Aus Grand Prix

irishgeo

So who is staying up to see the new F1 cars in action. i am going to stay up to watch on UTV just to see the cars in action.


i shall stay up to watch the new qualifying and the race as well tonight.

Think i buy a big bottle of coke so i can stay awake most of the night.

I most likely get up or stay up for the race as well. but i usually end up falling asleep.

Schumacher to win it easy conidering all he has to do is steer the car around until the british grand prix.

Will be off for the british grand prix or on during it and off after it.

chernobyl

Originally posted by irishgeo

Schumacher to win it easy conidering all he has to do is steer the car around until the british grand prix.

Right..first i am a little pi$$ed you are implying that he is winning so easy because of the electronic aids (don't the rest of the "also ran's" have these at their disposal too?)

Because of the 2 round, 1 lap per day qualifying system the grids are certainly going to be strange.
I can certainly see Minardi running low fuel loads to run high or even grab the pole just to get some TV time for their sponsors.

Schumacher will earn his victories this year but yes he should win ultimately because he is the best, F1 is completely central on strategy now and Ferrari are best at this and the 2002(b)/2003 - GA are likely to be the best cars on the grid...but it aint over yet. fuk me, it hasnt even begun.

irishgeo

ok i am going a little far but i just cant wait. i wonder how come RTE arent covering the 1st qualfying round.

How are the teams going to go out in qualfying?

I hope the Williams team do well this season.

chernobyl

FIA finalises qualifying procedure

The FIA has finalised how qualifying will be run this year under the new one-lap, two-session rules.

In one of several statements released today relating to the implementation of revised regulations for the new season, the FIA made clear exactly how drivers would qualify and the guidelines teams will have to follow. This season there will be two 60-minute sessions on Friday and Saturday with each driver having one hot lap to post a time.

The procedure will be as follows:

- Each driver will be given 30 seconds to join the track; this will be signalled by the pit exit light turning green. The first green light will be shown at 2:00pm.

- As each driver starts his flying lap, other than those fifth, 10th and 15th in sequence, the pit exit light will be turned green for 30 seconds for the following driver.

- The pit exit light for the sixth, 11th and 16th cars in sequence will be turned green for 30 seconds when the previous car enters the pits after completing three laps. If the fifth, 10th or 15th car in sequence enters the pits before completing three laps the pit exit light for the following car will be turned green one minute later.


Each driver will have 30 seconds to leave the pits to commence his out lap in qualifying this year


Press picture
Source: Nick Raman



- Any driver failing to leave the pits in the allotted 30 seconds, for any reason, will not be permitted to take any further part in that qualifying session. Under these circumstances, the green light for the next car in sequence will be turned on two minutes later.

- If a car stops on its out lap, the green light for the following car will be shown when the stopped car is in a safe place. The driver waiting to go out will be given at least two minutes warning before the lights are turned green to allow him to leave the pits. The stopped driver will not be able to take any further part
in that qualifying session.

- If a car stops on its flying lap red flags will be displayed around the circuit and the other car on the track must enter the pits. Under normal circumstances the pit exit light will be turned green five minutes after the signal to stop was given and the car which returned to the pits will be permitted a further attempt to qualify. The driver who has stopped will not be permitted to take any further part in that qualifying session.
Under these circumstances the car entering the pits may refuel and change tyres, five minutes will also be added to the session time.

- Other than any car required to enter the pits if the session is stopped, any car returning to the pits without completing three laps will not be permitted to join the track again. Any such car will not normally be required in the weighing area or parc fermé.

- If, in the opinion of the stewards, a driver deliberately stops on the circuit or impedes another driver in any way, his qualifying time from the relevant session will be cancelled.

- If one or more cars fail to record a time during the first session they will start their second qualifying session laps in first session order reversed.

- If one or more cars fail to record a time during the second session they will start the race in second session order reversed.

- All cars entering the pits after completing three laps will be required to stop in the weighing area for technical checks. After weighing, the scrutineers will then move the cars to the central FIA parc fermé

- The FIA reserve the right to amend this qualifying procedure should it become necessary in the light of experience.

*As drivers will only be permitted 30 seconds to leave the pits to complete each of their qualifying runs the FIA will permit working in the fast lane of the pits immediately before and during both qualifying sessions.

Cars may only be taken to the pit exit five minutes before they are due to start their qualifying run and, under normal circumstances, we will expect any such work to be restricted to starting the engine and any associated last minute preparation.

For the avoidance of doubt, any car leaving the pits may pass another which is stationary in the fast lane but, all Team personnel working on a car in the fast lane must ensure that other cars are able to leave the pits unhindered.

