Abuse from mods

RicardoSmith · 06-02-2003 1:08pm #1

Bard · 06-02-2003 1:11pm

Originally posted by RicardoSmith
I wonder what the legal position is on this.

There is none.

Riamfada · 06-02-2003 1:13pm

Id like to refer you to my " Our New Gods" Thread. The abuse can get pretty heavy but I dont cry about it. Or loose sleep. But I cant really talk I have been Pm'd by a few Mods telling me to quit my various controvercial sh*te. Anyway No legal standpoint, yer not paying for this. THere is no contract anyone can do what they want here just that the Mod's have they buttons to ban/delete ect ect. Like the Nazis :P GL with the movement ( not the Nazis the "getting mods to relax thing"

The Reaper · 06-02-2003 1:19pm

have 2 live with it nothing u can do about it! keep clear and quite and tats it!

Victor · 06-02-2003 1:23pm

Originally posted by RicardoSmith
I don't see how mods abusing posters

Generally not acceptable, however we do actually live in the real world and mods are just as human as other people. that said, some people draw the abuse on themselves.

Originally posted by RicardoSmith
I don't see how mods abusing posters with cursing and swearing is ok or acceptable.

There is a censor, but ways around it are permitted, once you are inventive (and moderate).

Mercury_Tilt · 06-02-2003 1:23pm

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WhiteWashMan · 06-02-2003 1:34pm

Originally posted by RicardoSmith
The posts I've seen from some mods are neither.

why dont you give us some examples?

amp · 06-02-2003 1:37pm

Since when is cursing against the law? And since when did newbies not curse?

I think Ricardo is just fighting the power for the sake of it.

I can see a movie now with Antonio Banderas playing Ricardo as a man alone fighting a battle against the evil Boards moderators with a beeper.

Ricardo: joo are not fair to the new peeple
Evil Moderator: Prepare the evil cursing!

Ricardo produces the beeper unit

Evil Moderator: Fuc* **** ****** ****!

Ricardo: HAHAHA! COME MY PEOPLE!

The huddled oppressed newbie masses follow Ricardo into the new homeland. A bedraggled CS player approaches Ricardo

CS Player: J0o SAv3r0d us d0oD!! B3 AR nu KINGe!!

Ricardo: No my friend, I must go to the somethingawful forums and battle the might Lowtax.

The camera closes in on CS Player as a tear rolls gently down his face as our hero Ricardo strides off into the sunset on a horse in the general direction of some windmills

Dazzer · 06-02-2003 1:41pm

:rolleyes:

BTW Amp you have WAY too much time on your hands

Asuka · 06-02-2003 1:42pm

I was about to post a slightly shorter version of amps post

It seems theres a lot of 'Fight teh powah' style posts going on today. Ive also already seen two questions about 'legal implications' today. Each one of those I see actually gives me a warm, satisfied feeling, while I wait for somebody who could be bothered to pull out the speech/gathering card relating to privately owned web boards

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TwoShedsJackson · 06-02-2003 1:45pm

Originally posted by RicardoSmith
I wonder what the legal position is on this.

Call Clarence Darrow quickly!! Someone has been insulted on the internet!! A crack team of lawyers is surely what is needed here!!

I have it on good authority that if you are slagged beyone the level of being called 'a total moron who barely has enough brain cells to work out how to breathe', then you could sue them for at least 75c!! Get to it!!

!

WhiteWashMan · 06-02-2003 1:48pm

Originally posted by TwoShedsJackson
Call Clarence Darrow quickly!! Someone has been insulted on the internet!! A crack team of lawyers is surely what is needed here!!

I have it on good authority that if you are slagged beyone the level of being called 'a total moron who barely has enough brain cells to work out how to breathe', then you could sue them for at least 75c!! Get to it!!

!

yeah right.
i dont believe you

moron!

TwoShedsJackson · 06-02-2003 1:52pm

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
yeah right.
i dont believe you

moron!

