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  • #332
    mikeecho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    I usually cruise the motorway way at 90mph, that's 145kph

    And I haven't been pulled over in 6years


  • #333
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭D Trent


    mikeecho wrote: »
    I usually cruise the motorway way at 90mph, that's 145kph

    And I haven't been pulled over in 6years

    Cruise control is rarely that accurate though.

    To determine its accuracy compare it with a Satnav in the car.
    Look at the speed on the satnav which would be the more accurate of the two and if they compare then your cruise control is A1


  • #334
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,815 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Or the fact that the #1 isssue on Irish motorways is lane discipline, not speeding.


  • #335
    FrontDoor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭FrontDoor


    The thing about shooting fish in a barrel is that you can miss a lot of them.

    A few times lately, me or my wife have been nearly wiped out by people overtaking blind or in one case a guy over taking a line of traffic behind me and not having enough to get past the last few cars, and nearly forcing me off the road.

    It is reckoned 10% of drivers are uninsured.

    Guys doing donunts. Guys playing chicken with each other. Drink driving.

    There are seriously dangerous drivers on the road and focus is too much on the fish in the barrel and not enough on the lunatics.


  • #336
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,815 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    The total amount of GoSafe zones increased by 370 this year.

    Road deaths are up 14% year-on-year with this time last year.

    3.5% of deaths this year were on the N20 Cork-Limerick Road, which is a dangerous narrow single carraigeway route.

    This current "Speed kills" mantra needs to be binned.


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  • #337
    FrontDoor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭FrontDoor


    marno21 wrote: »
    3.5% of deaths this year were on the N20 Cork-Limerick Road, which is a dangerous narrow single carraigeway route.
    Holy fcuk. That is astonishing. And yet not surprising at all.

    And no sign of a motorway to replace it.


  • #338
    prinzeugen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    frozenfrozen wrote: »
    I'm not condoning doing 150kph, anyone who does it should know the consequence of getting caught etc..

    but, you can't really ever talk about kinetic energy or another vehicle or this or that or the other. If these things were based on that, I should be allowed do 300kph on a motorbike and a truck driver should only be allowed do 80kph.

    or a cheap car shouldn't be able to go as fast as a ferrari which has 10x better brakes...

    two identical cars one braking from 120 and the other from 150, ok.

    what about someone who barely scrapes the nct every year doing 120kph in their car rattling along, vs someone in an audi R8 doing 150. I know which I'd rather have emergency braking behind me.

    You presume you will be able to brake first.. You also need to remember the speed and kinetic energy of the vehicle that is heading towards you.

    You doing 150 kph, regardless of how **** hot you think your breaks are, hitting another vehicle doing 120 kph is the same as you hitting a wall at 270kph..

    You are fecked!

    You should read the accident report into the Great Heck train crash in the UK. What happens when a fast light thing with great brakes hits a slow moving heavy thing.


  • #339
    Padkir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭Padkir


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    You presume you will be able to brake first.. You also need to remember the speed and kinetic energy of the vehicle that is heading towards you.

    You doing 150 kph, regardless of how **** hot you think your breaks are, hitting another vehicle doing 120 kph is the same as you hitting a wall at 270kph..

    You are fecked!

    You should read the accident report into the Great Heck train crash in the UK. What happens when a fast light thing with great brakes hits a slow moving heavy thing.

    You're not going to hit someone going 120 towards you on a motorway though... So that scare tactic logic doesn't work.


  • #340
    prinzeugen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Padkir wrote: »
    You're not going to hit someone going 120 towards you on a motorway though... So that scare tactic logic doesn't work.

    Maybe google "wrong way down motorway" and look for articles from Ireland.. Happens very often but is dealt with in the local court so does not make national news.