Dr. Dre

On both stations today, when they were talking about the new qualifying, you would think that it was specifically introduced just to target Ferrari and Schuey, and Martin Brundle said ,as schuey took pole, something along the lines of "well, there you go then, it hasn't worked"

I mean jeez, come on :rolleyes:

I can't wait until the British GP, maybe Schuey will be able to add even more time to the buffer he has in hand over the rest of the competition.

PS: Does anyone actually watch F1 on RTE ? I myself could not bear to. It's ITV for me, although that absolute gos*hite James Allen really annoys me and that other smug to$$er Mark Blunderer.

irishgeo

its itv for me since i got my ftv card as i cant stand the over excited peter collins.

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by Dr. Dre
Does anyone actually watch F1 on RTE ?

only during the ad break on ITV

good race tonight. Raikkonen will be kicking himself. only 1 km/h over the pit lane speed limit. DOH!!! anyway well done to Coulthard and WTF happened to Schumachers Ferrari?

Dr. Dre

and WTF happened to Schumachers Ferrari?

Apparently the barge boards disintegrated !


Can't believe that Coulthard won :rolleyes:

irishgeo

missed the later half of the race as i need some winks. Loved ITV coverage bar one thing. Why did they have ad breaks at 4am in the morning. RTE dont.

I think it was a good race and lots of excitment with some dodgy pit stops and start of season jitters like kimi speeding in pit lane. thats just start of season bugs. The new regulations in regards to fuel loads worked for me.

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by irishgeo
Why did they have ad breaks at 4am in the morning

switching back to ITV to see if the ads were finished they had a caption on screen with ITV1 Back Soon or something like that. so they went to an ad break when there was no ads to show :eek: this was ITV West Country so other regions probably had ads but couldn't they had stayed with the race rather than showing that caption. it would save me from listening to Peter Collins :mad:

Dcully

Totally enjoyed the race,more action than whole of last years season.
Delighted to see Schumacher off the podium for a change,[first time in 2 years a ferrari driver was off it]Raiokinnen and Montoya will be kicking themselves especially Montoya as twice when he was opening a gap out front the safety car came out plus his spin.
Overall it looks good for the season with all the changes.
Mclaren and Williams look stronger than last year.Kimi had a huge fuel load and managed 14th place on grid despite this and the mistake he made.
BTW aint Peter Collins a major pain in the ass on RTE, i mean hes a retired DJ and all of a sudden he thinks hes an expert on F1.Last year on countless ocasions he mouthed off with various comments only to have to eat humble pie later on.
Did you hear him today calling Ralph an arrogant German?
He constantly criticises Coulthard and thinks the sun shines outta Fisicella s ass.What a muppet!
David Kennedy knows his stuff though!

chernobyl

Originally posted by Dcully
Overall it looks good for the season with all the changes.

The weather created a spectacle, not the new rules.
Just remember the last 10 laps, you had 3 drivers within 6 tenth's of each other. Not any 3, but the 3 top drivers. Schumacher was in no position to challenge and Kimmi just followed in Montoya's slipstream..nothing spectacular about that.

Webber is a ****ing idiot in my book and created the need for the safety car. He should have pulled of the track sooner.

Originally posted by Dcully
Mclaren and Williams look stronger than last year.Kimi had a huge fuel load and managed 14th place on grid despite this and the mistake he made.

Kimmi started the race from the pits. After the formation lap he pulled into the pits, switched tyres and fueled up. Mclaren were handed victory..Montoya wont that race..if only on merit.

Originally posted by Dcully
BTW aint Peter Collins a major pain in the ass on RTE,

Agreed.

Originally posted by Dcully
i mean hes a retired DJ and all of a sudden he thinks hes an expert on F1.,

He has been doing this since 95...he has knowledge but he is very dry, but so is his co-host and its ITV and Premiere for me.

Originally posted by Dcully
Did you hear him today calling Ralph an arrogant German?
He constantly criticises Coulthard and thinks the sun shines outta Fisicella s ass.What a muppet!.,

Ralph is arrogant & a sulky babby too.
Coulthard is open to criticism 24/7 in my book.
Fissi...

Originally posted by Dcully
David Kennedy knows his stuff though!

omg.

Kalina

I haven't enjoyed an F1 race so much since 2000. I thought it was eventful and interesting, whether that was down to the new rules or the weather or a combo of both.
Ralph Firman was unfortunate, as were half of the drivers but all made for interesting viewing.
I'm glad DC won the race, it might kick start him a bit this year and we might see him actualy posing a serious threat to Schumacher for the title!

