English FTV card

muffinhead

If I obtained an english ftv, would I get all the following channels:

BBC1
BBC2
BBC Choice
BBC News 24
BBC Parliament
BBC Four
CBBC
Cbeebies
ITV1
CNN
Channel 4 plus S4C and S4C2
Channel 5
BBC (Radio 1-3, 4FM and LW, 5 Live, 5 Live Sports Extra, World Service, Radio Scotland, Radio Wales, Radio Ulster, Asian Network
Classic FM
Classic Gold
The Mix
Planet Rock
Core
Virgin Radio
Capital Gold
Xfm
Youthfm.com
Heart FM
WRN Euro Max


Would I still get the Irish channels (RTE, TV3, 2FM, Radio 1, etc)???

Would I have to have the digibox connected to the phone line to get the card activated?

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by muffinhead
Would I still get the Irish channels (RTE, TV3, 2FM, Radio 1, etc)???

Would I have to have the digibox connected to the phone line to get the card activated?

you would get Irish radio, no television though

i had no phoneline connected and mine got activated with no problems

carrolls

From Feburary onwards you will have Sky One Mix, FTN, Sky Sports News, TMF, The Hits on the FTV card.

Mossy Monk

with these channels going FTV, is there any hope of ITV 2 ever following suit. it would be handy for the Champions League. with Sky getting the most of the games from next season it will still leave 1 game not being available without a UK sub or Freeview reception unless TV3 show it

Charles Slane

Originally posted by carrolls
From Feburary onwards you will have Sky One Mix, FTN, Sky Sports News, TMF, The Hits on the FTV card.

carrolls,

Did you get this info from your friend in Montrose (who told you that BSkyB had been given the go-ahead to switch on UTV and Channel 4 in the Republic some time in October 2002 ), or was it from the report on http://skydigital.mediabullet.co.uk/ ?

If it's from the mediabullet site, do you know if there's been any other support for the story ? (I know that some people make fun of the mediabullet site, but I find it generally to be very informative).

Given that Sky One Mix are showing a lot of Sky One's programming a day later, I'd have thought there would have been rights issues and increased costs with regard to showing the likes of Enterprise on a Free to View basis.

The other channels mentioned shouldn't have much of a problem going FTV, but Sky One Mix will either need to change it's programming or pay more money for it.

byte

Well, Sky One Mix, TMF, The Hits, etc are already FTA on Freeview DTT so I dont think it'll cost any more to make them FTV on satellite.

carrolls

Charles
Source: Simon Ough of Sky Television via MediaBullet.

BTW how's your "Campaign for BBC3, 4, News 24 and BBC Radio in Ireland" coming along.

Charles Slane

Originally posted by carrolls
Charles
Source: Simon Ough of Sky Television via MediaBullet.

BTW how's your "Campaign for BBC3, 4, News 24 and BBC Radio in Ireland" coming along.

Ouch !!

Well the campaign thread has been "un-stickied" and allowed to spiral to the depths of the forum. I was one of the people to suggest that it be allowed to die a natural death, as it was not achieving it's goal.

In the end I suppose it was a triumph of realism over wishful thinking.

Although it must be said that it was aspirational from the start, and it never actually claimed that the BBC digital channels were imminent on Irish Sky digital :D

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by irishbyte
Well, Sky One Mix, TMF, The Hits, etc are already FTA on Freeview DTT

i didn't know Sky One Mix was on Freeview

muffinhead

does the bbc/itv you receive on English FTV depend on the region you order the FTV card from? Or can you select the bbc/itv region you'd like to receive?

muffinhead

If I subscribe to sky family pack would I receive the Irish channels as well as English BBC & ITV (with an English FTV card)?

DMC

Originally posted by carrolls
Source: Simon Ough of Sky Television via MediaBullet.

Would this be the same Simon Ough of UKRadio.com, Youthfm.com and E! Entertainment ??

I think a call of shenanigans is due. I wonder is this lad's middle initial is C. ... ?