I'm on the next plane over Kenny, you're a dead man!! I DEMAND SATISFACTION!!!!!

amp · 06-02-2003 2:14pm

With the moderators (and ex-mods) in confused dissarray the newbs rejoiced!

NEWBS: ARE OPREZORS OUR CONFUZED! WE MUST TAKE OVAR TEH BORADS AND SET UP AN COMUNIST ANaRcHY STRUCTIRE WHER TEH FREEE SPAECH IS TEH FREE1 AND We KAN DU WAT WE W4NT!

Ricardo, leader of the newbs, arrives back from Somethingawful forums.

RICARDO: FELLOW NEWBS! I have returned from the battlefield, has anyone got a visa card? It's 15 quid or something to get into SA forums.

NEWBS: UMMM NO! We're only kidz like.

RICARDO: No matter, our victory on boards is not complete.

Suddenly the admins arrive on the scene

LUCUTUS: CRUSH THE REBEL SCUM!
DEVORE: Now, now, I'm sure there's a way to solve this in a diplomatic fashion.
REGI: NOOO!! DEVORES GAY HAIR HAS INFECTED HIS BRAIN!
ECKSOR: CRUSH THE REBEL.. Damnit Lucutus, I wanted to say that.
LUCUTUS: Moron
CLARENCE DARROW: That'll be 75c please.

Gordon · 06-02-2003 2:38pm

(amp test)

Original poster how about giving us some examples as WWM suggests.

Typedef · 06-02-2003 2:41pm

(amp test)

Original poster how about giving us some examples as WWM suggests.

Gordon less with the abuse

you fuker... set my flamebait free

Beruthiel · 06-02-2003 2:51pm

Originally posted by Typedef
Gordon less with the abuse

you fuker... set my flamebait free

LMAO
Typie, please warn me next time you're gonna say something funny, I surrounded by 'normal' people ya know!!

RicardoSmith - cop on, I have been here for a year now and have had no trouble with any mod, abide by the rules or leave/try growing up

GoneShootin · 06-02-2003 3:18pm

why is your ani gif taking it up the ass ?

Mercury_Tilt · 06-02-2003 3:32pm

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Typedef · 06-02-2003 3:33pm

why is your ani gif taking it up the ass ?

Maybe it's just trying to tie it's laces.

*Note: I don't do smilies.

no pun.

amp · 06-02-2003 3:47pm

Ricardo strikes a heroic pose, the orchestra loudens, rising the emotions of the scene

Originally posted by RicardoSmith
When you've all quite finished with the verbal diarrhea. Its quite pathetic.

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Ricardo tightens his smoking jacket and adjusts his monicle

I'm not complaining about the cursing or the fact the some people complain about the "power" (so sad) of the mods. I'm talking specifically about the tirade of off topic abuse you get from some of the mods. Its obvious some of the mods get their jollies from it but not cool, its not funny, its just crap. It drags the topics way off topic. Theres always a few mods which feel they have to add their own "humour" to the thread which the mod then closes as being off topic.

amp, crushed by the fact that Ricardo has called his script writing "crap" murmours weakly:

It might be crap, but it's on topic

You wonder why theres people complaining about various mods? Just look at the crap that has been posted in reply to me thus far.

amp, rises up with a grin on his face.

This has very little to do with you Ricardo, I haven't written anything to you, I've posted to entertain myself. Why else would I reply to this thread? Your arguments, points and comments make no sense and even if they did your very much on your own, therefore this thread is pointless and, as such, maybe used imo for the purposes of inane banter.

Its the big fish little pond syndrome. As for examples just look at amps & Typedef posts. I mean whats the point of that. Its a flame/troll/spam all rolled into one. Thats exactly what I'm talking about.

Show me the flaming in my posts. Where exactly do I troll? Do you know the meaning of the word spam? You don't know what you're talking about so how do expect us to?

As for thats abusive and offensive, well theres was one in particular but i can't find it as its been moved/deleted for some reason.

A courtroom, the camera focus's on the striking features of Ricardo's face

RICARDO: Your Honour, the evidence I was going to use to argue whatever it is I'm complaining about, and I'm not entirely sure what I'm complaining about cos I'm just doing it for the sake of fighting the power, is gone.

