Murdered Girls:VERY Interesting theories here

The Gopher

Well worth the read is the following link.Ive been wondering about certain inconsistencies and this explores them. http://www.bigwig.net/softwaredesign/hollyjessica/who_really_murdered_holly_wells_.htm

Very very interesting stuff-a must read.Due to the fact that the law cant focus in a courtroom on mental health cases generally like a criminal trial could Huntley have been sectioned to cover up a diplomatic disaster for Blair?I wouldnt put it past Blair-he has previously took part in activities harmful to the lives and wellbeing of citizens.

phobos

I've just finished reading it, and I recommend others read it too. But I'm curious to know who this Joe Vialls person is (who wrote it). I will admit, a lot of what he said makes sense, and does raise some questions. I would like to think that the right suspects have been apprehended already, but then again if it was all secretly done to prevent potential problems with political relations between the UK & US, that's just sick.

After reading it I feel worse, and I'm curious to know what other people think. This thread may spark some interesting discussion.

;-phobos-)

Wook

yups, some valid points there. Interresting material makes you think about the whole thing.
it's just a pitty that there is no reference to the writer of this homepage (or i just missed it)

eth0_

It is very interesting, given the stories about the three US soldiers who murdered their wives within a few days of getting back from Afghanistan, thought to be due to an adverse reaction to anti-malaria drugs. I wonder could this be the case here?

On the other hand....the bodies were dumped ON THE DOORSTEP of the base. Extreme stupidity, blatant disregard for life/law.....or maybe it wasn't a member of the USAF that murdered those girls.

Kix

Follow the link at the bottom of the page to the rest of Mr Joe Vialls' "articles" and I think you might find your sense of his credibility dropping rather rapidly.

We've been told that there is physical evided which has been collected. Let's just wait. Maxine Carr at least will get her day in court.

K

Clintons Cat

Have only scanned the article,makes a prima face case for examination.
One reservation i would have about it is the location the bodies were found.I have a passing familliarity with the area and a few things it has in its favour are A)remoteness,B)Accessability C)Open to the Public.

Despite the articles assertations and the hieghtend security of the war on terrorism the perimeter fence is not frequently patrolled,a car pulling up in the area would not necessarily cause much suspicion inside the base as it would likely be considered to be a lovers clandestine meeting.More likely to cause suspicion would be for a vehicle to drive up to the perimeter fence from inside the base,such an activity would raise suspicion of smuggling from the MPs.Unless we consider a man or group of men sneaking the bodies through the cover of darkness across open countryside to throw the bodies over the fence (yeah right)
Secondly there were no reported sightings of a group of men acting suspiciously in soham,and a single man wouldnt have been able to snatch two girls without them raising the alarm.
I am afraid i think it was much more likely they were led off by someone they knew.

Mercury_Tilt

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Repli

It's a very interesting read but I'm not sure if I believe all his facts.

eth0_

Originally posted by Mercury_Tilt

Just a tad of demonisation* He could get a job with the Sun.

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Yeah, for real. I'm NEVER buying the Sun/Star/Mirror again after the reading the articles on this case by journalists who think they're judge, jury and executioner. What gives them the right to print the kind of things they have, that are going to influence any jury in this case!
There's supposed to be a law against publishing information that will influence the way a trial turns out, obviously the penalties aren't heavy enough

Dustaz

This is utter rubbish.

The author has picked a hypothesis and written an article to support it with absolutly no evidence to back it up whatsoever.

While i agree with some of the points he makes about the treatment of Huntley and Carr, which was and still is disgraceful, his ONLY link to american servicemen is the fact the bodies were found near a base. He has no way of knowing what evidence the police have on H&C, He gives no link to his assertion that 'Body language experts verified they were not lying' and he seems to think that quoting previous cases involving american servicemen amounts to evidence.

Id be much more likely to put credence into a report on this that is conducted with facts, evidence and burden of proof in mind.

This isnt journalism, this is internet conspiracy theorising.

BuffyBot

Originally posted by Dustaz
While i agree with some of the points he makes about the treatment of Huntley and Carr, which was and still is disgraceful, ....................this is internet conspiracy theorising.

Hate to say it, but I agree.

