I don't beliiiiive it!

mike65 · 01-01-2003 10:52pm #1

Another ship has hit that sunken car transporter in the Channel!

Someone will have to erect an accident blackspot sign!

Mike.

Lump · 01-01-2003 11:49pm

/me has an image of one of those "55 People have been killed on roads in the Channel this year" Signs.......

John

HE HE HE

daveirl · 02-01-2003 1:53am

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Lump · 02-01-2003 2:23am

How stupid can captains of ships be so stupid. Would it not be an Idea to put a string of ligths on bouys around the ship???

John

sceptre · 02-01-2003 2:25am

Angels and Ministers of Grace, defend us - another one?

Getting to the stage where it just might be safer to blow the thing up.

There's a bleedin beacon there FFS - does no-one look where they're driving (er, sailing, whatever) any more?

Barry Aldwell · 02-01-2003 3:48am

Originally posted by Lump
How stupid can captains of ships be so stupid. Would it not be an Idea to put a string of ligths on bouys around the ship???

The ship is sticking out of the water! It'd have to be a moonless night with high seas for it not to be visible.

Panda · 02-01-2003 5:02am

sofa king wee todd did (say aloud)

still tho it is a busy route and i'd say i takes a while for massive tankers like those to swerve...

still "wee todd did" tho.

Snowball · 02-01-2003 5:13am

dont they have underwater radar??, i thought that they had radar so they could see below them?? ****ing muppets

Celt · 02-01-2003 5:17am

Originally posted by Snowball
dont they have underwater radar??, i thought that they had radar so they could see below them?? ****ing muppets

It's called sonar.

rymus · 02-01-2003 10:01am

so I take it from this information that the coast guard has stopped marking the area?

Darwin Awards anyone?

TomTom · 02-01-2003 3:00pm

I'm baffelled by this too, I see the pictures off it on the news, even at night there is a glare from the moon off the sunken ship. You would have to be locked or blind not to see it.

Clintons Cat · 02-01-2003 3:33pm

well the main reason is that to change course takes a medium sized ship somewhere between 1/4 mile and a mile,so by the time any one spots it its probally to late to take evasive action.
Most crews an frieght are comprised of sailors from the third world a lot of phillopeanos,chinese indians ect
AFAIR both the British and French are putting out alerts in French and english,trouble is unless an english speaking officer is on the bridge chances are the foriegn speaking crews will fail to understand the significance of the warning message.
Probally the maritime industry needs to come up with an internationally recognised call signal (like SOS) for instances like this.

seamus · 02-01-2003 4:39pm

Yeah, I chuckled a bit when I saw it last night. Ridiculous. Surely the company who owns the vessel can be fined for every day longer than 1 week it's left there? Imagine crashing your car and leaving it in the middle of the road for a month. The Gardai'd kill ya.

Corega · 02-01-2003 5:27pm

"It is off and is moving towards a position a mile off where it will drop anchor."

Where another ship will crash into it..............idiots.

Moriarty · 02-01-2003 6:01pm

Originally posted by Corega
Where another ship will crash into it..............idiots.

Yes... as opposed to bringing it into a nearby port and having the 70,000tons of explosive fuel it is carrying - and slowly leaking - detonate and turn everything within a square mile to air pollution. What idiots. :rolleyes:

mike65 · 02-01-2003 6:25pm

I suspect these collisons are not accidental, imagine if you will
an e-mail going the rounds between ship captains challenging
each other to sit on top of the sunken vessel by hitting it at low-tide and then seeing who can stay on longest before high tide lifts them off again!

Okay thats just silly but no sillier than hitting a very big orange vessel which everyone knows is there...:rolleyes:

Mike.

franco · 02-01-2003 7:45pm

Sailors all got pissed on new years night and put the ship on auto pilot for the day meguesses.

col_nicholson · 02-01-2003 8:12pm

Slow down boys

Stephen · 02-01-2003 8:42pm

Originally posted by col_nicholson
Slow down boys

Hahaha, that'd be a great caption for a photo of the incident.

Snowball · 03-01-2003 12:38am

Originally posted by Stephen
Hahaha, that'd be a great caption for a photo of the incident.

lol, dont think they would like that

po0k · 03-01-2003 6:50am

Originally posted by franco
Sailors all got pissed on new years night and put the ship on auto pilot for the day me guesses.

Actually, that mightn't be too far off the truth.
The plotted course might not have been updated due to lack on info etc..
And all of ye on about how hard it is to miss it, ships aren't guided by a bearded oul lad up in the bridge behind a big wheel munching donw some fish fingers any more.
Much more point 'n click then that

col_nicholson:
Slow down boys

gg shots rofl pld

azezil · 03-01-2003 6:03pm

i nearly fell of my chair when i heard it, how stupid can ya be... :rolleyes:

Clintons Cat · 03-01-2003 10:59pm

Actually, that mightn't be too far off the truth.
The plotted course might not have been updated due to lack on info etc..
And all of ye on about how hard it is to miss it, ships aren't guided by a bearded oul lad up in the bridge behind a big wheel munching donw some fish fingers any more.
Much more point 'n click then that

You would be suprised.
A mate of mine is second officer on a merchant frieghter.
Of the seventeen philipeanos under him only one (the interpreter speaks english)
It is not uncommon for them to take evasive action based upon VISUAL sightings especially in the channel,point being it is hell of a lot harder to spot a submerged obstruction than it is a surface ship.

As for Sonar and Global Positioning Sattelite...
forget about it

thanks to the nature of maritime shipping and flags of convienience they are lucky if they've got enough fire extinguishers

Snowball · 03-01-2003 11:31pm

Originally posted by Clintons Cat
... they are lucky if they've got enough fire extinguishers

Captin, the bow of the **** has cought fire.

RING THE FIRE BELL and get the extinguishers!

Sorry cap, bell's gone and we have 2 fire extinguishers .... we have sauseges though

This is your captin speaking, abandon ship or get to the bow with BBQ sauce

[edit] its not really funny but hey!, I'm tired ffs[/edit]

ArwenEvenstar · 06-01-2003 3:06pm

Well to be honest, sonar on most of these ships aint the greatest.
But there is actually a ring of fluorescent buoys floating around the sodding wreck, and a tug boat of some kind in the area as well.
Plus, the ship is submerged, so you'd have to be pretty close to see the water breaking. And what are the chances, given the number of crew normally on lookout....

All I can think of, is that if sooo many ships run into each other there....how many scrape the paint off each other in a near miss?!!?!?

The mind boggles...

Victor · 06-01-2003 4:01pm

Originally posted by ArwenEvenstar
Well to be honest, sonar on most of these ships aint the greatest.

Actually very few merchant ships have sonar. Only fishing, research and salvage vessels would. And sonar isn't very good in 10-20m of water (bottom echo).

Runfree · 06-01-2003 4:56pm

Originally posted by Lump
How stupid can captains of ships be so stupid. Would it not be an Idea to put a string of ligths on bouys around the ship???

John

Thats what I dont get. If they mark the site atleast the captain off other ship should be able to avoid the area you would think.

I don't beliiiiive it!

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