Irish Team = UK seconds...?

Zero

Originally posted by mike65
would it be great if you turned on the telly and heard
Gary Lineiker say the Irish team consisted of makeweights and journeymen half of whom should'nt be playing for Ireland anyway
as they're Brits. That won't happen of course because of something called fair play and courtesy...

Eh No,
that wont happen because for the first time in a long long time, the Irish starting team is full of Irishmen.

Given- IRISH
Harte- IRISH
Staunton- IRISH
Finnan- IRISH
Breen- British
Kilbane- IRISH
Kinsella- IRISH
Holland- British
Kelly- IRISH
Keane- IRISH
Duff- IRISH

What are you talking about?

dccarm

That Owen Hargreaves isn't much of an Englishman either is he?

zAbbo

AFAIK hargreaves is a Canadian brought up in Germany and Mother(?) is english.

When Lennox Lewis lost that boxing match last year(i think) he was " Canadian Born" but when he won against Tyson he was "British Hero".

Ah well 2-1, 2-1 ,2-1 etc.

hand_of_god

If you notice the nationality of those who missed the penalty kicks against Spain in the shootout.

Kilbane - English
Holland - English
Connolly - English

& those that scored

Keane - Irish
Finnan - Irish.

Makes you think eh!!

tHE vAGGABOND

While Zero has a good and perfectly acceptable point, let’s not let this thread just fall into a petty anti-England thread please.

Pigman

Originally posted by hand_of_god
If you notice the nationality of those who missed the penalty kicks against Spain in the shootout.

Kilbane - English
Holland - English
Connolly - English

& those that scored

Keane - Irish
Finnan - Irish.

Makes you think eh!!

It must be in their blood when it comes to taking peno's! Let's hope we don't pick up any dutch guys who want to play for Ireland in the near future

Dustaz

Nice to see you calling a lot of players Brittish. Just like Roy Keanes Brittish kids i suppose eh?

Also Hargreaves might not be fully english, but neither is Keown. Our Marting has 2 irish parents, speaks irish, holidays here every year and tried twice (unsuccessfully because of previous english youth caps) to register for ireland

BJJ

Originally posted by Dustaz
Nice to see you calling a lot of players Brittish. Just like Roy Keanes Brittish kids i suppose eh?

Hmm
Unlike Cameroon, Mexico, Brazilian players
Roy Keane walked out on his country because of problems such as equipment, pitch....
None of these other Players would ever put their Club before their country.
Roy Keane did and now he's history.
Roy Kean was born in Cork so sadly he is Irish

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by Dustaz
Also Hargreaves might not be fully english, but neither is Keown. Our Marting has 2 irish parents, speaks irish, holidays here every year and tried twice (unsuccessfully because of previous english youth caps) to register for ireland

really :eek: i'm impressed

Da_cOmRaDe_MiKe

i find dat absoloutely complete bullsh*t.. who gives a fu*k if they r english or irish? the fact is that they played their best for the team. it really pis*es me off to hear ppl go on and on about how fu*ked up the english are. 2 weeks ago i was there on holiday and yes im english and when there not 1 single person said anything bad about irish ppl and the team when i watched the irish match in an english pub sorrounded by english supporters wearing their english jerseys.

also while listening to the radio over there in the space of 2 hours while travelling in a car i heard the presenters congratulate the irish on a brilliant and well deserved draw with germany. they said more good things about the irish team than any presenter on radio or t.v here in ireland.

Dustaz

Originally posted by BJJ


Roy Kean was born in Cork so sadly he is Irish

His kids were born in england to irish parents, does that make them not irish?

TetsuoHashimoto

Who gives a F**k about Roy Keane and his kids! He's an arrogant and rich and wealthy man!

He also let down the Irish team and the 1000s of Irish fans that wished or wanted Ireland to progress to the Quater or Semi Finals.


If Roy Keane's kids posses a fraction of his arrogance and selfish behaviour then I don't want them to play for Ireland anytime in the future.

There were only 2 bad players

Royt Keane and Ian Harte

TetsuoHashimoto

Roy Keane was the only "English ****" a man who put the club Manchester before his country of Ireland.

Would Ronaldo, Park ji Sung, Klose or Ilhan Mansiz do this?

No.

That's why they're in the semi-finals


http://www.iol.ie/~pfc/sattacks/feb02att.html

http://www.allianceparty.org/html/david_ford_-_c_2001.html

http://www.univ-nancy2.fr/CEAA/CRESAB/chrono-ni-09-00-rh.html

mike65

Good to see the soccor boards tradition of reasoned arguement
being upheld!

Mike.

vorbis

yawn more Keane bashing. He was sent home. Plus he got us there in the first place. By this stage most people can guess that infamous meeting was some kind of crude setup.

Dustaz

Originally posted by vorbis
yawn more Keane bashing. He was sent home. Plus he got us there in the first place. By this stage most people can guess that infamous meeting was some kind of crude setup.

Where did all these matches of 11 v 1 take place that people keep talking about? Vorbis, there was about 34 people that got us to the world cup.

Samba

I think what he is trying to say is that if it were not for Keanes presence in a certain number of important games, we possibly would not have reached the World Cup finals.

Tbh i totally agree with this, watch both of the Holland games, and you will see why......

Hairy Homer

Originally posted by Dustaz
Our Marting has 2 irish parents, speaks irish, holidays here every year and tried twice (unsuccessfully because of previous english youth caps) to register for ireland

Are you sure about that? I know his parents were Irish and his family slag him mercilessly about playing for the Great Satan but I heard that he always wanted to play for England because that's what he considered his nationality to be.

And fair play to him, say I.

As far as I am concerned, those who have a choice between two nationalities should be absolutely free to make up their own minds as to which they identify with the more.

Some you win (Lawrenson, Houghton, er Cascarino)

and some you lose (Keown, Keegan, McManamin, Carragher, Murphy, Kennedy etc etc) Not to mention the last man to score in a World Cup final and who could have played for Ireland: one Jose Luiz Browne.

Dustaz

Originally posted by Samba
I think what he is trying to say is that if it were not for Keanes presence in a certain number of important games, we possibly would not have reached the World Cup finals.

Tbh i totally agree with this, watch both of the Holland games, and you will see why......

what so it was the other 1o players who threw away a 2 goal lead?

Look, keane is an important player, but Given as easily as important. As is McCarthy important as manager. These facts are indisputable

vorbis

Keane was easily our best player in both Holland matches. If you noticed he was the only player to actually care about the team throwing away a 2 goal lead. The rest were delighted not to get beaten.

Mountjoy Mugger

Christ, not another pro Keane diatribe, please!!!!!!!!!! Stay ON Topic, ffs.

Samba

In fairness Dustaz it is hard to say how the match would have gone in his absence, but honestly watch the matches again and you may see what i am talking about i simplu think that without him the other 10 men may not have performed the way they did,

i did say "possibly"


Im stayin out of this one