Funny this!!

Hellrazer

Anyone seen this yet----

http://home.eircom.net/beststart/index.asp

Offering eircoms subscription service-save 60% on peak calls and 20% on off peak call charges.

I used the calculator and put in 0 hours peak time(Im in work) and 22 hours off peak-3 hours per night and I can make an amazing saving of

wait for it

1.91%

1.91% or 1.40 euros per bill.

Fu<king brilliant!!!! WHERE DO I SIGN UP????

Hellrazer

Ive just rang the number on this page and asked how I could avail of the 20% discount on the call charges and was told that the more I use the Internet the more I can save.So I tried a little experiment.If you use their calculator and try to calculate a 20% saving off peak only then you would have to use the internet for 150 off peak hours per week.
Problem is that there are only 118 off peak hours in any seven day period.Assuming that off peak is 6pm-8am=5 x 14 and 2x48(Sat& Sunday) which gives a total of 118 hours per week.So Im lost as to where they get there 20% saving.
AND this is before you pay your subscription charges which is almost €200 euro per year.

Tippex

Maybe a case for the ASAI?

bricks

At the moment you spend approximately 88,000.00 hours per week online.
With a free account your Internet access costs would be: 1,073,889.60 EUR/month
With a subscription account your Internet access costs would be: 422,071.56 EUR/month
Hence with a subscription account you will make a saving of approximately 60.70%

At the moment you spend approximately 180,000.00 hours per week online.
With a free account your Internet access costs would be: 1,471,780.80 EUR/month
With a subscription account your Internet access costs would be: 677,315.64 EUR/month
Hence with a subscription account you will make a saving of approximately 53.98%

So with 88000 hours online per month I save 60.7%
But with 180000 hours online per month I only save 53.98%.

Delphi91

Originally posted by bricks
...So with 88000 hours online per month I save 60.7%
But with 180000 hours online per month I only save 53.98%.

Well, considering you spend so much time on-line, where are you gonna find the time to spend the 6.72% that you've saved in costs?????...:D

Why not try doing the figures for more realistic times - after all, there are only a maximum of 744 hours in a month (some less, obviously). Where did you get 88,000 hours online per month??????

Mike

DeVore

Never mind "per month" his post indicates "88,000 hours PER WEEK".

Maybe he's overclocked his watch or something...

DeV.

timod

Originally posted by Delphi91


Why not try doing the figures for more realistic times - after all, there are only a maximum of 744 hours in a month (some less, obviously). Where did you get 88,000 hours online per month??????

I presume he's just trying to work out where the reduction of 60% comes in.

exiztone

I think they made that just as a way of saying "We run this monopoly, and we get away with it, now we're going to rub it in your powerless faces hahaha"

Eircom sux

wormhole

i must say those figures gave me the best laugh i've had in
months until i realised that eirclot proberbly use them for
their calculations to!

exiztone

Originally posted by wormhole
i must say those figures gave me the best laugh i've had in
months until i realised that eirclot proberbly use them for
their calculations to!

Heh, I'm not the only one who stays up this late too

Hellrazer

Heres the reply I git back from Eircon customer when I emailed the complaint to them.


I would like to respond to your complaint in relation to
the eircom net calculator. The best start pages
advises people that with a subscription account
they receive 60% saving for peak rates and 20% saving
for off-peak rates. These savings relate as stated
directly to call rates.

Actual text:
"These benefits include reduced call rates - saving over 60% for peak
and 20% for off peak hours."

This is correct. With a subscription account you pay
less than local call rates for Internet access. Less than local call rates
are significantly cheaper than the local call rates associated with
free accounts.

Please see the savings you can make on call rates below.

Free Account

Peak 4.19 cents/minute
Off-peak 1.09 cents/minute
Support Calls 60.82`cents/minute

Subscription Account
Peak 1.61 cents/minute
Off-peak .80 cents/minute
Support Calls local call rates.

(EX VAT Prices)

As you can see from above the call rates for a subscription account
are significantly lower than for a free account.
When you calculate the difference in call rates,
the savings are actually even higher than mentioned in our
text. With a subscription account there is a 61% reduction
in call rates for peak hours and actually over a 26% saving
on call rates for off-peak hours.

When you buy a subscription account with eircom net,
you basically buy an account that will enable you to
receive these reduced call rates. The calculator takes into
account the subscription fee that you pay for a subscription account
in addition to the reduced call rates to give you an overall
saving. If you like I can organise for one of
our sales team to call you to discuss this further.

In the meantime if you have any questions please let
me know.

Thanks and Regards,

aidan_dunne

Originally posted by Hellrazer
In the meantime if you have any questions please let
me know.

Yes Mister/Miss Eircom rep-type person, when can we expect to see FRIACO in operation and proper, 24/7, flat-rate, 56K dial-up internet access in this country? And don't give me that bull$hit about it not being "commercially viable at this time." We want flat-rate and we want it NOW!

Thank you.

Hellrazer

Dont worry Aidan I sent them back a reply to the above asking why no-where on the above mentioned page does it say that their calculator includes the cost of your subscription charge.Which IMO is still blatant false advertising ie an ad for 60% savings on your CALL charges yet your INTERNET charges remain the same.

exiztone

Strange this,
they are actually enforcing this!
At least I think this is the same deal, I know IOL are owned by Esat now, but the new offer seems to be the same as what you described =/
I have the IOL premium service, you know, it's called gold or something, I don't know why, my dad insists he uses them for business, anyway, they suckass, I logged on today, and any http requests resulted in (please use the 1981 number for low low savings) then rubbed the bloody .80 a minute price in my face!
Those guys are unbelievable you know...