  • #341
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,815 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    Maybe google "wrong way down motorway" and look for articles from Ireland.. Happens very often but is dealt with in the local court so does not make national news.
    Penalty points for driving against the flow of traffic on a motorway: 2

    Penalty points for doing 125km/h on a motorway: 3


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  • #342
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Average speed cameras stop that "shooting fish in a barrel" feeling that some have


    there is typically a 50% reduction in the collision rate once average speed cameras are in operation


  • #343
    Padkir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭Padkir


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    Maybe google "wrong way down motorway" and look for articles from Ireland.. Happens very often but is dealt with in the local court so does not make national news.

    Do you think a 240kph head on compared to 270 would have much of a different outcome?


  • #344
    Thoie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭Thoie


    shietpilot wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/764737451428569088

    If the driver was taking exit 13 then he was about to enter (or may just have entered) a 60kph zone, so it kind of depends where he was in relation to the garda car.


  • #345
    Arcade_Tryer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    marno21 wrote: »

    This current "Speed kills" mantra needs to be binned.
    Inappropriate speed kills.

    The speed at which motorists round blind bends on my rural national route to work everyday beggars belief. On roads which routinely have massive machinery engaged in hedge cutting, cyclists and countless tractors. Yet when I ease off the accelerator coming into these bends you would think I was wearing out my break pads. I'm convinced that it is this kind of behaviour and inability to judge and use correct speed for given situations which causes most speed related accidents. Doing 140km/hr on a clear motorway is far safer than doing 80km/hr around a completely blind bend. Yet the majority of Irish drivers would sooner do the latter in my experience.

    Tailgating is also a major problem but that deserves a thread of its own tbh.


  • #346
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,815 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Arcade_Tryer wrote: »
    Inappropriate speed kills.

    The speed at which motorists round blind bends on my rural national route to work everyday beggars belief. On roads which routinely have massive machinery engaged in hedge cutting, cyclists and countless tractors. Yet when I ease off the accelerator coming into these bends you would think I was wearing out my break pads. I'm convinced that it is this kind of behaviour and inability to judge and use correct speed for given situations which causes most speed related accidents. Doing 140km/hr on a clear motorway is far safer than doing 80km/hr around a completely blind bend. Yet the majority of Irish drivers would sooner do the latter in my experience.

    Tailgating is also a major problem but that deserves a thread of its own tbh.
    Yes, but the Gardai continue to catch people doing appropriate speeds. These don't kill people. People don't get killed on the M20 in Limerick but they are there daily.

    Anyone doing hedge cutting on a national route should have appropriate advance warning signage. If they don't then they are negligable in the case of an accident.


  • #347
    Special Circumstances
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,540 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    Ah the neverending roundabout of "well if some demented old person was given access to car keys and drove against the flow obliviously, the impact on an unsuspecting motorist would be like hitting a wall at Mach 3, fact!" versus "well, if 150kph on a quality motorway, in dry bright conditions, not at rush hour, is soooooooo dangerous, why isn't the speed limit 60kph on all motorways at peak times when dark, wet, windy?"
    Which is more dangerous?
    Which are you more likely to be penalised for?


  • #348
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,546 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    You doing 150 kph, regardless of how **** hot you think your breaks are, hitting another vehicle doing 120 kph is the same as you hitting a wall at 270kph..
    Just to be a pedant: you doing 150 km/h hitting an oncoming car at 120 km/h is the same as hitting that same stationary car at 270 km/h; not a wall. Not incredibly healthier for the occupants, but, if you're in a truck and they're in a Smart car... That question always annoyed me in the theory test.


  • #349
    Special Circumstances
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,540 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Just to be a pedant: you doing 150 km/h hitting an oncoming car at 120 km/h is the same as hitting that same stationary car at 270 km/h; not a wall. Not incredibly healthier for the occupants, but, if you're in a truck and they're in a Smart car... That question always annoyed me in the theory test.

    Nein! it is verboten to poke holes in der "125kph on dry bright motorway killlllls!" thinking :pac: Take your physics and common sense and get out of here!


  • #350
    shietpilot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭shietpilot


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Just to be a pedant: you doing 150 km/h hitting an oncoming car at 120 km/h is the same as hitting that same stationary car at 270 km/h; not a wall. Not incredibly healthier for the occupants, but, if you're in a truck and they're in a Smart car... That question always annoyed me in the theory test.