And I can't find it. BUT!!! This is obviously a conspiracy by the moderators to CONCEAL THE TRUTH! Whatever that is cos I'm not entirely sure.

JUDGE REGI: CASE DISMISSED! FUCK OFF!!!

scojones · 06-02-2003 3:56pm

Quit complaining. Muppets.

smiles · 06-02-2003 4:14pm

Originally posted by Typedef
why is your ani gif taking it up the ass ?

Maybe it's just trying to tie it's laces.

*Note: I don't do smilies.

no pun.

/me had about 3 heartattacks reading that statement, had to blink repeated before i realised i was reading it wrong.

phew.

<< Fio >>

Typedef · 06-02-2003 4:22pm

*blink* *blink*

... I don't though

amp · 06-02-2003 4:25pm

Originally posted by RicardoSmith
amp.. is.. really.. cool.. and I want.. to.. Be.. like him.. when.. I grow. up

Btw Riccy, what happened to all your posts? Was it a conspiracy?

yellum · 06-02-2003 4:27pm

Mods giving abuse. Never thought I'd live to see the ............

Hobart · 06-02-2003 4:30pm

Ricardo,

As Jim Diamond once might have said "You Should Have Known Better" With intellectuals like 'amp' and 'TypeDef' let loose, what do you expect??

Put your energies else where. In the recent words of an expert "Have a ****" and forget about it.

amp · 06-02-2003 4:39pm

Intellectual? Me? Yeah sure I can see Typedef being called that, what with his big thinky words and all but me? intellectual?...

See Ricardo, this is a better line of attack: If you can't beat 'em, confuse the hell out of them.

And zip yourself up man, that's disgusting.

][cEMAN** · 06-02-2003 4:43pm

Originally posted by amp
Since when is cursing against the law? And since when did newbies not curse?

I think Ricardo is just fighting the power for the sake of it.

I can see a movie now with Antonio Banderas playing Ricardo as a man alone fighting a battle against the evil Boards moderators with a beeper.

Ricardo: joo are not fair to the new peeple
Evil Moderator: Prepare the evil cursing!

Ricardo produces the beeper unit

Evil Moderator: Fuc* **** ****** ****!

Ricardo: HAHAHA! COME MY PEOPLE!

The huddled oppressed newbie masses follow Ricardo into the new homeland. A bedraggled CS player approaches Ricardo

CS Player: J0o SAv3r0d us d0oD!! B3 AR nu KINGe!!

Ricardo: No my friend, I must go to the somethingawful forums and battle the might Lowtax.

The camera closes in on CS Player as a tear rolls gently down his face as our hero Ricardo strides off into the sunset on a horse in the general direction of some windmills

Nice idea but it might infringe on Mad Max 3 copywrite

Talliesin · 06-02-2003 4:44pm

Remember that outside of the board(s) an individual moderates being a mod means absolutely nothing.

GoneShootin · 06-02-2003 4:47pm

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gah...just as i post a reply to his attempt at humour he deletes it.

genius, absolute genius....

</edit

DeVore · 06-02-2003 4:53pm

Why did you delete your post before I had a chance to read it?

If you feel you are right then you should stand by it, regardless of what anyone else says.

We've demodded mods before, I've personally discussed modding styles with many a mod before. They are human too you know, they dont know everything. God knows we dont brief them but you'll get a lot more from them by engaging in DIALOGUE then in by demanding stuff...

Why not try PMing them in a polite and conversational manner. Most mods only snap at posters because they are used to getting abused roundly from time to time themselves.
Its a lot harder then you think...

DeV.

Gordon · 06-02-2003 4:54pm

Originally posted by amp
See Ricardo, this is a better line of attack: If you can't beat 'em, confuse the hell out of them.

Which is exactly the reason why people should bring a single coathanger with them whenever they enter a public place.

amp · 06-02-2003 4:55pm

Originally posted by Talliesin
Remember that outside of the board(s) an individual moderates being a mod means absolutely nothing.

