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Linux Kernel Development.

  • 02-04-2002 12:11pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭


    Message from Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>

    Fellow hackers,

    For some time I have felt unappreciated by some members of the Linux
    community. Far too many of you like to whine and cry, saying "My patches
    aren't being accepted by Linus, but they are by Alan or Michael!"
    It seems that some of you are too stupid to follow the simple
    instructions that I have made clear on more than one occasion.
    This, combined with the fact that today is my last day at Transmeta,
    has prompted me to consider rediscovering that balance I had in my life
    before you all took my hobby and made it into a mass movement. I have
    not decided who should take over maintenance of the kernel myself, for I
    believe that this decision should be made in a quasi-democratic
    fashion. While democracy has not worked well with this group of people
    before, I am willing to give it one last chance.

    However, I do have some opinions on who should succeed me as leader
    of kernel development. I will provide my opinions below as I am
    entitled to do so. Below is an alphabetical list of my nominations.
    I include a brief explanation of why I nominated them and any concerns
    I may have. You all should do the same for your nominations.

    Alan Cox: Alan has done a spectacular job of maintaining the 2.2 branch
    ever since I embarked on the development branch. He would have been an
    automatic choice for this job, except for his childish refusal to
    travel to the US, where all the real kernel hackers hang out.
    Marcello has proven to me, however, that you do not need to live
    in a technology-rich country such as the US to be a leader of
    kernel development.

    Matt Dillon: Whenever someone moans about the 2.4 VM fiasco,
    I think to myself, "I wish Matt hadn't left the Linux kernel
    development for FreeBSD!" I believe that if Matt were to be chosen
    as leader, we would have had a sane and working VM on par with
    FreeBSD's months ago. While he has little leadership experience, he
    is a member of FreeBSD-core, a position which certainly demands
    respect.

    Eric S. Raymond: Being leader of kernel development involves
    fielding a significant amount of media attention. ESR has shown
    on many occasions that he can talk **** and still sound just as
    convincing as anyone on this list, all the time being completely
    oblivious to any contrasting viewpoints. While his
    kernel-configuration-adventure-game contribution to Linux just
    screams out "worthless bloat", I must admit to having enjoyed
    many a lonely night playing the game. If he could lay a similar
    interface over gdb, I'm sure that more kernel hackers would
    actually debug their work before submitting it.

    Richard M. Stallman: RMS has an exceptional track record in the
    open-source field, being largely responsible for my favorite text
    editor, compiler, and debugger. No other open-source hacker has
    come as close as he has to replicating the integration available
    with Microsoft Visual C++ 6 years ago. I fully endorse him as a
    candidate, assuming he's willing to drop his puerile "GNU/Linux"
    ego stroking.

    Theo de Raadt: Theo is an exceptional candidate. Not only is he a
    more than adequate hacker; he attracts exactly the type of people
    to OpenBSD that he wants, and will jettison those who are not up to
    the task. While purging out all the less-than-adequate hackers
    in the Linux project will inevitably attract negative publicity
    from Slashdot and other "community" sites where these feeble hackers
    hang out, it will no doubt strengthen Linux in the future. Just
    look at what Theo's strong leadership has done for OpenBSD! He
    turned around the worthless "research project" that was NetBSD and
    made it an enterprise-class firewall system. I can only imagine
    the effect his Midas touch could have on the Linux kernel.

    You have until the end of April 1, 23:59 Pacific Time to submit your
    nominations to the list. The most nominated person will become the leader
    of kernel development. I will examine the list of nominations and,
    assuming that the winner wants the job, I will hand full control over to
    them. I know that this is short notice, but knowing how obsessively most
    of you check your inboxes, I figure you should have more than adequate
    time to submit your recommendations. The decision will be final and no
    discussion will be considered after it has been made, so choose
    carefully.

    Thank you.

    Linus


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    FYI and AFAIK, Alan is organising a trip to Ireland at the moment (he's quite the regular over here). From what I can gather, he's coming to the People's Republic first (of course), and he's trying to get up to Dublin too. There'll probably be an announcement on linux.ie shortly.

    adam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭lynchie


    AFAIK, yesterday WAS the 1st April - Ring any Bells???

    Im not subscribed to the kernel mailing list but I did find this on groups.google.com.

    The mail was not sent from Linus at all :)

    Received: from pkdt.proxel.ru ([194.190.195.189]:21594 "HELO pkdt.proxel.ru")
    by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id <S310441AbSDAIHF>;
    Mon, 1 Apr 2002 03:07:05 -0500


    Linux Needs new Leadership


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭Typedef


    I could be wrong but, isn't the general wisdom that Alan Cox is the only actual contender?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    Gods, you're a gullible sod Typedef.

    adam


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭Typedef


    Well if it's a joke, it cuts very close to the bone.
    There have been people calling for Linus' head for the last few months and speculation has been rife that he will 'step aside' or allow a 'lieutenant' to make lots of the decisions he currently makes, yes perhaps you are right and it is a joke, but the joke stems from what I can gather from www.linuxnewbie.org a fair amount of speculation to the same.

    Black humor.

    Evidence the 'joke' is quite 'black' http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24245.html

    LinuxNewbie link http://www.linuxnewbie.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=005636

    If it's a joke, I'm not laughing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭logic1


    You have until the end of April 1, 23:59 Pacific Time to submit your
    nominations to the list.


    An obvious April 1st. Gullible doesn't even come close.

    .logic.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    There's been bitching and whining about kernel patches for an age now, but - as the Register article points out - the bitching is about the actual patching /system/ rather than Linus himself. A few kernel hackers want to put "lieutenants" in place to handle patch submissions, so the crap can be dumped and the good stuff handed on to Linus. I don't think Linus will be standing down for quite some time yet.

    LinuxNewbie link

    Well, what do you expect from a bunch of newbies?*

    SUCKA!

    adam

    [1] * Humour. linuxnewbie.org is a very handy site. Ugly as sin, but very handy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭Typedef


    Stick and stones won't break your bones, the bitching will suffice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭Hecate


    the mail header is a dead giveaway :)

    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.01.2002ApR11F0015.31337-101723@transmeta.com>


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    In a totally anal way, dahamsta requotes as:

    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.01.2002ApR11F0015.31337-101723@transmeta.com>

    [Cos it needs to be spelled out, cha no?]

    Eff.

    adam


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭Gavin


    Originally posted by Hecate
    the mail header is a dead giveaway :)

    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.01.2002ApR11F0015.31337-101723@transmeta.com>

    I would have thought that that would have explained it :)

    Gav


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