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Starbucks

  • 24-05-2002 4:31pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭


    Why the hell has no one thought of opening a Starbucks here? Has nobody thought of the amount of profit to be made opening one up? :mad: All I want is a decent coffee.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    You just did, congratulations!!

    (I'll have a double mochaccino please, and I like mine "wet", none of that half cup filled with foam fer me thanks. €1 that enough?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 357 ✭✭Lolo


    Sheesh, there are plenty of places in Dublin to get a decent coffee without allowing those evil bastards to begin their stranglehold on the country. Let them in and before you know it all your favourite independent cafés will be swallowed up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭mayhem#


    Originally posted by Corega
    All I want is a decent coffee.

    You're in the wrong country mate...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 357 ✭✭Lolo


    Nicest coffee in Dublin is the Steps of Rome, Clarendon Street I think - my memory for Dublin street names has gone to sh ite since I moved.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭bombidol


    Go To Metro off grafton St, Coffee's decent enough there wont kill you with price either, Oh and get a Toasted Bagel with creamed chesse for me while your there..mmmm.....

    bOmb


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 625 ✭✭✭ThreadKiller


    Originally posted by Corega
    Why the hell has no one thought of opening a Starbucks here? Has nobody thought of the amount of profit to be made opening one up? :mad: All I want is a decent coffee.

    Enquired about it while in the US. you need $5,000,000 in assets (either cash or property) & an existing market which means either an existing coffee shop or a business which has access to a main thoroughfare which would benefit from having a starbucks present.

    There's one franchisee in Ireland already & they're supposed to be opening outlets in Grafton street, Dublin Airport & O'Connell Street by the end of the year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 357 ✭✭Lolo


    The end is nigh, then.

    In the 2 years between my 2 visits to New York, at least 4 really cool, small independent cafés in the East Village became Starbucks-es, including one which had been a hangout for the 50s beat poets and retained its original decor for 45 years... until now.

    I can see the same thing happening in London now - not just with Starbucks, but bland chains in general. But people don't give a s hit about preserving unique-ness in Ireland anyway, the current philosophy is new=good (no matter how bland), old=bad (no matter how cool).

    Their coffee's not even that good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Shinji


    Actually I've seen very little of this alleged swallowing-up of smaller coffee houses by Starbucks in London. I do however really, really like Starbucks; bleat all you like about megacorporation coffee, but their selection of coffees is fantastic, the cakes and sandwiches and stuff are always fresh, and the whole seating area full of couches and low tables is great. They even seem to have some policy about not moving people on from in there - you can buy a big coffee and sit down on an armchair and read a book for an hour if you feel like it. Not many places in central London where you can do that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    Starbucks rock..

    They are a bit expensive maybe, but you have a huge menu and good quality and good service..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 357 ✭✭Lolo


    As chains go, Pret a Manger is much better when it comes to quality and choice (especially for veggies and vegans), but their seating leaves a lot to be desired. Are there any in Ireland yet?

    Funnily, I can always find a wealth of other places to hang out, have coffe and read a book in Central London. There are still loads of 50s and 60s formica caffs around, serving proper Italian cofee (whereas there's only one left in Dublin). Here's a website dedicated to them:

    http://www.classiccafes.co.uk/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭BJJ


    Originally posted by Lolo
    Sheesh, there are plenty of places in Dublin to get a decent coffee without allowing those evil bastards to begin their stranglehold on the country. Let them in and before you know it all your favourite independent cafés will be swallowed up.

    True.

    Did you know that Ireland ranks at number 4 for the Top tea and coffee drinking nations behind sweden, denmark and Quatar.

    Yyou can find a good coffee without getting Starbucks you just have to look around Ireland.

    It's also one of the top beer and whiskey drinkers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Originally posted by BJJ
    Yyou can find a good coffee without getting Starbucks you just have to look around Ireland.

    I would have thought that not getting Starbucks was a prerequisite to finding good coffee.

    I can honestly say that no Starbucks I have ever had was better than average in my book.

    jc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    for someone like me, who just drinks iced coffee, Starbucks is a godsend. While Coffee Society do a decent iced mocha, there is sod all else worth drinking in this city (dublin)

    Granted Starbucks is overpriced, and far too widespread in the states (I remember when the first starbucks hit manhattan), but at least it's offering me something that I can't get here at present.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭Clinical Waste


    OMG, I was getting starting to think I was the only Iced Coffee starved freak in Ireland.

    Ahh, the comfort that comes from a looniness shared.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 357 ✭✭Lolo


    I'm very partial to a soya iced coffee on a hot summer's day meself - now that's something I've never found in Dublin. Lots of places in London do them though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Corega


    Originally posted by BJJ
    Did you know that Ireland ranks at number 4 for the Top tea and coffee drinking nations behind sweden, denmark and Quatar.

    Actually Ireland holds top place for tea drinking and was first in 96 and 97 for calorie consumption ( I hang my head in shame ).
    Anyway getting back to the original topic I do know of a place in lower Baggot street that does exceptional coffee their also off Grafton street and probably in loads of other places, Cafe Perk, gorgeous coffee and beagels :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭colinsky


    Originally posted by Lolo
    As chains go, Pret a Manger is much better when it comes to quality and choice (especially for veggies and vegans), but their seating leaves a lot to be desired. Are there any in Ireland yet?
    You know that they're owned by McDonalds, don't you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭DapperGent


    Starbucks are good but when I was in Canada Second Cup were always way nicer. It would be nice to have them come over if for nothing else those frappechinco icy thingies good god i was addicted to them. But Starbucks don't let you smoke the fvcking nazis so they can never *really* be a proper coffee shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Corega


    Damn right, if I were to choose between meh smokes and meh coffee, smokes would rule any day :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 357 ✭✭Lolo


    Originally posted by colinsky

    You know that they're owned by McDonalds, don't you?

    I did hear rumours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Originally posted by alastair
    for someone like me, who just drinks iced coffee, Starbucks is a godsend. While Coffee Society do a decent iced mocha, there is sod all else worth drinking in this city (dublin)
    Now if only Lorraine could sort out the lousy service and indiffernet staff. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭Brian Bennette


    Junk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    There is a chain of coffee shops in Cork called Gloria Jeans, i don't know if they are in other places. Anyway there approach to coffee is the same as starbucks, they have loads of variety's of drinks and coffee beans and they allow smoking.

    On to another poing Ireland actually drinks the most litres per person in the following catagories , tea, milk and (fanfare)Beer.

    Finally why would you want a Starbucks here, have you not seen the Simpsons, I shall now try my best to do a transcript of what happens

    Bart is in the mall he stops at a tatoo parlor surrounded by a clothes shop on the left and a newsagents on the right. Bart enters and looks at the tatoos
    Tatoo Artist : "Better make a choice quick, in 10 minutes this place is a Starbucks"
    Time shifts forward and Bart comes walking out of the parlour with a tatoo on one arm and a starbucks cup in the other arm. As the shot zooms out you see the sign of the parlour being changed to Starbucks and as Bart continues walking you can see that every shop in the mall is now a Starbucks.
    Ickso Fatso :)


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