One of the biggest cover ups in history

Reiver · 11-08-2016 11:46AM #1

Is it possible that the Black Death was really a cover up for a zombie outbreak, an onslaught of the walking dead? The symptoms are all there and it would help explain why the epidemic spread so fast and voraciously, the population of the world was hit hard by it. What do people think?

seamus · 11-08-2016 11:48AM

Who covered up it, and why?

Fuzzytrooper · 11-08-2016 11:49AM

The saucer people in conjunction with the reverse vampires.

Butters1979 · 11-08-2016 11:50AM

1. The Black Death or the pubonic plague still exists today. We have clear scientific evidence that it exists and what it can do to a population without the medical science to fight it.

2. We have clear biological scientifically knowledge to understand that zombies cannot exist.

I'm sure this thread was just for a bit of fun though. So let's say it was a cover up. Do you mean it was covered up at the time or later in history. And why?

Jawgap · 11-08-2016 11:53AM

seamus wrote: »

Who covered up it, and why?

The Illuminati......no, wait, the Masons.....no, wait the Knights Templar......or all of the above!

:D:D:D

My understanding of plague is that there's not much walking involved when it strikes you down

Letree · 11-08-2016 11:53AM

I don't think you are on to something there

wally79 · 11-08-2016 11:53AM

Butters1979 wrote: »

the pubonic plague

This conversation could get hairy

InTheTrees · 11-08-2016 11:55AM

Butters1979 wrote: »

1. The Black Death or the pubonic plague still exists today.

That would be the terrifying condition of not being able to find a pub? Thats why zombies stagger so much and have that far away stare.

Glenster · 11-08-2016 11:56AM

Reiver wrote: »

Is it possible that the Black Death was really a cover up for a zombie outbreak, an onslaught of the walking dead? The symptoms are all there and it would help explain why the epidemic spread so fast and voraciously, the population of the world was hit hard by it. What do people think?

It all adds up.

Mystery solved. Pub anyone?

looksee · 11-08-2016 11:56AM

What did the walking dead die of, and why did they suddenly all decide to get up?

Why did so many people die, were they the walking dead, or were they killed by zombies? Which came first? How does a zombie kill someone?

ohnonotgmail · 11-08-2016 11:57AM

InTheTrees wrote: »

That would be the terrifying condition of not being able to find a pub? Thats why zombies stagger so much and have that far away stare.

surely that would be their state AFTER leaving the pub?

ohnonotgmail · 11-08-2016 11:57AM

looksee wrote: »

What did the walking dead die of, and why did they suddenly all decide to get up?

Why did so many people die, were they the walking dead, or were they killed by zombies? Which came first? How does a zombie kill someone?

they crack open their skulls and feast on the goo inside.

Wibbs · 11-08-2016 11:58AM

Butters1979 wrote: »

pubonic plague

Fúck. That. :eek::eek::eek: *injects industrial strength antibiotics in gluteus*

Widdershins · 11-08-2016 12:00PM

Plagues probably inspired zombie / revenant legends

Pac1Man · 11-08-2016 12:00PM

Nobody ever landed on the moon.

Jawgap · 11-08-2016 12:03PM

Butters1979 wrote: »

1. The Black Death or the pubonic plague still exists today......

InTheTrees wrote: »

That would be the terrifying condition of not being able to find a pub? Thats why zombies stagger so much and have that far away stare.

No, it's victims can be seen most weekends staggering away from Coppers - mostly Dublin lads who've hooked up with GAA groupies up for d'match.

The only other time I've seen guys with that dead stare in their eyes was in the 'Nam

"The thousand-yard stare. A Marine gets it after he's been in the **** for too long. It's like you've really seen...beyond. I got it. All field Marines got it. You'll have it, too."

uck51js9zml2yt · 11-08-2016 12:07PM

Yes it's possible....end thread or move to conspiracy theories.

Wibbs · 11-08-2016 12:07PM

In some outbreaks the plague went pneumonic and in that form the infected could go from feeling fine to dead very rapidly. It was reported that this could happen even mid sentence. Septicaemic type is very rapid too. A few hours IIRC. Bubonic can take a few days. If it ever went rogue again because of some random mutation then even modern medicine could be quickly overwhelmed.

There was more than one "plague" too. Chroniclers tended to lump all epidemics under one title. Virulent smallpox was added to the list. There was an odd one sometimes named the sweat or sweating fever that swept across Europe killing loads. Henry the 8th's missus Anne Boleyn barely survived it. Other types appeared to be akin to Ebola, IE haemorrhagic fevers. Another killed horses as well as people for some reason. Europe had rolling yearly plagues and epidemics as part of daily life for over a thousand years. We don't know we're born really. We're very lucky. And lucky too because if you are of European stock you're likely resistant to many fevers that would kill other populations. It's one theory why HIV didn't spread nearly so rapidly here. Indeed there are quite the percentage of Europeans who are essentially immune to the virus.

Fascinating part of history for me.

Reiver · 11-08-2016 12:12PM

Pac1Man wrote: »

Nobody ever landed on the moon.

