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03-08-2016 9:53pm#1Ok guys have been meaning to post this for quite some time. A lot of us here are beyond angry at this entire farce / saga. The media are entirely clueless on the topic of Dublin transport infrastructure. In terms of the politicans Grandeeod, summed things up perfectly. This bull**** of deferring both projects the more you delve into it, stands up to zero scrutiny!We were here before and now we are here again. It is beyond any reasonable comprehension that both this study and the other one issued for DU re. Inchicore/Heuston is being done in the interests of saving money for the taxpayer and developing a starting point for better rail transport in the city.
This is just more reinventing the wheel based on ignorant, careless and power hungry politicians.
I get done for thousands in direct and indirect taxes every year, like I am sure you all do. I have to put up with all of these politician induced problems, appalling infrastructure, accommodation prices in Dublin, outrageous marginal income rates etc. My point about the taxes being that spending a few quid for the immense satisfaction for taking a stand against this versus the disgust at what my taxes here actually give me in return!
It seems to me that they only way to make progress on this, is absolutely shaming them and blowing all of their bull**** arguments out of the air in the media. We waste too long here either bickering or disagreeing with each other, investing serious time in doing so. While those liars and bull****ters get away without being challenged. The irony is, as soon as they are challenged on issues of contention on rte, they back down regardless of whether they think they are actually in the right or wrong.
Let me get to my point, at this stage I would be prepared to crowd fund,calling these clowns out for what they are, by A) educating people on social media and boards etc, about the important of a decent transport network for Dublin and its part in resolving the housing crisis (which I am sure they care massively about
take out ad space in Irish times and mainly independent, with an article that highlights the absolutes jokes this situation is and these idiots making these decisions. Damage the reputations of government Fg in this case, ex transport minister etc like Donohue, who seems to be able to go from one ministry to the next without doing anything!
We have recently had coveney with his housing report. Not worth the paper its written on, no mention of the sheer extra amount of housing we could build with original MN and DU and also the moronic densities permitted in several areas of Dublin...
anyway, opinions?4
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Idbatterim wrote: »Ok guys have been meaning to post this for quite some time. A lot of us here are beyond angry at this entire farce / saga. The media are entirely clueless on the topic of Dublin transport infrastructure. In terms of the politicans Grandeeod, summed things up perfectly. This bull**** of deferring both projects the more you delve into it, stands up to zero scrutiny!
I get done for thousands in direct and indirect taxes every year, like I am sure you all do. I have to put up with all of these politician induced problems, appalling infrastructure, accommodation prices in Dublin, outrageous marginal income rates etc. My point about the taxes being that spending a few quid for the immense satisfaction for taking a stand against this versus the disgust at what my taxes here actually give me in return!
It seems to me that they only way to make progress on this, is absolutely shaming them and blowing all of their bull**** arguments out of the air in the media. We waste too long here either bickering or disagreeing with each other, investing serious time in doing so. While those liars and bull****ters get away without being challenged. The irony is, as soon as they are challenged on issues of contention on rte, they back down regardless of whether they think they are actually in the right or wrong.
Let me get to my point, at this stage I would be prepared to crowd fund,calling these clowns out for what they are, by A) educating people on social media and boards etc, about the important of a decent transport network for Dublin and its part in resolving the housing crisis (which I am sure they care massively about take out ad space in Irish times and mainly independent, with an article that highlights the absolutes jokes this situation is and these idiots making these decisions. Damage the reputations of government Fg in this case, ex transport minister etc like Donohue, who seems to be able to go from one ministry to the next without doing anything!
We have recently had coveney with his housing report. Not worth the paper its written on, no mention of the sheer extra amount of housing we could build with original MN and DU and also the moronic densities permitted in several areas of Dublin...
anyway, opinions?
I'm just gonna move to Sweden instead.
Seriously though, I'm exhausted by all this. I remember getting the lovely DU DVD back in 2008/9 from the ABP and I was so happy at the thought of going from Lucan (Kishogue[another days work]) to Dún Laoghaire (where I worked at the time and changing in Pearse St. I remember the idea of a door-to-door transport infrastructure where the savings and improvements in the quality of life of our citizens and city would be so obvious that they would revolutionise the city and country into wanting better for everything.
But then I woke up and realised that as long as suggestions like this are made and the benefits are seen as only for Dublin then we will never get anywhere.
Sure even the DU proposals for the tunnelling in East Wall were scuppered because the locals "weren't getting any benefit" but all of the hassle.
**** the locals.
So I am impressed with the enthusiasm and hope you keep it up. But I'm just tired of it all.
So getting the 25A or B home later I can see the Kishogue edifice as I come out of the Foxborough estate (which I wouldn't have been going through if the original Network Direct proposals were passed instead of kowtowing to politicians), and then I'll sigh a little.0 -
Idbatterim wrote: »Ok guys have been meaning to post this for quite some time. A lot of us here are beyond angry at this entire farce / saga. The media are entirely clueless on the topic of Dublin transport infrastructure. In terms of the politicans Grandeeod, summed things up perfectly. This bull**** of deferring both projects the more you delve into it, stands up to zero scrutiny!
I get done for thousands in direct and indirect taxes every year, like I am sure you all do. I have to put up with all of these politician induced problems, appalling infrastructure, accommodation prices in Dublin, outrageous marginal income rates etc. My point about the taxes being that spending a few quid for the immense satisfaction for taking a stand against this versus the disgust at what my taxes here actually give me in return!
It seems to me that they only way to make progress on this, is absolutely shaming them and blowing all of their bull**** arguments out of the air in the media. We waste too long here either bickering or disagreeing with each other, investing serious time in doing so. While those liars and bull****ters get away without being challenged. The irony is, as soon as they are challenged on issues of contention on rte, they back down regardless of whether they think they are actually in the right or wrong.
Let me get to my point, at this stage I would be prepared to crowd fund,calling these clowns out for what they are, by A) educating people on social media and boards etc, about the important of a decent transport network for Dublin and its part in resolving the housing crisis (which I am sure they care massively about take out ad space in Irish times and mainly independent, with an article that highlights the absolutes jokes this situation is and these idiots making these decisions. Damage the reputations of government Fg in this case, ex transport minister etc like Donohue, who seems to be able to go from one ministry to the next without doing anything!
We have recently had coveney with his housing report. Not worth the paper its written on, no mention of the sheer extra amount of housing we could build with original MN and DU and also the moronic densities permitted in several areas of Dublin...
anyway, opinions?
You know my opinions anyway.0 -
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