Being the first with news about Sky Digital, as we know, is great. But rumours start, and sprout legs and people start believing them. I've no problem with people putting up rumours here for discussion, but for me, and this forum, any information on independent sites has to be taken with a big bag of salt, not just a pinch. These sites thrive on rumours, whether true or false, and hence all the confuzzillment. Some sites earn good names, like Digital Spy, but most of the rumours that they have are confirmed or denied very quickly, often before they reach their main news site.

And carrolls, for everyone sakes, if you throw up something like that, and you don't initially say where you sourced the info from, I or others here will have no problem in blitzing your post. You haven't a good track record, as Charles pointed out, so to "keep it real", just be careful in future. This is not a warning or a rebuke, not in the slightest, more something to watch out for. The more accurate and informed your posts are, the more this forum and its contributors will perceive you to be a poster with a good reputation. It can take a hundred posts to build a reputation, but only one to knock it down.


Damo.

DMC

Oh, one more thing. The "Campaign" thread. That was an effort by a lot of people on this forum to make a positive change and improved choice for all Irish subscribers. It didnt work, the views of broadcasters won't change. But I admire those who did their bit for that thread, sent e-mails and phoned all the TV companies and broadcasters, and posted their efforts here. Thanks. We tried. And the efforts will be well remembered in the future. But that is not worthy of a low blow or a cheap shot in my book. :mad: :mad:

DMC

Originally posted by muffinhead
does the bbc/itv you receive on English FTV depend on the region you order the FTV card from? Or can you select the bbc/itv region you'd like to receive?

Yes, it does depend. Your FTV card is postcoded, to what ever BBC and ITV Region you get your card from. So, if you got a card from Edinburgh, for instance, 101 will be BBC 1 Scotland, 102 BBC 2 Scotland, 103 Scottish TV. You cannot select different ITV or BBC 1 regions on the EPG, but you can manually tune in the ITV regions using other channels, and view regional BBC 2 Scotland, Wales, national England and NI, from channel 960 onwards. You currently cannot tune into BBC 1 regions, however.

DMC

Originally posted by muffinhead
If I subscribe to sky family pack would I receive the Irish channels as well as English BBC & ITV (with an English FTV card)?

Yes, all you would have to do is swap the cards. With that setup, you would'nt loose BBC 1 NI, as that would be on an Irish subscription.

HTH,

Damo.

byte

Originally posted by Mossy Monk
i didn't know Sky One Mix was on Freeview

Yup, the main reason for its launch. It's because of this that you dont see some of Sky One's more popular programming, most notably The Simpsons due to rights issues.

carrolls

I apologise if I annoyed Charles or you Damo, but it does seem I get ambushed by Charles every time I post something.
The news on UTV and CH4 didnt come true. But it was the only time I posted information that subsequently didnt come true (For whatever reason).
I my opinion, that was a lot less damaging than bombarding the UTV, Granada or BBC contact addresses demanding that for example "UTV should be put onto the Irish EPG instead of "Other Channels". ZAP goes all ITV regions.
Or "If BBC 6 is on the EPG why can't you put '5 live' on". ZAP goes BBC 6.
The bottom line is the guys running the British TV companies don't like being told how to run their companies by
semi-anonymous e-mailers.

lawhec

Sky One Mix isn't on Freeview. The three Sky channels are Sky Sports News, Sky News and Sky Travel.

Just on an aside, here.
I do remember that at the time freeview was first mooted,it was suggested that a slimmed down version of sky one would be on it, ie probably what is now sky one mix.

If that and a very limited selection of "satelite" channels are on freeview, it would make perfect sense for Sky to have the same channels FTV on the BBC card.
Mainly because,they would still prefer viewers to pick Sky digital, as opposed to freeview, as the viewer with the sky box might eventually be tempted enough at least to slide up to a family pack subscription.
Less chance of them being as easily persuaded when they have freeview.
Sky one mix being FTV on a bbc card Vs no Sky one mix on freeview makes sense when you look at it that way.
Oh $ky , they do like the best of both worlds...
mm