Nonsense, I get better seats in cinemas and discounts off cd's at HMV. Also, if I get another board to mod then I automatically get a free holiday in Spain.

Btw you should see the free cars the Admins got.

P.s. I resent the implication that I'm human.

Hobart · 06-02-2003 5:12pm

Originally posted by Devore
Why did you delete your post before I had a chance to read it?

I think he may have deleted it because it made no sense (I am talking about his last posting not the original Thread Starter). Also As you can see from what has been posted since this thread has started he has had nothing but riddicule and mild abuse. However he is well entilted to post anything he wants, as long as it is an acceptable post.

Originally posted by Devore
They are human too you know

Yep and fallable. I don't think that anybody denies that. It is more the blatant lack of consistency is the problem. I have seen cases where people have been called 'fools' etc... by mods (and in most cases legit) however they are breaking the so called "rules".

Originally posted by Devore
you'll get a lot more from them by engaging in DIALOGUE then in by demanding stuff...

Really. My experience is that you get F**K all by engaging in dialogue with them. And I am not talking about being confromtational with them I am talking about asking them to review/look at an issue that they have made a decision on!

Originally posted by Devore
Why not try PMing them in a polite and conversational manner.

Yea Right. That'll work.

I think you yourself recently posted that you wanted to encourage newbies to the Boards and grow this so-called' community. Well I see nothing here that will attract them. If fact reading this thread would have quiter the opposite effect.

You also said that this is not a democracy. I think you used the analagy of it being your house/front room where you invite people in freely once they play by 'Your' rules. Now that's fair enuf. But as far as I can see your house is getting too matey and it's time to stop the music foor a while and re-lay down the law. And start with the 'in-crowd' because the rest of us seem 2 be ok.

Bard · 06-02-2003 5:19pm

Hobart - not all moderators are the same. There's quite a number of them on these boards and some of them are more lenient and understanding than others. Some, like me, have easier boards to moderate and don't have to 'rule with an iron fish'.

Interesting though that out of your (only) 86 posts so far, quite a large proportion are bitching/complaining. Try to chill out, eh?

[edit]: "fish" above is obviously a typo, but I left it in for the laugh.

amp · 06-02-2003 5:22pm

Ah Hobart, I was just starting to like you and all.

Personally I think we attract a lot of newbies. Some are tossers, some aren't. The tossers get flamed, the non-tossers eventually get accepted into the "in-crowd".

IT'S JUST LIKE REAL-LIFE!

Gordon · 06-02-2003 5:28pm

/me slaps Bard about with a large iron fish

Bard · 06-02-2003 5:33pm

Originally posted by Gordon
/me slaps Bard about with a large iron fish

I'd never have guessed it was a comic strip,...

Gordon · 06-02-2003 5:42pm

and for only $49.......
....
lonestartradingcompany_1681_4092244

DeVore · 06-02-2003 5:46pm

Heres the bit that kills me. I mean, it really kills me.

On every post, I mean EVERY POST ON THIS GODDAMN SYSTEM there is a "report this post" link.

A mail is sent to the board moderator and to the admins.
We review ALL reported posts. We also check to make sure the mod isnt going on a power trip.

Now apparently there is a GREAT PROBLEM with Boards and the Mods and the abuse levels and the noob bashing.

Yet, do you know how many threads have been reported?

None. Not one.

We have (and have had for 2 years) between 10-20 newbies a day. Consistent as clockwork.

Some stay, some find it not their thing.

It always amazes me that while the different boards are moderated by radically different people (and believe me there is no "in" gang, many of our mods cant stand each other)... its always the same names popping up as trouble makers.

DeV.

Mercury_Tilt · 06-02-2003 5:54pm

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][cEMAN** · 06-02-2003 6:02pm

Originally posted by DeVore
Now apparently there is a GREAT PROBLEM with Boards and the Mods and the abuse levels and the noob bashing.

Yet, do you know how many threads have been reported?

None. Not one.

Not true - i've reported mods being abusive to n00bs before. My reply was from the mod of the board (who was the absive one) in an abusive manner.

