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  • 31-08-2002 2:58pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20


    I recently (yesterday) got Numark TT-1650's and a Behringer VMX-200 mixer. I don't know what the cross fader or the channel fader do to see if they work. The rest of the mixer works fine but I don't think the crossfader is broken, it may not be wired right. Is there something I'm doing wrong? What should I hear if the crossfader is working fine?

    Please post suggestions and please don't laugh.

    Thanks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    ok heres what to do chief...

    power everything up, make sure the decks are wired relevant to their position. ie the left deck goes into channel 1 and the right deck to channel 2

    turn down both the volume sliders

    put on 2 records

    move the cross fader all the way to the right (channel 2)

    turn the volume slider all the way up on the left channel (channel 1)

    you should not hear anything at this stage if the fader is working correctly

    now, slowly move the cross fader from the right to the left. you should hear the music gradually becoming louder until it it all the way to the left.

    repeat this with the opposite channels

    now as to what the fader is for, its the thing you use in order to move channels. im presuming seeing as you didnt know what the fader does that youre not too well versed in the art of djing, so id suggest this site for you. it has all the basics for beat matching and some scrathing etc, ands im sure youll find it very helpful :)

    http://www.doctorbop.co.uk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 moanysony


    Sorry, it didn't work. On the back of my mixer there are 2 phono ports ( input one and two) and 2 line ports ( input one and two), an effects return to main and an effects send from pfl, a tape mains out and an amp main out. Currently I have turntable one in phono 1 and turntable 2 in phono two with no other wires anywhere! Check it out on http://www.behringer-dj.com/vmx200.cfm?mid=1&smid=2!

    Sorry to piss whoever off but I really want to get started!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭phobos


    It sounds like you have the decks connected up to the mixer OK, but make sure that you have assigned channel 1 & channel 2 to the correct input (phono, instead of line). I had a look a the link you supplied, and there seems to be two switches (each at the top of channel 1 & 2) that possibly determine the input type. Perhaps I'm wrong on the specifics, it's hard to see what does what at that distance. But anyway if your mixer accepts both input types, there is bound to be a selector switch (for each channel).

    You also say that the only cables that are connected up, are the decks in to the mixer. Forgive me if you already have this done, but you should have the mixer connected to an amp, or else you're not going to hear a bloody thing regardless, and speakers connected to that.

    NOTE: One thing about using Dj equipment is that everyone's mixer is different. I've played in loads of places, and each one had a different mixer. Every mixer fundamentally does the same thing, but how you get it to do it will vary from mixer to mixer. Think of the switches and knobs etc, as a human interface to the mixer's functionality. (Christ I've been programming too long :p). The human interface is what's different each time. Apart from the mixer, there's no real difference in the actual decks themselves (apart from quality of course, but that's a different matter).

    ;-phobos-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 moanysony


    I can hear the records fine on each channel but I can't fade between them with the crossfader or get the channel fader working. The mixer can't be broken as it is brand new. I need some genius dj with a behringer to help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭phobos


    Ah, there is another multi-setting switch that is found on mixers, and it's to do with assigning, channels to the cross fader. No wait, but you only have two, so scrap that.

    OK I just had a look at my own mixer, and I have the multi-switch to assign channels, and also a button to make that setting, happen. While the button is deactivated the crossfader is basically switched off, and does nothing. But while on it will fade between the two channels I have specified with the multi switch. So see do you have such a button on your mixer, that will assign the 2 channels to the fader.

    OK I had a look at your manual, and you don't seem to have these switches I speak of, so we can rule all that out. My only advice to you is put two records playing. I am assuming you can hear both records playing, when you have both channel volumes up. While that is happening, feck about with the "REVERSE TAP" & "CROSSFADER CURVE" controls on the front of your mixer.

    I have no idea what they do, well the reverse one just reverses the channels on the fader, but I don't know what the curve one does. But I'm sure they will have something to do with the fixing of the problem.

    Let us know

    ;-phobos-)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 moanysony


    Eh what do you advise me to do again? I can crossfade akwardly with a knob but it sounds crap and I can't work my channel fade. Please everyone keep coming up with suggestions, one has gotta work! :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭phobos


    Which "knob" are you using to perform this awkward crossfade (as you put so bluntly it :p). Remember I can see your mixer on the manual I downloaded.

    ;-phobos-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 moanysony


    The knob in question is called mix between channel one and two. I was thinking is the level meter button below the mix knob anything to do with my problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    I assume thr supplier of seth decks would have a technical support branch. Have you been in contact with them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    Ok, here goes.... I dont know if all this has been mentioned, but I'm going to start from the beginning...... in point Form.


    1. Look at the back of the mixer, as you are looking at the back of the mixer, take the lead coming from the Deck on your right and plug it in to Phono 1.

    2. Look below the imput for phone 1, there is a button ensure that this button is depressed, IE set to PHONO.

    3. Repeat the above steps for the other deck.

    4. Look at the top of the mixer, ensure that channel 1 and 2 are both selected to Phono.

    5. Now look down the column of nobs below channel 1, ensure that the gain is turned up, about 30-50 %, move down this column, dont worry about EQ for the moment. Ensure that the volume fader is set to max.

    6. Do the same for Channel 2.

    7. Ensure that your main volume level is up.

    8. Set the crossfader to the centre.

    9. Put two very different songs on, and play both.

    10. You should be able to hear both of the songs playing over each other coming out of the main speakers. (This should be easily spotted because the songs will be very different)

    11. Now, move the cross fader fully left, you should only hear the song that is play from the deck on the left. Satisfied with this,

    12 Move the cross fader fully right, quickly, You should be only able to hear the song playing from the deck on the left.

    13 If this is working then if you slowly move the fader across from right (current position) to left, you will succeed the required crossfade.

    14. If that doesnt work, I'm stumped.


    15. Bye Now

    16. Stop reading.


    John


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    a lot of mixers have a switch that can turn the fader off. make sure its not off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭BeatTun


    thats a lovely lookin mixer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 moanysony


    I went into X-music on the quays and asked the guy there, he was stumped but said he'd ring. Still no sound from the cross fader or channel fader. I think the pre listening fader has something to do with it. BTW :mad: the mixer looks nice but is way to complex for me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 moanysony


    It feckin worked. I had my headphones connected my prefader. This means that you can't use the crossfader only the knobs. I connected the mixer to an amp through the back and lo and behold IT WORKED. I CAN NOW DRIVE THE CROSSFADER LIKE A CUT MOBILE.

    ;) THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭phobos


    And there you have it folks....another DJ is born :)

    Good stuff

    ;-phobos-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Rev. Funky


    nice mixer how much you pay for it?


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