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Cannabis linked to depression

  • 22-11-2002 8:07pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭


    Cannabis linked to depression

    From: The Irish Independent
    Friday, 22nd November, 2002
    SMOKING cannabis increases the odds of suffering from depression and schizophrenia, a new study has found.

    A survey of 1,037 people in New Zealand found that those who began using cannabis as teens were four times more likely to suffer from psychiatric problems as adults than adolescents who did not use the drug.

    The occasional joint may not be harmful, but people who smoke in their teens have a higher risk psychiatric disorders later on.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Thats another of those "widely known facts that are proved by science" like the fact that staring at women's breasts is good for you and if you are fat your child has a 40% chance of being fat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭DiscoStu


    Dude......that makes me.........erm sad.....yeah sad......huh huh. cool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 colorado


    Originally posted by Victor
    Cannabis linked to depression

    From: The Irish Independent
    Friday, 22nd November, 2002
    new study?its been widely known for years now


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    well im just after smoking and I am anything but depressed

    hehehe

    sorry for the spam, I suck :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Chaos-Engine


    and of course drinking alcohol does less damage???

    And what about sex?

    Babes and STDs...


    No thanks. Not for me. I'll never smoke cannabis again. ;)

    The USA cause more depression to me than cannabis ever will. Not to mention others that I don't even know. Where as my own depression could only damage myself and those connected to me


    Too much of anything is damaging.
    Do you remember that Coke makes your teeth rot propoganda?
    Well if you leave a tooth that fell out of someones head in a glass of coke for a few days I hope it will do something.!!! Hell lets all stick to inert gas. It can't cause any sort of bio-chemical reaction...


    Cannbis solves more problems than it creates. I wonder why The Netherlands is the most productive country in the EU and OCED for that matter...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Wook


    you can't beat a good depreesion once in ahwile :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    For some reason I don't hold too much faith in that study. Although I must say I'm a bit of a psychopath, but my philosophy is insane until proven sane. So I figure everyone has psychiatric disorders as it stands. I'm talkin shíte here, so I'll stop. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭Kone


    What doesn't cause depression in this crazy world we live in!

    :D


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    from my own extensive studies on the matter, I would say that it actually helps you get through depression and the down times - I recall two particular periods of my life where it was the only thing that kept me sane!


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    I am shocked and appalled.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Offy


    I must be the most depressed person here so, if thats the case what is happiness? I've been deceiving myself for years now doh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭Space Coyote


    Ye know I think there may be worse things that can cause depression - like life for starters! Hmm...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Like anything else, too much does tend to go to (or take from) your head...when ya dont go too mad its grand...unfortunately id tend towards being one of these 24 hr stoners...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Shad0r


    Originally posted by Wook
    you can't beat a good depreesion once in ahwile :)

    lol. I concur. Its good craic like going and getting depressed with some mates now and again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭festivala


    I think you're all mixing up Depression - which is an illness, with feeling depressed, which everyone suffers from now and again.

    They ARE NOT THE SAME THING.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭Ajnag


    Better outlaw Radiohead then.......................................


    **** it! I feel like burning some books.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭Typedef


    Here is a link to newscientist on this topic : http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/schizophrenia.jsp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭Ajnag


    2 of the 3 studies quoted seemed to have age as a critical factor, both giving evidense that use of cannabis during adolesence would appear to contribute to depression and schizophrenia.However that cannabis is potentialy harmfull to fully developed adults isnt shown or proven.

    Now any mentally capable adult would fully agree that no drugs of any kind should be available to under 18s, so is it better that under prohibition that unlike a licenced seller a dealer has no qualms about age to sell to kids as young as 10?

    If cannabis were legalised and regulated, underage use and abuse could be dramaticaly reduced, unlike as is the case with the current status quo.For those who dont belive this check out the dutch stats: www.minvws.nl/documents/gvm/Rapport/drugs-progress-eng.pdf

    also in relation to drugs in general, the irish have a long colourful history with the use of alcohol and even ether (highest consuming country in 1885 I think), now are you gonna tell me theres been a low incidence of depression and suicide in this country.Irish young men have the highest rate of suicide in europe, which just happens to coincide with the height of the recent drinking culture.what were you saying about cannabis uhh emm yeah!

