Who makes what?

ballooba

Just thought it would be interesting to see who makes what (in terms of multinationals) and which ones I know about a already.

Heres a start...
BPM - Coca Cola
Powerade - Coca Cola
River Rock Mineral Water - Coca Cola

Anyone know of any more?

pickarooney

www.transnationale.org used to give a complete list of what companies owned what other companies, who had major shares in what etc. Some mad reading, but I think you have to register or even pay to get the info now.

Diageo - Guinness, Burger King, oodles more.
Liliane Bettencourt - L'Oréal, Nestlé, Carrefour supermarkets, some oil company or other.

daveirl

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DerekD Goldfish

Coca cola dont do 7-up. its a competitor to sprite internationaly but they used to have the licence to produce it in ireland becaue 7-up dont have a factory here. they lost the licence to produce it a year or two ago to C&C thats why Club lemon and lime has all but disappeared.

aidan_dunne

I thought it was Pepsico who made 7-Up.

byte

7UP is owned by "Dr Pepper/Seven Up Inc." according to their website.

Makaveli

Yeah but C&C distribute it here.
I dont even remember a club lemon and lime, just club lemon and club rock shandy.

ballooba

I was more interested in the obscure and not so obvious ones..

BPM and Powerade (both by coke) appear to me to be pretty much the same product but marketed differently.

Full list of CocaCola products here ::
http://www2.coca-cola.com/brands/brandlist.html

[edit] coke owns Dr Pepper too btw [/edit]

byte

Yea Coca-Cola own Dr Pepper "in select markets" whatever that means?!

Didn't know that they also have a say in Kia-Ora, Sunkist and more interestingly, Nestle! The Nestle name is stuck on a huge amount of confectionary and indeed I do believe Nestle owns Nescafe

TomTom

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Tusky

Originally posted by irishbyte
Yea Coca-Cola own Dr Pepper "in select markets" whatever that means?!

Didn't know that they also have a say in Kia-Ora, Sunkist and more interestingly, Nestle! The Nestle name is stuck on a huge amount of confectionary and indeed I do believe Nestle owns Nescafe

nestle are evil bastard mega corperation who take over all the best sweeties - i hate them + they keel babies

Yumadin

I was browsing google looking for the makers of Dr. Pepper. Thank guys this site really helped I had no idea Coke made all of those products. I noticed no one is talking about Pepsi products and incase someone wants to know what soda Pepsi puts out well this is what I know... Mountain Dew, Slice, Brisk, Hawiian Punch.. grr I know more just can't think of them right now.

Makaveli

C&C also distribute Pepsi here.

Lump

Coca-Cola make coca-cola...... tee heeeeeee....


Fjuice is made by Coca-cola, Ribena is made by smith Kiln and beecham which I think own quite a lot of drinks making stuff.


John

byte

Yeah, SmithKline Beecham / GlaxoSmithKline make lots of stuff. They also make Lucozade, Macleans toothpaste, Gaviscon, Aquafresh, Horlicks, etc.

See here

imp

Diageo also own Pizza Hut. And KFC aswell, afaik.

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The Sweeper

This "Nestlé kill babies" thing really gets up my nose.

Nestlé do not kill babies.

Nestlé make powered baby formula milk and advertise it in third world countries. The power of western advertising mean that third world mothers believe that this formula milk will be better for their babies than breast milk.

This is untrue, but using formula instead of breast milk wouldn't cause the death of a child. Tens of thousands of first world mothers, for hundreds of different reasons, don't breast feed their babies. They use formula. It doesn't kill their children. Yeah it certainly isn't as benefical to the developing immune system of a child as breast milk but it's not fatal.

What kills babies in the third world is mothers mixing powdered formula with unclean water, water that carries the bacteria that causes typhoid, or even just plain diarrhoea which can kill through dehydration.

So basically, unclean water kills babies. And why do third world mothers not have access to clean water?



...I don't think there's enough space on boards to point the finger of blame at everyone responsible for THAT little miracle...

Victor

Originally posted by ballooba
River Rock Mineral Water

Is this actually mineral water or river water?

weemcd

dam Command and Conquer taking ove the world

nuvolari

coca-cola make those 'oasis' drinks

TRIAX

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels

Nestlé do not kill babies.


What kills babies in the third world is mothers mixing powdered formula with unclean water, water that carries the bacteria that causes typhoid, or even just plain diarrhoea which can kill through dehydration.