    What oncoming car? :eek:


  • #351
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,546 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    shietpilot wrote: »
    What oncoming car? :eek:
    Responsive Boards site lost my quote! Fixed.


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  • #352
    millington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭millington


    FrontDoor wrote: »
    Is it me or do people travel a bit slower these days?

    If they could focus on these lads a little more

    01502607.gif

    No relevance to road safety really. Understandably annoying and disruptive to locals but speed is definitely more lethal than donuts. :eek:


  • #353
    Falcon L
    Closed Accounts Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Falcon L


    millington wrote: »
    FrontDoor wrote: »
    Is it me or do people travel a bit slower these days?

    If they could focus on these lads a little more

    01502607.gif

    No relevance to road safety really. Understandably annoying and disruptive to locals but speed is definitely more lethal than donuts. :eek:
    I've seen donuts on the M11, are you saying that doing donuts on a motorway is safer than speeding on a motorway?


  • #354
    Cheensbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Cheensbo


    I doubt they are saying that now come on, pic above - that you have quoted - shows a straight road with a rake of visibility,

    Now donuts and the doing of them are quite annoying, and they really get peoples backs up but honestly, they're not a very lethal activity, at all.

    I know id rather have 'differs' pop a few rings in my village than have lunatics speeding through it.....


  • #355
    millington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭millington


    Falcon L wrote: »
    I've seen donuts on the M11, are you saying that doing donuts on a motorway is safer than speeding on a motorway?
    Possibly. At 4am on a motorway you could see for a fair distance behind you and have a lot of time to get out of the way. Not a wise act either way, but I doubt theres ever been anyone even slightly injured from donuts, on the M11 or not.

    On a blind bend in the middle of the day it would be more dangerous but I doubt many are that foolish.


  • #356
    Thoie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭Thoie


    millington wrote: »
    Possibly. At 4am on a motorway you could see for a fair distance behind you and have a lot of time to get out of the way. Not a wise act either way, but I doubt theres ever been anyone even slightly injured from donuts, on the M11 or not.

    On a blind bend in the middle of the day it would be more dangerous but I doubt many are that foolish.

    You're assuming that everyone else on the motorway at 4am has working headlights...


  • #357
    Paddy@CIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Paddy@CIRL


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    You doing 150 kph, regardless of how **** hot you think your breaks are, hitting another vehicle doing 120 kph is the same as you hitting a wall at 270kph..

    Further pedantry, but it doesn't work that way. You can't add the two speeds together to come up with the impact speed. If two cars hit each other head on, both travelling at 100KM/H, the impact is 100KM/H, not 200KM/H.

    If you want to think of it as one cancelling out the other. There's seemingly infinite variables on this too, but that's the general gist of it.


  • #358
    ba_barabus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    People used to believe that your head would explode if you're Horseless carriage went over 20k/hr


  • #359
    Special Circumstances
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,540 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    People used to believe that your head would explode if you're Horseless carriage went over 20k/hr

    Only if your horseless carriage was 14 years old or more and was examined annually for roadworthiness.


  • #360
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Back on topic, an Almera on slicks, learner driver, car also no NCT or Tax, only for it had insurance it would be a full house...
    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/765452920557080576

    The Gardaí should be in a competition where the most death trap seizures wins them a brand new 5 Series or something, one a year.


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  • #361
    FrontDoor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭FrontDoor


    millington wrote: »
    No relevance to road safety really. Understandably annoying and disruptive to locals but speed is definitely more lethal than donuts. :eek:

    I think it is very relevant.

    There is a subset of drivers out there who are lethal in the way they drive, the condition of themselves or their cars. Donuts are just one manifestation of it.

    There is little enough focus on these groups. Even though alcohol is a factor in many fatal collisions, I've don't recall ever being stopped at a checkpoint in nearly 20 years driving. I am routinely checked for tax and insurance though.

    I'd like to see some resources pointed at these areas a little more.


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