    Im off to a coffey shop.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Originally posted by Ajnag
    If cannabis were legalised and regulated, underage use and abuse could be dramaticaly reduced, unlike as is the case with the current status quo.For those who dont belive this check out the dutch stats:

    I have seen Dutch police at work, they make a big deal over a stolen bicycle. it wasn’t me :)

    it works there, it wont work in Ireland!

    or maybe it will, just like how we have little to no under age drinkers or smokers :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 517 ✭✭✭hacktavist


    Did you know alcohol is also a depressant?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Yes but a depressant isn't the same thing as something that causes depression.

    Depressants afaik are drugs that suppress certain chemical receptors in a bodies system as opposed to making one feel depressed. Just because something is a depressant doesn't mean it makes you depressed, it just supresses connections. (I could be wrong though)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭rien_du_tout


    Like any drug, misuse and abuse has bad effects on people. Hold on, arent there drugs for depression! Yep that's the solution a new superdrug of prozac and cannabis! Coming to a dealer near you soon......


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 729 ✭✭✭popinfresh


    Bah it's a load of rubbish, too much of anything makes you depressed. All these surveys are biased anyways. For example, they say one joint is as harmful as seven cigarettes. But that's only because the tobacco ( which is legal ) in the joint is not filtered. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭festivala


    Originally posted by popinfresh
    Bah it's a load of rubbish, too much of anything makes you depressed. All these surveys are biased anyways. For example, they say one joint is as harmful as seven cigarettes. But that's only because the tobacco ( which is legal ) in the joint is not filtered. :rolleyes:

    Again, felling depressed has nothing whatsoever to do with clinical depression.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭Graemo


    Doobage will get you through times of no money better then money will get you through times of no Doobage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭Graemo


    I'm stoned right now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭logic1


    Originally posted by Graemo
    Doobage will get you through times of no money better then money will get you through times of no Doobage.

    A fabulous furry freak brothers fan?

    .logic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Wook


    In other news..another report..(once again)...


    Study: Marijuana May Not Lead to Hard Drugs
    Mon December 2, 2002 05:53 PM ET
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Casting doubt on a basic principle of U.S. anti-drug policies, an independent study concluded on Monday that marijuana use does not lead teenagers to experiment with hard drugs like heroin or cocaine.
    The study by the private, nonprofit RAND Drug Policy Research Center countered the theory that marijuana acts as a so-called gateway drug to more harmful narcotics, a key argument against legalizing pot in the United States.

    The researchers did not advocate easing restrictions in marijuana, but questioned the focus on this substance in U.S. drug control efforts.

    "The evidence has seemed so strong in favor of the gateway effect that a lot of policy-makers and others have taken it for granted the gateway effect is real. We have shown why this is not necessarily the case," said Andrew Morral, lead author of the RAND study.

    Using data from the National Household Survey on Drug Abuse between 1982 and 1994, the study concluded teenagers who took hard drugs were predisposed to do so whether they tried marijuana first or not.

    "Kids get their first opportunity to use marijuana years before they get their first exposure to hard drugs," Morral said. "It is possible marijuana is not a gateway drug. It's just the first thing kids often come across."

    Morral said 50 percent of U.S. teenagers had access to marijuana by the age of 16, while the majority had no exposure to cocaine, heroin or hallucinogens until they were 20.

    He said this four-year gap in exposure to the drugs raised doubts about the gateway theory espoused by many social scientists, and underpinning many U.S. anti-drug policies and education campaigns.

    The study, published in the British journal Addiction, does not advocate legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana, which has been linked to side-effects including short-term memory loss.

    But given limited resources, Morral said the U.S. government should reconsider the prominence of marijuana in its much-publicized "war on drugs."

    "If our model is correct, to a certain extent we are diverting resources away from hard drug problems," he said. "Spending money on marijuana control may not be having downstream consequences on the use of hard drugs."

    Researchers say predisposition to drug use has been linked to genetic factors and one's environment, including family dynamics and the availability of drugs in the neighborhood.

    (source:Reuters)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Da Bounca


    jasus , i could do with a joint after all that reading.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭mirv


    Originally posted by Da Bounca
    jasus , i could do with a joint after all that reading.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭TacT


    Originally posted by logic1
    A fabulous furry freak brothers fan?

    .logic.

    everyone should have the fabulous furry freak brothers comic by their side to help them through the depression they will suffer from the after affects of cannabis.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    FREE THE WEED


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