So what your really saying is that Nestle contribute to the death of babies.

The Sweeper

...as do first world sanctions on third world governments..

so you vote for people who kill babies.

Assuming you use your vote.

Or that you CAN vote.

nesthead

yeah......Nestlé do kill babies......

Nestlé make powered baby formula milk and advertise it in third world countries. The power of western advertising mean that third world mothers believe that this formula milk will be better for their babies than breast milk.

This is untrue, but using formula instead of breast milk wouldn't cause the death of a child. Tens of thousands of first world mothers, for hundreds of different reasons, don't breast feed their babies. They use formula. It doesn't kill their children. Yeah it certainly isn't as benefical to the developing immune system of a child as breast milk but it's not fatal.

What kills babies in the third world is mothers mixing powdered formula with unclean water, water that carries the bacteria that causes typhoid, or even just plain diarrhoea which can kill through dehydration.

if it werent for Nestlé the mothers wouldnt need to fetch filthy water to mix with that powder crap and therefore the babies wouldnt die of horrible diseases. tbh id say its a lot easier to breastfeed then to go through all that milk-mixing stuff and save money at the same time.

pickarooney

So it just doesn't occur to African mothers that breast-feeding might be an option? No clue in say, 10,000 years of human history and a continent chock-full of mammals as to what those fleshy bags with the nips on might be used for?

Come on...

The Sweeper

Pickarooney, marketing of Western products in the third world is so aggressive that mothers have been known to feed their babies coca cola...

Victor

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
Nestlé make powered baby formula milk ...

[My italics] .... that kills babies.

The Sweeper

Victor, sorry but that's just stupid.

Powdered formula milk sales in the UK are worth £150m annually. So what, mothers spend £150m annually trying to kill their infants?

The formula doesn't kill babies. Get it right.

One of the reasons for using formula milk in the UK and Ireland is that there's many a prude who doesn't approve of a nursing mother breastfeeding her baby in a public place. Which means you and your little 'un may be looking at being house-bound for the first six months while you're feeding. And then there's the entertainment of going back to work while you're still lactating - a friend of mine told me only last week that her boss had a near heart attack when she explained that she'd need somewhere to express milk while she was back working for the first few months.

Only 23% of women in the UK and Ireland are still breastfeeding their babies by month six.

Powered formula manufacturers in Western Africa have been found to be violating international codes when marketing their formula products - however, the reason they are able to do this is that the vast amount of African mothers don't realise the benefits of breast feeding. In addition in countries like Togo there are no legislative laws on how you market something so essentially by pushing their product the formula manufacturers aren't breaking any local law.

In addition to Nestlé, that great bio-dairy producer Danone is also a leading marketer of formula in west African countries.

So why doesn't anybody ever shout "DANONE KILL BABIES!!!"

Because nobody's interested in Danone because they're not the world's biggest food company.

When it comes down to it, Nestlé could sell powdered milk formula products till the end of time in African countries without a single infant casualty if African mothers were properly educated about standards of health, hygiene, cold storage and clean water.

That's why the "Nestlé kills babies" claim annoys me - because it's a gross oversimplification of a far wider issue, it ignores a number of other, more serious factors and it's simply a chance to point a finger at a global corporation and shout abuse before heading home for your tea.

The Sweeper

But to go back to the original question, some examples of who makes what:

Unilever is a good example.

Lever Fabergé was formed in 2001 by the merging of two Unilever companies, Elida Fabergé and Lever Brothers.

Lever Fabergé are the company behind the following:

Cif, Comfort, Domestos, Persil, Surf, Dove, Impulse, Lynx, Organics, Physio Sport, Sure, Timotei, Vaseline Intensive Care and Sunsilk, also Ponds, Lux, Pears and Salon Selectives.

Other brands owned by Unilever through various subsidiaries include:

Ben & Jerrys, Birds Eye, Walls, Carte D'Or, Slimfast, Chicken Tonight, Colemans, Hellmans, Flora, Marmite, Olivio, PG Tips, Pot Noodle, Coleman's Mustard, Knorr, they also do cosmetic fragrances from Nino Cerruti, Karl Lagerfeld and Valentino.


As with most things, just take a peek on the packaging of what food you're eating or product you're using, find the company behind the brand and use the internet to follow the links. It gets interesting pretty quickly...

