Building a new system

Stephen

I'm planning to build an AMD athlon XP based system in the coming weeks. I'm probably going to get a motherboard+cpu+ram+fan bundle from Komplett and then take a few pieces from my existing pc (hard drives, etc). I have my eye on a nice case in a local shop for €55 including 300W psu.

Do you lot think that the 300W psu will be sufficient to drive the system with 4 IDE drives?

The bundle i'm considering ordering from Komplett is the following:

SKU 108607 AMD Athlon XP1800+ 1.533 GHz 266 MHz bus Socket A (Palomino) Processor (OEM)
SKU 108052 Cooler Master CPU-Fan Socket A/7/FCPGA DP5-6I31C, Up to 1,4GHz and AMD XP2000+
SKU 105276 DDR-DIMM PC2100 256MB DDR CL2.5 Memory 184-Pins
SKU 110681 MSI KT3 ULTRA Mainboard for Socket A [ has a fairly decent onboard soundcard ] VIAKT333, ATA/133,sound , ATX, DDR

And an additional 256mb of DDR RAM.

Stuff I have that will be going into the system:

Maxtor 120gig 5400rpm IDE HD
IBM 60GXP 7200rpm IDE HD
Linksys EtherFast 10/100 nic
Smelly conexant hcf modem
GeForce 2 GTS 32mb (Can't afford a new graphics card right now)
12x NEC DVD-ROM
My elderly iomega ZipCD drive (4x4x24)
Some old floppy disk drive that's knocking about

I'll be using my existing keyboard, mouse, speakers and sony trinitron 19" monitor too.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? Am I doing anything blatantly wrong or anything?

_sheep

you'll have no bother running that on a 300w, /me is practically running the same thing on his 300w, although got newer graphics card etc.... should have no prob m8

elexes

Originally posted by Lorax
Running an xp 1800 with 4 ide drives
I'd get a 350w just to be safe

dont ya mean 2 ide and 2 raid ?

PPC

I managed to get 4 ide devices, 768MB ram, Athlon 1.2 oc'd to 1.38 and an overclocked GF3 and 12case fans all to run off a 250w psu.
I did however upgrade to a 300w

PSU: What you need
AGP video card - 20-30W
PCI video card - 20W
AMD Athlon 900MHz-1.1GHz - 50W
AMD Athlon 1.2MHz-1.4GHz - 55-65W
Intel Pentium III 800MHz-1.26GHz - 30W
Intel Pentium 4 1.4GHz-1.7GHz - 65W
Intel Pentium 4 1.8GHz-2.0GHz - 75W
Intel Celeron 700MHz-900MHz - 25W
Intel Celeron 1.0GHz-1.1GHz - 35W
ATX Motherboard - 30W-40W
128MB RAM - 10W
256MB RAM - 20W
12X or higher IDE CD-RW Drive - 25W
32X or higher IDE CD-ROM Drive - 20W
10x or higher IDE DVD-ROM Drive - 20W
SCSI CD-RW Drive - 17W
SCSI CD-ROM Drive - 12W
5400RPM IDE Hard Drive - 10W
7200RPM IDE Hard Drive - 13W
7200RPM SCSI Hard Drive - 24W
10000RPM SCSI Hard Drive - 30W
Floppy Drive - 5W
Network Card - 4W
Modem - 5W
Sound Card - 5W
SCSI Controller Card - 20W
Firewire/USB Controller Card - 10W
Case Fan - 3W
CPU Fan - 3W

JustHalf

Originally posted by elexes
dont ya mean 2 ide and 2 raid ?

IDE is IDE, whether in a raid configuration or not.

And PPC, I doubt you actually NEEDED 12 case fans.

Stephen

Originally posted by elexes


dont ya mean 2 ide and 2 raid ?

Nope. 2 IDE hard disks and a DVD-ROM and a CDRW. The board I have listed above hasn't got a RAID controller.

TacT

Well considering you may upgrade that graphics card at a later stage just be sure to steer clear of the abit motherboards because if you get a gf4 at a later stage you may have some nasty experiences

hf, I know I did settin up mine last night


jesus ppc that's just a TAD excessive :eek:

300/350w should be fine for most users unless you plan on doing a ppc on it

PPC

Yeah im down to
1x Delta 80mm on the cpu
2x Xilium 80mm outtakes
1x 120mm YSTech intake
1x 20mm for the ramsinks
1x Chrome Orb
1x pci out take fan
1x northbridge

I have an XP1900 @ 1.73@1.81v
Geforce 3
1024MB ddr
2x 40Gb h/d 5400rpm
nic and isdn modem
dvd and a cd-w

And it runs nicely off 300w psu.

I'm looking at getting a full dragon case and they come with a 340w psu.

And maybe i'll be able to get my inverters for my cathodes.