Dcully

1 Can you criticise Coulthard after his win today? I cant!
2 No commentator has the right to call a driver Arrogant live on air.
He only shook his head which hes entitled to do if pitcrew screw up.Tell me any driver who would not shake his head in such circumstances?
3 You say collins has knowledge? IMO he has little ,FFS last year he didnt know who Mika Salo drove for as cover previously for a certain driver and team.This year he didnt know what other series Ralph Firman drove in last year in Japan,
Knowledge?
He is all that RTE can come up with.
David Kennedy drove F1 so he knows more than you or i or Collins,thats what i meant .

chernobyl

Originally posted by Kalina
I haven't enjoyed an F1 race so much since 2000. I thought it was eventful and interesting, whether that was down to the new rules or the weather or a combo of both.

I do! The race was superficially interesting but you just have to think about what happened. It was more comical cóck ups rather than interesting.

Originally posted by Kalina
Ralph Firman was unfortunate,

Far from it. by his own admission he screwed up. DC reported oil on T5 and firman could have opted for that as an excuse but insisted on blaming himself.

Originally posted by Kalina
I'm glad DC won the race, it might kick start him a bit this year and we might see him actualy posing a serious threat to Schumacher for the title!

No it wont and no he wont.

ykt0di9url7bc3

No it wont and no he wont.

handbags at dawn!



Interesting race, but I really miss Walker's commentary, watched most of it on mute last night on RTÈ....I cant cant keep listening to Collins

chernobyl

Originally posted by Dcully
1 Can you criticise Coulthard after his win today? I cant!

Yeah....im a fúcking database for DC criticism, 2'nd only to my aches with Damon Hill.

Originally posted by Dcully
2 No commentator has the right to call a driver Arrogant live on air.

what...what?.....WHAT?
Unfortunately, being a Premiere viewer for 2+ years i have enjoyed RS's interaction's with the press etc and i would'nt call him arrogant but rather a hollow turdy.

Originally posted by Dcully

3 You say collins has knowledge? IMO he has little ,FFS last year he didnt know who Mika Salo drove for as cover previously for a certain driver and team.This year he didnt know what other series Ralph Firman drove in last year in Japan,.

You try talking gibberish for 2+ hours about the action you seen last night..okay, and now try this with the complete lack of action we witnessed all season last year..your brain would numb

I think collins & co are piss poor but he knows more than the casual viewer which is to say he knows a lot[relative].

Originally posted by Dcully
David Kennedy drove F1 so he knows more than you or i or Collins

His illustrious F1 career.. he was a great.

Dcully

Chernobyl i agree with most of what you say but ,
I too am a big critic of DC but how can one criticise a winner of a GP on the day he won it?
must be hard for commentators trying to fill in 2 hrs but in all fairness its criminal not knowing about Salo and Firman i still say hes a muppet.
Regarding Kennedy , he drove F1 so knows about setups,what the driver experiences ,what the driver may be feeling under certain circumstances in a race,and the major point he knows how difficult these machines are to drive ,
Compare that to muppet Collins,thats what im talking about im not saying Kennedy is an expert but hes the closet RTE will get to one plus he is usually right in what he says could happen later on in the race regarding team tactics etc.

Kalina

I agree with Dcully that Kennedy at times makes very valid judgement on team tactics and so on. Collins doesn't really have much of a clue but still he's doing an alright job.
As for DC maybe this year will be the year that he silences his critics and wins the world championship (don't be so sure he won't Chernobyl)... I'd like to see that happen.

Dcully

Id like to see DC win it after Montoya or Kimi but Kimi is young yet plenty of time.
I doubt DC will do it but i seem to remember him beating Schumi fair and square a few times, still doubt it though.
Schumi is still the one to beat.
If Williams are reliable i think montoya has it in him to beat Schumacher he has that no fear factor that Villuneuve had in 97 when he beat Schumi to world title.
Actually ihave an interview of him on UTV on video tape ,when asked how much he wanted the world title [this was the day before last round in Jerez Spain ] his reply was" im willing to kill myself out on that track for it"
That really shook up Schumi and i think JP-Montoya has that Xfactor in his blood also,the guy is fearless.

Woden

i'm such a crap fan i didn't even know the season started til last saturday and missed the qualifying. stayed up for the race though and boy was it worth it best one i've seen in ages. as i'm major anti ferrari and specifically schumacher. I thought kimi was brilliant his defense of michael around the first corners was poor quality michael eating humble pie and some grass.

with regards to michael losing his barge boards he only has his self to blame i don't think they just disintegrated but more fell off due to his little side trip off the track

with regards to the commentary i prefare utv only switching to rte on utv's frequent breaks. though james allen does annoy me sometimes with his

"Right Martin put yourself in the drivers shoes, your in this position" etc...

think there group up in the box though are very good and so is martin brundle

looking forward to malaysia anyway.