Please try to stay on topic.

Duggy747 · 11-08-2016 12:13PM

Jet beams can't melt steel fuel.

CINCLANTFLT · 11-08-2016 12:15PM

I heard it was covered up by the lads who keep all those secret castles full of goats...

Collie D · 11-08-2016 12:19PM

Like a lot of modern day conspiracies the Plague was blamed on the Jews

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death_Jewish_persecutions

11-08-2016 12:25PM

I have a sudden urge to listen to some Iron Maiden after reading through this thread

Your Face · 11-08-2016 12:25PM

Reiver wrote: »

Is it possible that the Black Death was really a cover up for a zombie outbreak, an onslaught of the walking dead? The symptoms are all there and it would help explain why the epidemic spread so fast and voraciously, the population of the world was hit hard by it. What do people think?

Please explain your hypothesis.
Focus on details.

Reiver · 11-08-2016 12:27PM

Wibbs wrote: »

In some outbreaks the plague went pneumonic and in that form the infected could go from feeling fine to dead very rapidly. It was reported that this could happen even mid sentence. Septicaemic type is very rapid too. A few hours IIRC. Bubonic can take a few days. If it ever went rogue again because of some random mutation then even modern medicine could be quickly overwhelmed.

There was more than one "plague" too. Chroniclers tended to lump all epidemics under one title. Virulent smallpox was added to the list. There was an odd one sometimes named the sweat or sweating fever that swept across Europe killing loads. Henry the 8th's missus Anne Boleyn barely survived it. Other types appeared to be akin to Ebola, IE haemorrhagic fevers. Another killed horses as well as people for some reason. Europe had rolling yearly plagues and epidemics as part of daily life for over a thousand years. We don't know we're born really. We're very lucky. And lucky too because if you are of European stock you're likely resistant to many fevers that would kill other populations. It's one theory why HIV didn't spread nearly so rapidly here. Indeed there are quite the percentage of Europeans who are essentially immune to the virus.

Fascinating part of history for me.

Thank you, very informative. Is it possible to see a resurgence of these plagues? Would they be as effective?

Jawgap · 11-08-2016 12:27PM

Wibbs wrote: »

In some outbreaks the plague went pneumonic and in that form the infected could go from feeling fine to dead very rapidly. It was reported that this could happen even mid sentence. Septicaemic type is very rapid too. A few hours IIRC. Bubonic can take a few days. If it ever went rogue again because of some random mutation then even modern medicine could be quickly overwhelmed.

There was more than one "plague" too. Chroniclers tended to lump all epidemics under one title. Virulent smallpox was added to the list. There was an odd one sometimes named the sweat or sweating fever that swept across Europe killing loads. Henry the 8th's missus Anne Boleyn barely survived it. Other types appeared to be akin to Ebola, IE haemorrhagic fevers. Another killed horses as well as people for some reason. Europe had rolling yearly plagues and epidemics as part of daily life for over a thousand years. We don't know we're born really. We're very lucky. And lucky too because if you are of European stock you're likely resistant to many fevers that would kill other populations. It's one theory why HIV didn't spread nearly so rapidly here. Indeed there are quite the percentage of Europeans who are essentially immune to the virus.

Fascinating part of history for me.

Yep, the health and nutrition status of a lot of the population would have left them vulnerable to infection and some of the burial and inhumation practices contributed to the spread.

Add to that war and famine and you get to how it spread so quickly. Bubonic plague (the Black Death outbreak) is reputed to have been carried westward into Europe with the advancing Mongol armies, who may have picked it up either in China or somewhere along their route of march - they made good use of the corpses of the dead though - flinging them into towns they were besieging to encourage them to submit.

Caffa was one place where they did it and there's a theory that Italian merchants fleeing the city in their ships brought it into southern Europe from whence it spread.

CINCLANTFLT · 11-08-2016 12:30PM

Collie D wrote: »

Like a lot of modern day conspiracies the Plague was blamed on the Jews

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death_Jewish_persecutions

Do I really need to spell this out for you:
http://www.dublinpeople.com/news/northsidewest/articles/2015/11/20/4109593-credit-unions-join-forces-in-major-merger/

http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/goat

Darned Sheeple!!!!

Esel · 11-08-2016 12:32PM

Plaque causes plague. That's why dentists are rich, and alive.

CINCLANTFLT · 11-08-2016 12:45PM

http://www.dublinpeople.com/news/nor...-major-merger/

http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/goat

The_Valeyard · 11-08-2016 12:45PM

Esel wrote: »

Plaque causes plague. That's why dentists are rich, and alive.

Hmmm

And many dentists have been dead inside for years!

Widdershins · 11-08-2016 12:48PM

Reiver wrote: »

Thank you, very informative. Is it possible to see a resurgence of these plagues? Would they be as effective?

Bubonic plague still turns up now and then but it's treatable with antibiotics .
Of course antibiotics are becoming obsolete and the race is on to discover new types that bacteria aren't resistant to ..

One of the biggest cover ups in history

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