If the admins received the report I didn't receive a reply from them.

Hobart · 06-02-2003 6:17pm

Originally by Bard Interesting though that out of your (only) 86 posts so far, quite a large proportion are bitching/complaining.

Are you bitching about me bitching?

Originally by Bard
Try to chill out, eh?

Bard I am totally chilled out. I Don't give a flying fish about you, boards, amp (Hang on I'll take that back I love amp and his humerous quips). I have only ever loast sleep once over boards and that was when Kharn banned me from Homour for saying that a joke was crap. And It was crap. In fact:

That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn

There: That's that out of my system.

Originally by Devore
Now apparently there is a GREAT PROBLEM with Boards and the Mods and the abuse levels and the noob bashing.

I have just reported this posting to the Admins/Mods for using the word noob. It should have been nob or F**khead or amp. Plesae try to be clearer.

seamus · 06-02-2003 6:23pm

Originally posted by Hobart
I have only ever loast sleep once over boards and that was when Kharn banned me from Homour for saying that a joke was crap.
I have just reported this posting to the Admins/Mods for using the word noob. It should have been nob or F**khead or amp. Plesae try to be clearer.

FS......sorry lads, this one keeps managing to undo the shackles.

/me tries to coax Hobart out while holding a large white jacket

Come on, come on now.....sssshhhhhh....you'll be much happier when we get you back to Dundrum.....it's OK, the nasty men can't hurt you anymore.....

DeVore · 06-02-2003 6:24pm

Iceman, we got your reported post. We looked at the situation and the history and took no action at the time, deeming no action necessary. I did respond to you're PM at the time and I did look into it.

That was, however sometime ago and only when you personally were kicked from CS.

Oh and hey Hobart... dont take my reasonableness to mean anything other then that I *try* to be a civil person. Something I dont see much of from you. So, if Boards really means so little to you and you couldnt care less about us, then you could solve this "problem" very quickly.

DeV.

Bard · 06-02-2003 6:36pm

Originally posted by Hobart
Are you bitching about me bitching?

Nope.
I was just saying it was (mildly) interesting to see how much of your time you spend doing it is all.

That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn
That Joke was crap Kharn

There: That's that out of my system.

Y'see, part of what I meant by "chill out" was "LET IT GO ALREADY",... but if you really do feel the need to drone on and on, sure, go ahead - knock yourself out :rolleyes:

If you're not interested in being reasonable and civil yourself, then you can't really expect to be able to demand it of others.

If you ARE interested in doing so, then... well... please do.

Thanks

Caesar_Bojangle · 06-02-2003 6:46pm

Quit your jibe talkin turkey.

The legend has it that the more boards to a mod's name the smaller his genitalia is, so this could possibly be the most plausible reason why mods take it out on newbies.

BuffyBot · 06-02-2003 6:48pm

I'm suspect this is going to sound a bit thick...

..but why don't these people, if they have such a big problem with specific mods, just send a PM to one of the admins? Are they scared of them?

theciscokid · 06-02-2003 6:53pm

i hope these troublemaking board users are singled out and dealt with,

i'm not the bad guy am i?

Gavin · 06-02-2003 8:59pm

You are a newbie and arrive try out this sytem your mate mentioned to you. You post something and the mod gives out to you for whatever reason. rtfm, search the board, search google etc.

Being a newbie, do you complain about the mod to the other people in charge of the board whom from your pov are probably buds of the admins, that's assuming they even know the difference between mods and admins ? Odds are you probably won't complain, you'll either write up a snotty reply, or just say **** this and not bother come back.

3 mates that I've encouraged to use the board have had this experience from various moderators, or else actually been intimidated from posting from reading such stuff.

It _is_ a problem. I don't really know what the solution is apart from making an attempt to keep the old boys network/sarcasm/general abuse to private boards.

But to contradict myself, I enjoy abusing posters that have been here a good while and post something stupid. *shrug* I don't know the answer. Give newbies slack in general I suppose.

Gav, the rambling man.

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