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The sequel

  • 14-05-2003 7:19pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭


    Have sequels ruined Hollywood and the film industry, will we ever get back to the days of just one clasic film standing on its own


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    nothing wrong with sequels...could you live with just "one" matrix film ? heh or one "Alien" film ? or what about one "godafther" film ? if you dont want to see a sequel dont go see ti full stop :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭lamda


    Of course there can be one classic standing on its own.... If you look at most sequels, they're for blockbusters anyway and the most of them are hardly classics on their own. The classics today are still stand alone films for the most part.
    Not counting trilogies that is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭Spock


    some films need sequels i admit ie "the matrix" however in these modern times it seems more about the money
    I mean with the success of The back to the Future triliogy on DVD there is talk of another one.
    The writers said no,the directer said no, Micheal J Fox and Christopher Lloyd said no but Speilberg said he'd do it.
    Thats all about the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant


    Originally posted by Spock
    The writers said no,the directer said no, Micheal J Fox and Christopher Lloyd said no but Speilberg said he'd do it.
    Thats all about the money.
    Spielberg needs money?
    And Christopher Lloyd doesn't?
    Whut?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Originally posted by ObeyGiant
    Spielberg needs money?
    And Christopher Lloyd doesn't?

    I think it just means 'Spielberg will whore himself for the money' rather than 'Spielberg actually needs the money'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Nemici


    I dont mind the odd sequel, but when it takes over and becomes part 6 7 and 8 its just makes a mockery of the original story.

    Isnt that just a cash thing ?

    why make "jaws the revenge" if only to make a really quick buck? (did it make money?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant


    Originally posted by Pigman II
    I think it just means 'Spielberg will whore himself for the money' rather than 'Spielberg actually needs the money'
    Based on what?
    If anything - I'd say Spielberg's track record at whoring himself is reasonably clean (cleaner than most directors of a similar status). He bailed out of the Jurassic Park franchise as soon as he realised there was absolutely no point in continuing it, other than to milk all the money they could from it. Can you imagine how much cash he must have been offered to do that? I'd bet it had about as many zeroes as I have fingers.

    (and as for Christopher Lloyd - it's not like he is completely innocent of whoring himself.. My Favourite Martian? Baby Geniuses? SUBURBAN COMMANDO? It doesn't really strike me as if he's in it for the artistry of it all.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Byzantine


    Originally posted by Nemici
    I dont mind the odd sequel, but when it takes over and becomes part 6 7 and 8 its just makes a mockery of the original story.

    Isnt that just a cash thing ?

    why make "jaws the revenge" if only to make a really quick buck? (did it make money?)
    well if it didnt-it should have...What a movie filled with 3d suspense!!:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭RoadRunner


    anyone seen pitch black. The aliens film with van diesel in it. I heard they are doing a second film with his character going on the rampage killing the hell out of everyone. no aliens or nothing to do with pitch black the film. that sounds like a new idea for a sequel/prequel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭Spock


    Speilberg dosent NEED the money but thats what another BTTF would be about, the studio and Speilberg cashing in on a franchise
    Yes they are making another pitch black, why, because Vin Diesel is famous now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant


    Originally posted by Spock
    Speilberg dosent NEED the money but thats what another BTTF would be about, the studio and Speilberg cashing in on a franchise
    Are you even reading some of the (fantastic) points I am making here? I've already said that although Spielberg is a big-name, big-budget director, he's not known for cashing for the sake of cashing in - he has at least a modicum of integrity. Read my point regarding Jurassic Park III for evidence of this.

    Personally, I always thought the Back to the Future trilogy ended really weakly. I never, ever liked the inexplicable flying train nonsense, and cringe every time I see it. Maybe the third film is about the filmmakers going back in time to change that horrible ending.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭SCULLY


    What do you think is the worst sequel ever, to a good original movie?
    I think the award goes to Highlander 2,3 & 4 - Great original movie , so they make a really crap sequel (which must have made money though 'cos they made the 3rd part , which was a prequel to part 2 and was also crap). Then they make a 4th installment which totally ignored part 2 & 3.

    Oh yeah, I also agree about the stupid flying train from BTTF!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Caesar_Bojangle


    Well said tusky.


    What would the movie industry be without Species 2?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭patch


    Worst sequel also goes to the worst movie ever.
    Batman and Robin.
    I'm a big Batman fan..... imagine how crap it had to be for me to turn it off half way through. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭stevoslice


    If We Didn't have the sequel, then we would't have got top quality movies like Grease 2, and Ernest Goes Somewhere, and D2 The Mighty Ducks, and books like The New Testament.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭GUI


    lads
    this award for worst sequel ever goes to:

    drum roll please.............


    fortress 2

    fortress 1 was excellent

    2 was worse then any 20day shoot tv movie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭Spock


    Okay, so speilberg dosen't usual cash-in for the cash but this will be his first time if he does the BTTF thing, with no one from the oringals


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