Some of the branding is less obvious than others - for instance, Nestlé, while recognised as confectionary giants, are also behind:

Herta Frankfurters
Cheerios
Ski Yoghurt
Nescafé
Nesquik
Buitoni Pasta
Perrier Water
Vittel Water


Up to the end of 2001 Crosse & Blackwell were also inside the Nestlé portfolio, until Nestlé sold them to Premier International Foods (Premier Foods UK) - Crosse & Blackwell make:

Branston Pickle
Gale's Honey
Sunpat Peanut Butter
Sarsons Vinegar
Rowntree's Jelly

Premier Foods UK make:

The Lloyd Grossman sauce range
Cadbury chocolate drinks
The Smash range of convenience foods

And most importantly Premier Foods UK supply "Retailer Brands" to all of the major outlets in the UK - inotherwords they're the ones that make the own-brand tinned spaghetti, baked beans, sauces, soups, beverages, tea, spreads, desserts and pickles.

(As a result it's fair to say that things like, for instance, Tesco Baked Beans and Sainsburys Baked Beans might originate with the same manufacturer.)

Lots of what's made over in the UK is shipped to fill the UK stores in Ireland.

Companies in Ireland that do the same sort of thing include Irish Food Processors, (Larry Goodman's baby).

In July in Ireland, the AIBP Group, which owns many of Ireland's largest meat factories, settled a long-running legal dispute with the Department of Agriculture for €3.81m. This dispute referred to the beef intervention crisis in the early 1990s and ended up being settled out of court. The AIBP Group is another of Larry Goodman's babies.

So you see, it's all linked in there...

DapperGent

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
The formula doesn't kill babies. Get it right.

Couldn't agree more.

It was awful difficult trying to explain that to hysterical socialists when I wanted to get the KitKats back into the SU shop in college.

Mongs.

Victor

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
The AIBP Group is another of Larry Goodman's babies.

So Larry Goodman kills babies?

TRIAX

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
The formula doesn't kill babies. Get it right.

Yea, but it does contribute to the death of babies.Your repeditive moan makes out that you work for nestle.. well do ya ?? well.....

The Sweeper

No I don't work for Nestlé.

I just get pissed off with the under-educated culture of dissatisfied finger pointing that causes people who have half a clue to blame the woes of the world on multinational corporations even though the cannot fathom the level of influence that same multinational corporation has on their own life through the creation of employment, investment in their economy and influence on their government.

Nestlé employs almost 230,000 people and have factories or operations in literally almost every country in the world.

Nestlé is the largest food and beverage company in the world, and it's products are available globally. The sale of infant formula in the Third World accounts for less than 1% of Nestlé's business.

I believe Nestlé could do worse than to sponsor a long-overdue programme of education for third world mothers. They can well afford it after all. However I also wonder why the governments of African countries haven't done that already? Could that be because they're busy exploiting their people, money laundering, ordering the mass murder of cultural sub-divisions within their nation and spending as much money as they can get on buying arms from the first world?

I do not believe that boycotting Nestlé's products is a solution. If you have a problem with Nestlé, write them a letter. Every week. Don't refuse to buy their products.

If everyone refused to buy Nestlé's products and they closed down, African mothers would turn to a substitute milk formula product and continue, unaware of the danger, to mix it with dirty water, threatening the lives of their children.

Oh - and there would be 540 factory closures in 82 countries and a cessation of operations that would combine to cause the unemployment of almost a quarter of a million people.

BoyScout

Picking up on a few things that have been said in this thread.

It is easy to point a finger at the large corporations and say that they are to blame.
But has one ever considered the African governments who SHOULD be responsible for supplying clean water to their communities and also educating their communities. OH yes they can't afford it cos all the all the government top dogs have siphoned all the money off and left a poor and staving nation.
Anyone read the news about Mr Chiluba or Mr Mugabe lately?? That happens all the time and these two are just the tip of the iceberg!

And bye-the-bye Western marketing is no where near as aggressive in Africa as it is in the West.

IMHO anyone who wants to solve Africa's problems - OK sorry any one who wants to sit in their armchairs and solve Africa's problems should go an live there for a few years and then come back talking with a bit of experience behind them!

OH and in keeping with the original thread
Kiwi shoe polish - Sara Lee - their biggest seller in Kenya!
And they also had very good sales of Brylcream in certain African countries - apparently it is very good on toast -well according to the locals anyway.

mike65

Originally posted by Victor
So Larry Goodman kills babies?

hmmmm depends on whether the meat gets a better price being
"on the hoof" or not!

Mike.