Charles Slane

Originally posted by carrolls
I apologise if I annoyed Charles or you Damo, but it does seem I get ambushed by Charles every time I post something.
The news on UTV and CH4 didnt come true. But it was the only time I posted information that subsequently didnt come true (For whatever reason).
I my opinion, that was a lot less damaging than bombarding the UTV, Granada or BBC contact addresses demanding that for example "UTV should be put onto the Irish EPG instead of "Other Channels". ZAP goes all ITV regions.
Or "If BBC 6 is on the EPG why can't you put '5 live' on". ZAP goes BBC 6.
The bottom line is the guys running the British TV companies don't like being told how to run their companies by
semi-anonymous e-mailers.

carrolls,

Sorry if it seems that I'm ambushing you, I really wasn't aware that I seemed to be having a go at you all the time. I'm sorry if you got that impression because I always enjoy reading your posts (even if I might disagree the odd time).

In my own defence I will say that I never e-mailed anyone demanding that UTV be put on the EPG - I was perfectly happy to have all the ITVs on "Other Channels" (in fact I'd prefer just about any other ITV channel to UTV). I only e-mailed AFTER the ITVs were taken off.

I've also never e-mailed anyone anonymously, I just don't see the point. I wouldn't take any notice of an anonymous e-mail, so why should anyone else. (Check out my username - nothing anonymous there).

I hope you'll accept my apology for appearing to be on your case, and we'll get on with the usual info and debate that we come here for.

Peace ?

carrolls

I second that emotion Charles.

DMC

Originally posted by carrolls
I apologise if I annoyed Charles or you Damo, but it does seem I get ambushed by Charles every time I post something.
The news on UTV and CH4 didnt come true. But it was the only time I posted information that subsequently didnt come true (For whatever reason).
I my opinion, that was a lot less damaging than bombarding the UTV, Granada or BBC contact addresses demanding that for example "UTV should be put onto the Irish EPG instead of "Other Channels". ZAP goes all ITV regions.
Or "If BBC 6 is on the EPG why can't you put '5 live' on". ZAP goes BBC 6.
The bottom line is the guys running the British TV companies don't like being told how to run their companies by
semi-anonymous e-mailers.

No worries carrolls, we're all grand now.

I actually think it was more the gimps who advertised on leaflets and shop notices that UTV was on "other channels" caused the harm, and in the end, caused its blocking because Chorus, NTL and not forgetting TV3, got the hump.

Icehouse

According to the ITVT update I received in my mailbox, Sky are planning to launch a competitor to Freeview, ie more free channels on Digiboxes. Where ITVT took their info I don't know, but generally they don't BS. It's good news if it comes to pass anyways. As for Freeview, Sky are supposed to be working on a new Channel for it, wand when it's ready for launch, if I remember correctly, it will replace Sky Travel. That said now that the Broadcasting Commision have relaxed their rules on Muxing, Sky may be able to launch more channels on Freeview (They (BBC/Freeview) now have reportedly the right to have both higher and lower powered muxes on Freeview, thus are no longer limited to just 24odd stations)

lawhec

As for Freeview, Sky are supposed to be working on a new Channel for it, wand when it's ready for launch, if I remember correctly, it will replace Sky Travel.

This is the mooted "Channel 6" but it is some time off yet if it ever comes to fruition, perhaps a few years.

That said now that the Broadcasting Commision have relaxed their rules on Muxing, Sky may be able to launch more channels on Freeview (They (BBC/Freeview) now have reportedly the right to have both higher and lower powered muxes on Freeview, thus are no longer limited to just 24odd stations)

Under the BBC/Crown Castle licence Sky are not permitted to have more than three channels spread across MUxs B, C & D in the UK. Also the recent ITC ruling is not on high or low power multiplexes but that the dual transmission 16 & 64 QAM transmission mode is being allowed to continue to satisfy pleas from ITV, Channel 4 and SDN who wanted to maintain the 64QAM standard on their multiplexes. Don't expect Freeview to switch back to that mode any time soon - the soildness of the coverage using 16QAM is a lot better and ATM they still can't find broadcasters to fill all the space they have.

As for the "Sky Freeview" plan it's certainly possible but it also begs the question that what do the likes of TMF and the Hits have encryption for? Copyright surely would not be a problem there. Also forget about ITV2 being part of that fantasy lineup - unless Sky pay them millions and that won't happen.