We told you so!

pork99

SMEs Slow In E-Commerce Development

"O'Connor does highlight the improvement that's needed if the benefits of broadband are to be fully realised.

"Although broadband is being offered to certain regions in Ireland, it needs to be available nationwide for users to reap the benefits and for Ireland to compete effectively with our European counterparts," he said."

not to mention price

Cant find mention of the following anywhere except in AIB business news, maybe someone with an Irish TImes or Indo account can get more;

Ireland falling behind in e-ambitions

"Both Dublin and Ireland are falling behind in the race to become an international hub for e-commerce, according to a new report from the Dublin Chamber of Commerce.

The report, which updates a previous benchmarking exercise carried out in 2001, shows that while there has been some progress on the development of Ireland's e-capability over the past year, that pace of development has not kept pace with our competitors.

As such, both Dublin and Ireland are falling behind in terms of our competitive advantage as a leading location for e-commerce activities. The report reveals that Dublin now ranks 13 out of 14 among international cities that have positioned themselves as leading e-cities.

The report also shows that there is now an urgent need to develop a comprehensive and coherent national plan to develop e-commerce and other e-based activities, supported by high quality e-infrastructure.

According to the Chamber, the development and implementation of this plan can be delivered through a Stakeholders Group, along the model of the group operating in the UK."

Dustaz

Originally posted by pork99
["Both Dublin and Ireland are falling behind in the race to become an international hub for e-commerce, according to a new report from the Dublin Chamber of Commerce.

I just cant believe that there is still people who subcribe to the whole e-hub idea. Even the politicians seem to have given up on that tack.

Nice to see the press finally catching on to some of the basic truths of the situation and not the spin tho.

spongebob

This ingenious strategy whereby we go down the plughole because we Ourselves left the tap on....is the by now world famous E-Tub of Europe ®®©® strategy. Nobody else is within a whisker of catching the E-Tub. Aren't we great.

Alfie may have been a secret DUP member all along ??

Other countries look at us and ask themselves, "HOW do they do it" ??!!?????!?

Nothing on the Dublin Chamber website but there is a bit on the Business and Finance website.

pork99

DCC story also here

http://www.online.ie/business/latest/viewer.adp?article=1926855

(in case theres a session variable or something in the AIB url)

This ingenious strategy whereby we go down the plughole because we Ourselves left the tap on

The annoying thing is that 2 years ago anyone could have told them this was going to happen given the way Eircom, Esat, ODTR etc were carrying on

BigEejit

Dublin Chamber Of Commerce finally notices that Dublin has feck all broadband shocker!!

Mountjoy Mugger

Taken from the I.T. website:

Dublin is falling behind in the race to become an international hub for e-commerce, a new report from the Dublin Chamber of Commerce stated today.

The report reveals Dublin now ranks 13th out of 14th among international cities that have positioned themselves as leading e-cities.

Mr Declan Martin, director of policy for the Chamber of Commerce, said the report "starkly illustrates that the Government needs to address Ireland's e-capability as a matter of priority".

The Chamber of Commerce is calling on the Government to appoint a chief information officer to ensure a consistent IT strategy and use of the Internet across all sectors of Government and public administration.

Mr Martin added: "Despite the appointment of a Minister with responsibility for this area, there is still no clearly identified Government strategy to position Dublin as an e-hub".

The report also recommends the strategy should involve a "Stakeholders' Group" consisting of Government departments, the telecom operators, and business.

The report outlines recommendations to generate greater use of e-commerce activities through tax incentives and to remove VAT from high quality-broadband communication services.

pork99

I hope stories like that are bringing us to the stage where any Govt Ministers or IDA people who are going abroad and pitching to get tech companies to come here are having to answer a lot of embarrassing questions about crap infrastructure, overpriced broadband etc

That might learn 'em

BoneCollector

The annoying thing is that 2 years ago anyone could have told them this was going to happen given the way Eircom, Esat, ODTR etc were carrying on

What do you mean Could have!?
We where telling them, they just would not take there head out of the sand to listen, and probable only now getting it out of there ears.

zynaps

The report also shows that there is now an urgent need to develop a comprehensive and coherent national plan to develop e-commerce and other e-based activities, supported by high quality e-infrastructure.

It's high e-time we had an e-look at the e-state of things.
Perhaps if we e-prefix our e-words with the letter e, things will appear more e-promising and less e-backwards.

McHow's that for a McGreat McIdea?

It's amazing what a simple "e-" has done to pull the wool over the eyes of much of the public, and more importantly politicians.
Then again, maybe they e-knew exactly what's been going on...

zynaps

pork99

other e-based activities

Perhaps theres some confusion with the "bad" type of e - the type which has to be supressed

Originally posted by BoneCollector
What do you mean Could have!?
We where telling them, they just would not take there head out of the sand
to listen, and probable only now getting it out of there ears.

Yes its an uphill struggle - perhaps it would help to reprint that DCC report in 6 ft tall letters over a series of 32 sheet billboard posters for them?

Perhaps rewriting it in words of no more than 2 syllables would also help? Failing that getting through perhaps a talented illustrator could explain it to them in pictures.

But seriously even though internet connectivity is central, I suppose there are other factors in Ireland's relative decline as an "e-hub" for example the poor state of road and rail infrastructure and high costs for mediocre goods and services.

Hannibal_12

Originally posted by pork99

But seriously even though internet connectivity is central, I suppose there are other factors in Ireland's relative decline as an "e-hub" for example the poor state of road and rail infrastructure and high costs for mediocre goods and services.

Thats very true. Its one facet of a much larger problem.
For Dublin to seriously position itself as an E-Hub against somewhere like London,Berlin etc is frankly ludicrous given our current state.
Of course this will not dissuade the polticians and others from throwing around the e's (of all sorts no doubt) as they continue to live in perpetual denial.

Stonemason

They are labouring under the illusion that because geographicaly ireland stands between the U.S.A and europe then sure they have to come to us some time right !!!! .
Perhaps they thought just because the cables pass through ireland then magicaly ireland would somehow bloom into this wonderfull petrol station on the internet highway.They are only now waking up to fact we are more like one of those fellas with a wagon selling spuds on the side of the road , sept we dont have the spuds .