Nice simple question: Do you believe in God?

Bard

Nice simple question, isn't it?

Just to complicate it a little... by "God" there, I don't mean "some" god, or "a" god, or "the god within" or any such nonsence, I'm referring to the "God" from Christian beliefs.

Do you believe in "Him"?

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Just to get the ball rolling... I don't.

Like I said - it's a simple question - I'm not looking for reasons behind your beliefs either way- just curious about the proportion of yes to no.

- oh, and if you're a "don't know/not sure/atari jaguar" person... then don't vote... simple

koneko

I don't. Never have, never will.

For me religion is an opium for the masses (heard that somewhere once and thought it was the best description I heard so far).

Gambler

HeHeHe, no-one would think it if they knew me but I actually do... Have a very strong belief considering what a shít I can be sometimes

Saruman

Once i did, but no more!

paris

I believe in God

Boston

Bard i didnt think you could be this big a facist biggot, just because somebody doesnt share in your believe system of what a god should be, then their believes are "nonsence" that you one true god is the only form of god, to believe in or not to believe in.

Does this not contitute a gross generalization, which arn't allowed in any sensable debates

Just because i dont believe in the churchs line on god, i dont believe in him, bull**** of the highest degree

SheroN

ah but the real question one must ask!..does god believe in me?!
-sher

Terminator

You'd have to be a gummy taliban crone to believe the mumbo jumbo the catholic church have been sprouting for centuries so no I don't believe in the christian god.

I do believe in spirits and the afterlife though.

Gambler

D'OH! Yet again Mike doesn't read the post properly.. Defo don't believe in the Ole Catholic Tripe, Thankfully I escaped even being Baptised thanks to the ole parentals

TBH, I think that Poll isn't Fair Bard.. if you want a good idea of who is a "faithfull" catholic, make that your poll, not "Who Believe in God"

Now.. How do you change a vote on these damn polls

Saruman

Originally posted by Terminator
You'd have to be a gummy taliban crone to believe the mumbo jumbo the catholic church have been sprouting for centuries so no I don't believe in the christian god.

I do believe in spirits and the afterlife though.

Eh somehow i doubt Muslim Estremeists who believe and Allah and no other would give a Sh!te about what the catholic church thinks!

Saruman

Bard why do you refer to God as "HIM"? I mean did you not see Dogma?? God was not only a woman but Alanis Morrisette to boot!

Irish_Ranger_IR

Originally posted by Bard
Nice simple question, isn't it?

Do you believe in "Him"?

Or "Her" ?

You never know......anyway, If God does happen to be there, what would he say to this boards Tread?

Terminator

Eh, Saruman,

Everyone knows that Christianity, Judaism and Islam are fundamentally the same in varying degrees of stupidity

Shinji

Bard i didnt think you could be this big a facist biggot, just because somebody doesnt share in your believe system of what a god should be, then their believes are "nonsence" that you one true god is the only form of god, to believe in or not to believe in.

Read the goddamn question properly before going off on one. He's asking if people believe in the general concept of a single, monotheistic God, as laid out in the Bible, the Koran and the Torah. Taking offense at the way he phrases the question is beyond childishness.

obGod:

Nope. I fail to see the point.

Boston

then i suggest you read it again

, I don't mean "some" god, or "a" god, or "the god within" or any such nonsence,

it is hugely dismissive to catteries other peoples believe systems as nonsense out of hand. ive no problem with him not wanting to take into account these aspects, but the entire post wrecks of contradiction and bias.

You should know that but a single word can make the difference between, fact and generalization or truth and fiction.

azezil

Nope stoped believeing at the age of 17 ... twas a slow and uncertain process of rejection but i made it

Saruman

I have another question! one thats probably more important..
If you answered YES then my question is WHY?
Why do you believe in God? What makes you think that a being you can not see, hear, touch, feel in any sensory way actually exist.. and then argue why so many different peoples around the world believe in a completely different type of God! Are they all wrong except for you? Or is everyone misguided in some way?

Beruthiel

nope - I went from saying me prayers before I went to bed to complete rejection of everything - this happened at around 16 and now I believe in nothing whatsoever!

pat kenny

Originally posted by koneko

For me religion is an opium for the masses (heard that somewhere once and thought it was the best description I heard so far).

I think communist leader Lenin said that.

He also told some street kids once to ask God for some food and nothing happenend then he told them to ask the government for food and a truck came round the corner with loads of food.

I think he had a thing against god, maybe they fell out over a game of poker game or something.

chernobyl

nope.

