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DSL splitter Question

  • 30-04-2003 4:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭


    Afternoon all,

    This poss belongs in Net/Comms, if it does, sorry!

    I got my Netgear DG824m the other day.
    In the package was a free micro filter/splitter for the phone line.

    Now the prob is that the "post-filter" phone connection is one of those damn UK plugs.
    So i got a UK to US(rj11) plugged it all in and....no dial-tone!?
    I then got a working phone cable with just bare wires at one end (that i use for testing bare connections) and attached it to the bare terminals of the socket. I can't seem to get a dial-tone from any of the terminals coming out the the splitter.!?

    Question is..
    could the splitter be dead?
    could there be something funky going on with my line?
    or is the UK wiring completly different from ours? (i noticed they had three connected wires in the socket, instead of our 2 (red and green)



    Cheers
    S.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,486 ✭✭✭Redshift


    I know the UK use a three wire system for their phones don't know much more about it than that, but two of the terminals should give you a dial tone. try stripping a Uk phone cable and plug it into the splitter you should get a dialtone on a pair you could then put a rj11 socket on it.

    Red


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭shurl


    Yeah tried that,
    It came with a small cable with a uk plug on one end a RJ11 on the other.

    Cut off the RJ11, plugged it into the splitter and tried the wires..nothing.

    Even opened the splitter and used the terminals direct.

    Cheers
    S.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,486 ✭✭✭Redshift


    How are you checking for a dial tone? if you dont mind me asking.
    From whay you said I would imagine that the splitter is either screwed or somehow incompatable-unlikely. Have you definatley got a dial tone going into the splitter, sorry if it sounds a stupid question as you seem to have a good grasp of what you're doing

    Cheers
    Ryan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭shurl


    Thats cool redshift, i'd do it myself :-)

    Yeah phoneline works fine.


    I'm baffled myself, I'm fairly sure that there is no big differences (apart from the plug that is) between UK and Ireland tel wiring.

    So it must be the splitter.

    Might try and pick an Irish one up over the Weekend and see if it works.


    Cheers for the replies though!

    S.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭zz03


    Originally posted by shurl
    Afternoon all,

    This poss belongs in Net/Comms, if it does, sorry!

    I got my Netgear DG824m the other day.
    In the package was a free micro filter/splitter for the phone line.

    Now the prob is that the "post-filter" phone connection is one of those damn UK plugs.
    So i got a UK to US(rj11) plugged it all in and....no dial-tone!?
    I then got a working phone cable with just bare wires at one end (that i use for testing bare connections) and attached it to the bare terminals of the socket. I can't seem to get a dial-tone from any of the terminals coming out the the splitter.!?

    Question is..
    could the splitter be dead?
    could there be something funky going on with my line?
    or is the UK wiring completly different from ours? (i noticed they had three connected wires in the socket, instead of our 2 (red and green)



    Cheers
    S.

    Came across the same crap in PC World in Dublin the other day. Filters not compatible with eircom network.

    I suspect that they haven't followed the standard pinouts (as is usual in that country. BT decided to create their own plug rather than using the RJ11 to reduce competition from imported attachments. Where RJ11s are used in that country, they frequently don't follow the pinout standards. Over 50 other countries use RJ11 to the RJ11 pinout norm).

    I would suggest that you send the kit back for a refund on the grounds that it does not comply with international standards and you live in Ireland and they knew you lived in Ireland and therefore the product was unfit for the purpose for which it was sold.

    zz..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭shurl


    Aha!
    Fixed!

    The line in to the splitter (and also the UK plug line out)
    uses the two outside wires for data, not the two (red/green) inside wires that we use.

    So built meself a little converter and ... phone line back!


    Cheers all

    S.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭zz03


    Originally posted by shurl
    Aha!
    Fixed!

    The line in to the splitter (and also the UK plug line out)
    uses the two outside wires for data, not the two (red/green) inside wires that we use.

    So built meself a little converter and ... phone line back!


    Cheers all

    S.

    Glad you fixed it. The RJ11 standard used in about 50 countries - incl Spain, USA, Canada and Ireland is the two inside pins.

    If it was me I would buy a replacement that didn't need repairs and send this sort of non standard rubbish back to the supplier for a refund.

    If people don't teach them a lesson, they will just go on and on selling rubbish causing problems for customers.


    zz..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,486 ✭✭✭Redshift


    It really bugs me when stuff is sold that is not compatable in the country in which it is sold, I know this is getting a bit off topic but I bought a radio alarm clock last week and I was annoyed to find one of those stupid european plugs that won't go near an Irish outlet on the end of the cord. I know it's little to worry about but I had to make another trip out to buy a plug for it, that in itself doesn't bother me but they might at least have the courtesy to put a sticker on the box stating that the plug supplied is no good that at least would allow you to save time and get a plug while you're there or make another selection if you can't change a plug as some people can't for various reasons.

    BTW Glad you got sorted Shurl
    Ryan:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭shurl


    Cheers zz03

    To be fair to Netgear. It did come free.

    And the comp that I got it from was english

    I was expecting the uk version, most things always come with the UK version.

    Besides gave me something to do :-)


    S.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭ando


    Originally posted by Redshift
    I bought a radio alarm clock last week and I was annoyed to find one of those stupid european plugs that won't go near an Irish outlet

    i bought an electric toothbrush with those european plugs with the 2 metal rods. No problem I taught as I have the same thing on my alarm clock, but this thing must be from south american islands :mad: cause it aint fitting


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