin currently moving northeastwards through the Gulf of Mexico towards Florida.

    http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Tropical Storm Gaston looking impressive set to become a Hurricane and interestingly taking a W / NW track, could it head up this way I wonder?

    ...GASTON STILL STRENGTHENING WHILE MOVING QUICKLY WEST-NORTHWESTWARD...

    OUTLOOK VALID 28/1200Z 30.7N 53.5W
    MAX WIND 80 KT...GUSTS 100 KT.



    DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK

    At 1100 AM AST (1500 UTC), the center of Tropical Storm Gaston was
    located near latitude 13.8 North, longitude 34.6 West. Gaston is
    moving toward the west-northwest near 21 mph (33 km/h). A gradual
    turn toward the northwest is expected during the next couple of
    days with a decrease in forward speed.

    Maximum sustained winds have increased to near 65 mph (100 km/h)
    with higher gusts. Additional strengthening is likely, and Gaston
    should become a hurricane later today.

    Tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 70 miles (110 km)
    from the center.

    The estimated minimum central pressure is 1002 mb (29.59 inches).

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,495 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston




  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭The12thMan


    Tropical Storm Gaston looking impressive set to become a Hurricane and interestingly taking a W / NW track, could it head up this way I wonder?


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    showing up on meteociel now.... (192h)
    http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php


    long way off though


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    The12thMan wrote: »
    showing up on meteociel now.... (192h)
    http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php


    long way off though

    Just a question for the experts here, if it was to come our way as a storm what day would it most likely, I'm away from 5th Sept and two teenagers at home would be a bit worried


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,956 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    It's getting a bit weird in the Gulf of Mexico. Tropical Storm Hermine just got upgraded to Cat.1 hurricane status. It's not going to stay that way for long, since it will lose power after becoming the first hurricane to hit Florida since 2005. It's expected to hit the Florida Panhandle overnight heading north-east, dropping up to 10 inches of rain. I have friends in Jacksonville, which is a little away from the worst, but they don't need this at the time they're trying to sell a house ...

    https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/771457816192221184

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


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  • Caused considerable damage along the Florida coast with a 6 to 10 foot storm surge. Expected to skirt up along the east coast. Predicted to go extra tropical in about 36 hrs, but the wind speeds may actually increase again to 75 mph around about the 72 hour mark. Because of this the NHC will continue to issue advisories due to the continuing threat to land. Warnings have been extended as far as NJ. Currently the system is due to remain offshore. People uneasy though I would say in the NJ/NY area with Sandy still a relatively recent memory.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    This has been a very weird hurricane season so far, with multiple disturbances in the tropical Atlantic earmarked by the NHC as a near certainty (>70% over five days) for tropical cyclone development petering off and being dropped from the forecast, and several storms being forecast to strengthen far more than they actually ended up strengthening.

    Obviously wind shear and Saharan dust have been the limiting factors as they almost always are, but what's with the unpredictability? This particular season seems to have had more "this disturbance will probably develop... No wait it won't" than most years, is there something prematurely killing developing systems which the NHC hasn't picked up on when forecasting whether a disturbance will develop?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    My time to shine :D

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    I do people hate bad weather, but there is nothing I look more forward to than rain and storms.

    I'll get my coat:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,495 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Iancar29 wrote: »
    My time to shine :D

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    Reporters breathe a sigh of relief at not having to say "Hurricane Ian"


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Tropical Storm Karl might be one to form into a Hurricane. Currently a Tropical Storm and under the effects of considerable sheer yet soon to pass over very warm waters and with uppers set to become more conducive for Karl to form to Hurricane status and the models predicting it could turn to the NW which could send it on its way across the Atlantic. Long way to go though. Something to keep an eye on.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Karl still under the influence of an upper low with wind sheer preventing it developing at the moment, plodding along with wind speeds at about 35 kts for the next 24 hes or so.

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    The global models indicate that
    the shear should relax in the next 24 to 36 hours allowing a slight
    strengthening in that period. As Karl rounds the mid-level ridge
    it will find itself in a more favorable environment with warm
    SSTs and lower shear. An increased rate of intensification should
    take place in the 48 to 72 hour time frame, and Karl is expected to
    reach hurricane strength by the end of that period

    Karls predicted track by the models would have it well west of Ireland at this stage.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


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    TROPICAL DEPRESSION KARL DISCUSSION NUMBER 30
    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL122016
    ISSUED BY THE NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
    500 PM AST WED SEP 21 2016

    The low-level center of Karl appears to have turned toward the
    northwest with a motion of 305/10 kt based on GOES-East visible
    imagery, recently tucking underneath the cirrus canopy of developing
    convection.