I find fairytales are closer to reality than GOD.

azezil

Originally posted by Saruman
If you answered YES then my question is WHY?
Why do you believe in God? What makes you think that a being you can not see, hear, touch, feel in any sensory way actually exist

I didn't vote yes but just because you can't see / touch /hear / feel it doesn't mean it's not there. Eg. Atoms, before the development of electron microscopes we couldn't see touch them etc. but they were there... we just had no way of proveing it.

Your logic is flawed I win HA HA

TwoShedsJackson

No.

Saruman

Atoms though we know are there and we can see them and experience them! We cant with God, there is no way to even try!

Unless you take the Bible litterally and God is everywhere and everything in which case he could in fact be atoms and quarks and every thing in the universe and we can see him/it that way.. but if you believe in God, if you believe in the bible.. you cant think that!

scipio_major

Right before I say anything else, it was Karl Marx who said "Religion is the opium of the people.". Sheesh you'd think we had the American education system here .

Second I do believe in the Christian god. I agree that the Roman Catholic church preechs a lot of crap. Aparently the Pope is losing it and is on a crusade against Lawyers and the Sick. Good thing he ain't infalible isn't it? Still when you think about it there is very little that the RC church actually says about God, and most of that isn't dogma.

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Zero

If it ever was proved that God didnt exist, the world would revert to a stone-age/2001AD-Comic within a matter of days. I mean, why would I sit here and work for money (fair enough im dossing atm) when I can just shoot everyone in the office and take their cash. (and the boss' Merc). The cops wouldnt come after me, why should they give a fúck about their jobs/security etc etc. Society would break down overnight. God/Allah/whoever is actually the one thing holding this planet together in a way. But it couldnt be proved, so the last paragraph is just bull****.

Yeah, I believe in God. I'm technically a Roman Catholic, but like many of the God-believers posting here, I dont exactly take much onboard as regards the stories we were spoonfed when we were kids, or indeed the supposed rules we live by today. I think every catholic has his own personal set of beliefs, that differ from what we are supposed to believe to fit into the strict category of Catholicism.
Something that has always struck me as funny, was that with all the fighting and murdering between catholics and protestants down through the years, a lot of peoples' own personal beliefs probably differ more from the strict catholic belief than the protestants beliefs do, if you can understand that.
This poll should stay as a poll, and not turn into a "does God exist" debate, because it might well turn into the longest thread ever. You either believe or you dont. I do.

shotamoose

"God is a verb not a noun" - Mickey Dolenz

Saruman

This would be a lot more interesting if we were not asked to limit our oppinion to the Christian idea of God! If it was more along the lines of a supreme beaing or intelligence in the universe that while not creating the way Genesis portrays but was a catalyst for the scientific big bang sort of idea then we would have ourselves and interesting debate.

Typedef

Ich bin ein athiest.

Bard

Originally posted by Boston

Just because i dont believe in the churchs line on god, i dont believe in him, bull**** of the highest degree

I didn't say that. I asked do you believe in God. I said it was a simple question. I said nothing about the church's line on god.

Get over it.

Chubby

Originally posted by Zero
If it ever was proved that God didnt exist, the world would revert to a stone-age/2001AD-Comic within a matter of days. I mean, why would I sit here and work for money (fair enough im dossing atm) when I can just shoot everyone in the office and take their cash. (and the boss' Merc). The cops wouldnt come after me, why should they give a fúck about their jobs/security etc etc. Society would break down overnight. God/Allah/whoever is actually the one thing holding this planet together in a way. But it couldnt be proved, so the last paragraph is just bull****.

Have to disagree with you. Surely it's the law and the punishment dished out by the society/culture you live in that's the deterrent for commiting crimes. Modern societies are built on laws, not the fear of god. Also, I think most people (this includes religious folks) thinks more about the immediate consequences of their actions than what will happen after death.

DadaKopf

Bard: Why wasn't 'I don't know' or 'I'm agnostic' one of the options?

I've seen enough evidence for and against God (or divine power) that I'm firmly undecided.

Generally, though, I go for the "God is made in man's image - not the other way around" argument.

If there is a God, it's different to anything we have any access to knowing.

The whole argument is unproveable by its very structure - the only option is to suspend judgement but to inquire nonetheless.

Yurmasyurda

I don't really care if there is or not, not anymore anyway! I'm happy enuff to live without knowing.

phaxx

Nope, it all seems pretty rediculous to me.

Puck

Short answer: no.