They have been treated awfully - but that is beside the point. To be honest this guy seems to have his own agenda, just as certain section of the UK media have had.

A lot of supposition, but very little hard fact.

Hairy Homer

I reckon this was one of the cases the precogs couldn't agree on.

(Minority Report a 'Must See')

WhiteWashMan

Originally posted by Hairy Homer
I reckon this was one of the cases the precogs couldn't agree on.

(Minority Report a 'Must See')

i think it was the bouncers myself.....

pro_gnostic_8

A cover-up to preserve the British/US "special relationship? Oh, I don't think so ........... this tragic double murder is the subject of so much attention that when it goes to court no amount of whitewash could succeed.
The alleged killings of four Army wives in Ft Bragg is factual. But this and the fact that the remains of the two girls were found close by the perimeter of Mildenhall is too tenuous a connection to be anything but the most feeble of circumstantial association.
There "seems" to be much more substantial and concrete evidence linking Huntley to the murders (him being the last to see Holly and Jessica alive,..........substantial forensic evidence found at the school, etc.)

Like a previous poster, I too suspect that Vialls has an agenda here.

mike65

Has anyone else followed this link
http://geocities.com/vialls/index.html

The guy is just a anti-Israel, paraniod loon who proberly thinks the X-Files is documentary.

To wit - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/tupolev/tupolev.htm

and even better
http://geocities.com/murderinparis/ritz.html

I love the net but there's just so much space some of it gets filled with sh*te.

Mike.

Dustaz

In fact the “strobe-like effects” had already done considerably more damage than that. At one London TV station two editors became severely confused, and at another station, one editor became totally disorientated and collapsed across the control console. None of these personnel, or other who suffered lesser effects, had any history of epilepsy.

HAHAHAHAHAHA



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Hairy Homer

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan


i think it was the bouncers myself.....

By God, you could be on to something there!!

They were underage.
They were inappropriately dressed.
They were clearly well to do and therefore probably insufferably cocky. (10 year olds with mobile phones indeed)
We could yet plea bargain this down to justifiable homicide....

..allright. This is inappropriately flippant. But yer man started it.

Biffa Bacon

I had a look through the rest of the guy's site, and although some of it seems a bit off the wall, some of it seems entirely plausible. Something stinks about this entire case, and I think he might be on to something.

What's stranger though is that I've searched the web for sites debunking this guy and I couldn't find any, despite the fact that he seems extremely prolific. I also found this site on the Port Arthur massacres in Tasmania. If it's true, the implications are absolutely stunning.

The Gopher

True Biffa some of the rest of the site is groundless conspiracy theory-like the suggestion that there were no Arabs even on the hijacked planes is ludicrous.But i really do think hes making valid points in the 2 murders.

Winters

Very interesting read i must say....im about half way through at the moment. Of the first link that is .... not the one about the anti-Israel, paraniod loon....tough im going to read that one

I think the people wjo write this are the fellas who always wear gloves so that the government can never get your finger print. Never buy a mobile phone so that the government can never pin point your location ... and ... never walk in the cracks on the pavement

Shinji

It's mad internet conspiracy theory at its best. As Dustaz says though, I do agree totally on the treatment of Huntley and Carr, which has been utterly disgraceful and makes a mockery of our so-called justice system.

I do wonder about some stuff - Huntley's bundling off to the mental hospital is very very unusual, while bringing Carr openly to court the way they did is a tactic last seen in... er... the Barry George case - the unfortunate loony who's been banged up for something he clearly didn't do.

I'll be interested to see what state Huntley is in when he's finally seen again by the world. While I don't believe this particular conspiracy theory in its entirety, I do believe that there's something very fishy about this entire affair - and a willing media is aiding the whole cover-up by whipping up a public frenzy which will drown out any protesting voices.

Thanx 4 The Fish

Alot of good points made there.

I wouldn't mind knowing whether or not any USAF personnell were questioned after the two bodies were found ?

Or what the evidence that links the alleged perpetrators of the crime to the girls was and where it was found.

And how if these two people are found to be not guilty, they cold ever return to a normal life anywhere.

Clintons Cat

Or what the evidence that links the alleged perpetrators of the crime to the girls was and where it was found.

Really, I thought that was the stuff that got discussed in court,you know when they put people on trial?