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    Based on the latest intensity guidance, the
    official forecast now brings Karl back to tropical storm strength
    over the next day, with intensification continuing through day 4
    after the cyclone recurves into the mid-latitude westerlies. Some
    weakening is possible by the end of the forecast period after Karl's
    transition to an extratropical cyclone.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Tropical Storm Karl set to become a Hurricane shortly. Passing over surface water temperatures of 29-30C for the next 24hrs and wind sheer to decrease. The center just passing to the passing to the E of Bermuda must be of big concern there. Set to accelerate its forward motion in the next 24 hrs and even faster by 72hrs.

    Currently 50kts
    Centre 992mb
    Set to increase to 65 kts by 24 hrs
    Set to strengthen further to about 48 hrs and peak at that and begin to weaken to extratropical after that before merging with another extratropical low.

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    See the size of Bermuda compared to Karl

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58



    BERMUDA NEWS :Tropical Storm Karl is still passing by Bermuda, and as of 6am on Saturday, the Bermuda Weather Service has discontinued the Hurricane Watch, said the closest point of approach has passed, however the Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect


    Little damage reported so far.

    http://www.earthcam.com/world/bermuda/pembroke/?cam=bermuda


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,495 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Karl? Lisa?

    So long dental plan!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    All the warmth heading up toward the artic from these Hurricanes is suppose to be good news for very cold air coming south during the winter ive heard....sudden stratospheric warming twas called


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    The NHC gave it's last Public Advisory today stating Post Tropical Karl set to become absorbed by a larger extratropical storm on Monday. Found the discussion on the cyclones cloud pattern resembling a baroclinic leaf interesting ( had to look that one up :) ). I have added a close up of what I presume to be 'the leading edge of a stratocumulus cloud deck,indicative of cold-air advection' and a chart showing 850mb winds.


    000
    WTNT42 KNHC 251434
    TCDAT2

    POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE KARL DISCUSSION NUMBER 45
    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL122016
    1100 AM AST SUN SEP 25 2016

    While Karl was producing a large shield of deep convection earlier,
    the convective tops have since warmed substantially and decreased in
    coverage. The cyclone's cloud pattern resembles a baroclinic leaf,
    which is the typical satellite signature of a system that has become
    a frontal wave. The leading edge of a stratocumulus cloud deck,
    indicative of cold-air advection, is also encroaching on the
    low-level center. Based on these developments and FSU Phase Space
    diagrams that already show the cyclone as cold core, Karl is being
    declared an extratropical cyclone. The initial intensity estimate is
    held at 60 kt in agreement with earlier Global Hawk sonde data and
    the cyclone's rapid translational speed. Global models show Post-
    Tropical Karl being absorbed by a larger extratropical storm over
    the North Atlantic after about 24 hours.

    A series of earlier microwave images showed that the center was
    rapidly becoming deformed due to nearly 50 kt of southwesterly
    shear. Since this has made finding the location of the low-level
    center difficult, the initial motion estimate is a rather uncertain
    055/42. The post-tropical cyclone is expected to accelerate a bit
    further toward the northeast and then turn north-northeast before
    losing its identity.


    FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

    INIT 25/1500Z 39.9N 47.9W 60 KT 70 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
    12H 26/0000Z 45.0N 39.7W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
    24H 26/1200Z 52.5N 31.5W 50 KT 60 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
    36H 27/0000Z...ABSORBED

    $$
    Forecaster Kimberlain

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    97-L is starting to look like a brewing monster on the models.

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    gfs_z500_mslp_atl_38.png

    Bit far out, but could be a messy one


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Expected to be a Tropical Storm soon , the models predicting this to get very big . The East coast of America will be watching this one to see how it develops.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,956 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    The former 97-L is now Hurricane Matthew, which has rapidly intensified to Cat.3 Cat.4, and is expected to veer north towards Jamaica and Cuba, and possibly the east coast of Florida after that. It's the most serious storm in the region since Sandy (2012).

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD




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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    One of the interesting features of this year's hurricane season is that the warm pool in the west Atlantic isn't just SST - it apparently extends quite far down into the ocean, which means that one of the usual rate-limiting factors for hurricanes - that as their winds increase, they disturb the water and pull the cooler water up from below, thus slowing their own development - doesn't apply this year.

    Bloggers and commentators have been talking about this since early July. The only reason it's taken this long for it to happen is that the Pacific is still warm enough from last year's El Nino to be producing a lot of EPAC tropical cyclones and thus firing a series of upper lows across the United States, which have been keeping wind shear very high across the Western Atlantic. That would appear to be slowly changing, and there's a lot of pent-up energy in that region because of the lack of storms so far this year - Matthew could just be the first in a series of late-season severe hurricanes for 2016.


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