So 300w should be fine but if your a power freak (which im not) get yer 400/500's.
So that 300w should be ok

PPC

Originally posted by JustHalf
And PPC, I doubt you actually NEEDED 12 case fans.

CPU idle temp without fans: 60*c
CPU idle temp with fans: 55*c

It was one of the TBird that used to run extremely hot

JustHalf

I'm currently getting 51 C under load with 2 case fans, (not including the 2 fans in my PSU, running very slow) and a 7v modded delta.

And one of the case fans is pretty much blowing air against a steel wall.

Gerry

I don't think the 340w in the dragon case is the best psu in the world, the 12v line drops to 11.6 - 11.4 on the machine I'm building. It still seems to be running a 1.8A p4 at 2.7, so I'll see how it holds up under extended testing. I tried an enermax on the same machine, and couldn't overclock the chip any higher, though the 12v stayed at its proper 11.95 - 12 level. I rewired the fan in the psu to 7v to help it a bit with the high load.

Winters

Originally posted by tactical anni
be sure to steer clear of the abit motherboards because if you get a gf4 at a later stage you may have some nasty experiences

Please explain... I was gonna get an Abit KR7A and Geforece4 MX ......

Gerry

Yus, are you talking about capacitors not clearing? Or some incompatibility? Explain yourself more fully instead of making such wide generalisations.

astrofool

flashing to the latest bios usually solves things like that (usually occurs if a graphics card comes out and is used on a very old bios), but in general there hasn't been any reported problems with Abit + gef4's ?

(running a gef4 ti4600 in kr7a-raid atm with 0 problems)

Stephen

(back to the original topic )

I ordered the parts today (MSI KT3 Ultra, 2x256mb PC2100 DDR RAM, coolermaster fan, athlon XP 1800+). Lets see how long it takes komplett to get them to my doorway

Also picked up the case and a couple of fans locally today as well:

azezil

Originally posted by Stephen

Also picked up the case and a couple of fans locally today as well:
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where? i was looking for said goods, not too hard mind you

BabyEater

PPC that must be a good 300W PS because when i was overclocking me 1900XP and i set me VCore to 1.825 it was swinging between 1.79 and 1.82 which meant i couldn't get me overclock a that high a voltage . By the way me load temps were only 41C at that voltage

PPC

Originally posted by BabyEater
PPC that must be a good 300W PS because when i was overclocking me 1900XP and i set me VCore to 1.825 it was swinging between 1.79 and 1.82 which meant i couldn't get me overclock a that high a voltage . By the way me load temps were only 41C at that voltage

Its a Codegen 300w psu.
My temps are about 39*C load with a 7v fan.

Stephen

Azezil: You know the computer centre in james' street? Got em there. 5 euro for 2. He has a big bucket of them in the back

Gerry

Originally posted by PPC
I managed to get 4 ide devices, 768MB ram, Athlon 1.2 oc'd to 1.38 and an overclocked GF3 and 12case fans all to run off a 250w psu.
I did however upgrade to a 300w

PSU: What you need
AGP video card - 20-30W
PCI video card - 20W
AMD Athlon 900MHz-1.1GHz - 50W
AMD Athlon 1.2MHz-1.4GHz - 55-65W
Intel Pentium III 800MHz-1.26GHz - 30W
Intel Pentium 4 1.4GHz-1.7GHz - 65W
Intel Pentium 4 1.8GHz-2.0GHz - 75W
Intel Celeron 700MHz-900MHz - 25W
Intel Celeron 1.0GHz-1.1GHz - 35W
ATX Motherboard - 30W-40W
128MB RAM - 10W
256MB RAM - 20W
12X or higher IDE CD-RW Drive - 25W
32X or higher IDE CD-ROM Drive - 20W
10x or higher IDE DVD-ROM Drive - 20W
SCSI CD-RW Drive - 17W
SCSI CD-ROM Drive - 12W
5400RPM IDE Hard Drive - 10W
7200RPM IDE Hard Drive - 13W
7200RPM SCSI Hard Drive - 24W
10000RPM SCSI Hard Drive - 30W
Floppy Drive - 5W
Network Card - 4W
Modem - 5W
Sound Card - 5W
SCSI Controller Card - 20W
Firewire/USB Controller Card - 10W
Case Fan - 3W
CPU Fan - 3W

Where did you find that? Its full of generalisations and inaccuracies.

Intel Pentium III 800MHz-1.26GHz - 30W - eh what? Theres going to be a major variance there.

AGP video card - 20-30W
ATX Motherboard - 30W-40W - more generalisations.

12X or higher IDE CD-RW Drive - 25W
32X or higher IDE CD-ROM Drive - 20W - Would you care to explain this?

I wouldn't advise anyone to base their psu requirements on this.