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Gary Breen, Colin Healy, Lee Carsley

  • 05-04-2002 9:53am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭


    What do you guys think of these players? Are they lynchpins of the Irish team or has-been bit-parts you'd rather see thrown out with the rubbish?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭four_star


    colin healy is deadly and hasn't been given a proper chance yet. as for gary breen he's terrible and isn't exactly playing with the most challenging opposition in division and he's not playing that well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    Healy is a talented young player. The best you can say about him is he is a bright prospect for the future.

    His experience of playing regularly in the 1st division this season will hopefully whet his appetite for 1st team football. And he showed he doesnt allow the situation to intimidate him in his international appearances.

    However he needs a full season of top flight football, before you can consider him to have 'arrived' as a footballer.


    Breen is an interesting football dilemma. Plenty of talent, but too little consistancy in his game. He has looked really good, and really poor for both club and country depending on what match you watch.

    He has had problems with his club managers and that doesn't help his cause.


    Lee Carsley is what I would consider a journeyman pro. Can do his job quite well. Limited in what he can do. Takes a decent penalty too. He's not a 'star' but he wil put his foot in, and give 100%.

    None of them would make my starting 11 for Ireland, but Breen would be closest. No harm in having them about though.
    Well thats my opinion, as an armchair manager !

    X


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭bucks73


    Again Breen is crap but Healy is a good footballer.

    When you have to choose a squad of 23 for the world cup there are always going to be a few bit part players for countries like Ireland. There just arent 23 very good players with Irish ancestry around. We are lucky this time to have excellent players like Keane (hopefully), Duff, the other Keane and Given to compliment the hard working guys like Kinsella and McAteer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭four_star


    Originally posted by bucks73
    There just arent 23 very good players with Irish ancestry around.


    too man foreign players in the irish squad, like mick mccarthy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭bobsmith833


    Yeah, I kind of agree with most of these comments. I'm actually a Coventry supporter (hence the question). Healy's been a revelation since we had him on loan but he will presumably go back to form an integral part of the Celtic team next season.

    Breen started off really well this year as the defence hardly shipped any goals at all in September/October. Lately though he had just not been interested at all as he's going on a Bosman at the end of the season (if anyone will take him). You'd think he'd try a bit harder, just to be in the shop window for the premiership clubs and Mick McCarthy but apparently not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭bucks73


    Maybe he thinks the World Cup will be his shop window.:P :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭bobsmith833


    Yeah, but there might only be 3 games in the world cup (and certainly no more than 7) and if he had an off day or didn't get picked or whatever, then his shop window would have gone and he'd end up signing for Millwall or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭bucks73


    Or even worse. city ;)

    Keegan probably thinks he world class.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭four_star


    both of those clubs could end up in the premership next season and i think that is as good as breen can hope for. can you imagine him playing for real madrid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭bucks73


    city will end up there next season. Its always great to win at main road. Sorry stadium of Manchester from next season.

    Breen at Real. Some clubs just cannot seem to find decent centre backs no matter how much they spend. United, Real, Barca.

    There was news recently that Martin O'Neill was interested in Breen. And I thought he liked his teams to be based on a good defence.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭bobsmith833


    Heh heh, not likely. At Coventry we used to sing "We all dream of a team of Gary Breens" to the tune of Yellow Submarine. That would be amusing - 11 lanky guys running out of the tunnel on Saturday afternoon, one of them wearing the goalie's top. It would probably still do better than the real Cov team though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭four_star


    there is also rumors of stam going to man. city


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭The_Scary_Man


    If I had to choose one of the three to take to the World Cup It would be Coin Healy hands down the other two are just not International class.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭king of fifa


    i think we might all know about healy's abilities come the end of the summer,given that Mr. Keane might not be going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭bobsmith833


    Is he really in danger of not going? Who else have Ireland got that can play in the middle of the park?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 irelandforever


    as reguards breen he is a certain to make the squad. he played in most of the qualifiers so mick is not going to drop him. he may even make the starting 11 although staunton and cunningham appear now to be ahead of him. carlsey will probley get the nod over healy but if i was picking the squad i would go for healy. i saw carsley a few times this season and he is a very average player, healy showed much more in the recent frendlies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭king of fifa


    I WOULD BE DOUBTFUL THAT HE CAN GO, THE WAY HE FELL DID NOT LOOK LIKE A HAMSTRING.FERGERSON'S "GET KEANE TO THE FINAL" RALLY CRY WAS NOTHING MORE THAN THAT (I THINK ANYWAY)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭bucks73


    If Keane thought he wasnt going to make the World Cup he would come out and say it.

    I dont think he going to try and pull the wool over a nations eyes.

    I have a feeling he will be around for the second leg against Leverkusen;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Colin Healy isn't a player for the future, he is a player for the present. From what i see of him he could play along Roy Keane(if selectable) in the World Cup......Or in centre half, where we are weak. Donkey Breen is crap.


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