Hardest RPG ever

Retr0gamer · 24-06-2002 6:52pm #1

It has to be Final Fantasy Tactics. Anyone got some tips for it cos i'm still stuck in the first chapter. Seymour Flux in Final fantasy X is a bit of a nightmare at the moment.

Pugsley · 24-06-2002 8:02pm

Final fantasy5 is very bloody hard,i aint played FF tactics yet tho. Breath of Fire 1 and 2 were also very hard.

Squall · 24-06-2002 8:13pm

Has to be Arcanum basically because of its sheer complexity. You could play the thing 100 times and still not discover everything

b4k4^2 · 24-06-2002 8:40pm

Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall
Game was so damn huge, so many side quests but the hardest bit was the dungeons. Biiiig dungeons, no landmarks whatsoever, only clue you had was the dead bodies you'd left behind. Still one helluva wicked game.

Kairo · 24-06-2002 9:41pm

Pools Of Radiance...The original gold-box one mind, not that crappy new one which should have never even used the POR name.

Illkillya · 24-06-2002 10:08pm

Originally posted by b4k4^2
Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall
Game was so damn huge, so many side quests but the hardest bit was the dungeons. Biiiig dungeons, no landmarks whatsoever, only clue you had was the dead bodies you'd left behind. Still one helluva wicked game.

definitely - most of the dungeons were randomly generated i think so you couldn't seek help from walkthroughs. you'd have to find a little chopped off finger in a huge dungeon and you could spend 12 hours looking for it even after you've killed everyone.

Giblet · 24-06-2002 11:40pm

Illusion of Time .... man that was so ****ing hard

Hobbes · 25-06-2002 8:31am

Originally posted by Squall
Has to be Arcanum basically because of its sheer complexity. You could play the thing 100 times and still not discover everything

I would agree with this, I've been playing it for ages and there is still loads I haven't/can no longer see in the game. It's just too much complexity in it.

I did find a money bug though, a certain character in the game you have to shake down for cash for the local brothel. If you select a certain sequence of the conversation he hands over half the cash and then forgets he did it, so you can keep doing it over and over. I kept that up until I clicked the wrong sequence (50k in gold, which didn't last very long).

Shinji · 25-06-2002 4:20pm

FFT was tricky, but there were some characters in it who were so stupidly overpowered that you could basically chuck them into your party and go around mauling anyone in your path. Not really an RPG either, I guess - turn based strategy with RPG elements, I'd have said?

I found FFX very easy, but a lot of fun. The Seymour Flux battle is certainly one of the tougher ones though...

In terms of Hardest RPG EVAR stakes, I'd go for some of the original Phantasy Star titles. I think it was Phantasy Star 2 which basically had you walking outside the village and immediately being blatted senseless, again and again and again... Hard as bloody nails.

Ping Chow Chi · 25-06-2002 6:04pm

there was a phantasy star on the master system that I never managed to finish

... Im sure the game was broke :P

Retr0gamer · 27-06-2002 12:20pm

I just beat Seymour Flux. Not to hard if you actually think up a strategy. At the moment FFT is far harder than Breathe of Fire 1 &2 and i haven't played FF5 enough to judge it but it is very tough. I have to just find a way to kill those smegging mages in FFT before the bombard me with magic.

zAbbo · 27-06-2002 12:26pm

I just won a FFX game and tshirt but will be giving the game to a mate as it will inevitably take over my life and i cant have the FF7/Leaving Cert Fiasco happen to me again.

Oh well maybe just one go....

Retr0gamer · 28-06-2002 9:50pm

FF7 almost ruined my leaving cert as well. FF8 almost ruined my semester 1 christmas exams and FF9 almost ruined my summer exams. Thank god i left FFX til after my exams. I just got stuck again in FFX on that horrible teleport boss oh well just means i can waste my life. I'm sorry how could I say that about the most beautiful series of games ever!

BLITZ_Molloy · 04-07-2002 9:16am

Phantasy Star 2 and 4 were bloody difficult alright.. FF7 was childsplay in comparison.

The title I think goes to LandStalker it had the most viciously infuriating puzzle elements and precision platforming in a wierd isometricperspective. I was sick for 2 months when I was about 12 and I didn't manage to finish it despite playing 8 hours a day. Its saving grave was well written dialogue, story and the fact I liked insanely hard titles when I was younger.

FFT is as valid an RPG as anything else. Shining Force was quite similar. Strategic or Puzzle RPGs are my favourites. Anythingbuit another action RPG with no story (Zelda isn't an RPG - its an action adventure with a few token RPG elements thrown in) or another rehash of the tired FF formula.

DapperGent · 04-07-2002 9:34am

Is Grim Fandango an RPG? Man that game was hard-brilliant though. Discworld. Now that was one hard piece of **** game.

Shinji · 04-07-2002 9:45am

Zelda isn't an RPG - its an action adventure with a few token RPG elements thrown in

It's an action RPG. That's a genre all on it's own - includes stuff like Alundra as well.

astrofool · 04-07-2002 10:46am

I think he means it takes a degree of skill to play zelda (due to the hand-eye coordination bits), whereas with other rpg's how good you are depends soley on number of hours spent levelling up at it

DiscoStu · 04-07-2002 12:23pm

Dungeon Master and Captive on the atari st. if i hadnt played these games as a kid i might have an ounce of sanity left today. ishar was also pretty damn hard. i think captive had an unlimited number of levels