Longer answer/explaination (feel free to ignore):
If there is some higher power I don't think it's right for religions to ruin it by putting rules on it and enforcing their beliefs and enterpretations of what this higher being is and wants on other people. I dont really have the faith to just blindly believe in something anyway. I'm one of those naturally curious (annoying little gits) that must find out why everything is the way it is.

[edit] Oh so many speeling mistakes!:rolleyes:[/edit]

mike65

Nope, I belive in people, nature, art and science, oh and Liverpool FC.

Mike.

wsquare

Religion's as man made as Pepsi Cola. How can anyone believe in god - it's beyond me.

But if it makes you feel better cause you're going to die some day and god's going to be singling you out and deciding on which direction you'll be taking, I say go with it. Me, I'll take my chances.
God's a great crutch in tough times and seems to be forgotten by most when things are running smoothly. Convenient belief.

I believe in a great glass(es) of Shiraz, an occasional cigarette, sports cars, travelling, nice clothes and good friends. Does that make me a hedonist or shallow? Are they one and the same?

Who cares - I don't believe in god.

Wsquare

PS - Why do they capitalize the 'G'in god and the 'H' in him?

Bard

Originally posted by DadaKopf
Bard: Why wasn't 'I don't know' or 'I'm agnostic' one of the options?

Because I couldn't care less if you DONT KNOW or are agnostic. I want to know if you believe in God or if you DONT believe in God.

I said it was plain and simple... what IS the problem that some people have in grasping that ???

Originally posted by wsquare
PS - Why do they capitalize the 'G'in god and the 'H' in him?

eh... I'd have thought that was obvious... it's as a sign of respect to their 'god'.

Captain Janway

Ithink that God does exist but he is on vacation at the moment.

Excelsior

I believe that the universe was created by the actual voice of God. Logos. I believe that it was set in motion by God. I believe that Man and his conciousness was produced to reflect God.
I believe that Man abused the free will of the universe and through his pride attempted to set himself up without God. I believe that this Fall was the 2nd most decisive moment in history. Before that all was peaceful. After, all is tainted.
I believe that to redeem His creation, God became Man. I believe that about 2000 years ago He was born, named and bred by an utterly average family in the town of Nazerath. I do not know for sure if He had siblings, I suspect He did. He was trained as a carpenter and at about the age of 30 He went out to fulfill His destiny. He chose 12 average men to help Him as He spread the Good News of God- the Logos.
I believe that He did many miraculous things, walking on water, calming storms, turning the snacks of a boy into a meal for thousands, and bringing numerous people back from the dead.
I believe that He was put to death by the leaders of His own people.
I believe that the Ark of the Covenant was revealed, that the skys went dark and that the Earth shook.
I believe that three days later the most important event in all history occured.
Jesus Christ rose from the dead to save the souls of each and everyone of us.
I believe that He appeared in public for a number of weeks, preparing His followers to go forth and spread the Good News to all the people of the world. I believe that at the end of this time He rose to Heaven, surrounded by the Angels of the Lord who sang on high before assuming His position at the right hand of the Father.
I believe that to achieve happiness in this life, and beyond, you must only accept that this man was in fact God.

Crazy idea. Fairytale. All of these things.

But as Lewis once said of this story, "It was lit by a light from beyond the world."

Saruman

Originally posted by Captain Janway
Ithink that God does exist but he is on vacation at the moment.

Here here.. has not been around for a long time.. hey you dont suppose the big bang killed him?

neuro-praxis

It's so cool to choose to disbelieve. I'm a big fat square.

scipio_major

Interestingly according to RC dogma even athesists can get to go to heaven by way of purgatory. The only condition is that you fear hell, hell being defined as being away from god. So basically an athesist who doesn't believe but wishs their was still going to heaven.

Yes it is slightly off the point, but interesting all the same.

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Bard

Originally posted by neuro-praxis
It's so cool to choose to disbelieve. I'm a big fat square.

I didn't choose to disbelieve... I just never chose to believe in the first place and was never convinced thereafter that believing was a good idea.

Neil3030

Yes.

Btw y'al might wanna check dis:

Mass - Do you go (Posted in the After Hours some months back)

SHAMAN

Originally posted by Bard
Nice simple question, isn't it?

Just to complicate it a little... by "God" there, I don't mean "some" god, or "a" god, or "the god within" or any such nonsence, I'm referring to the "God" from Christian beliefs.

Do you believe in "Him"?

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Just to get the ball rolling... I don't.

Like I said - it's a simple question - I'm not looking for reasons behind your beliefs either way- just curious about the proportion of yes to no.

- oh, and if you're a "don't know/not sure/atari jaguar" person... then don't vote... simple

There 's nothing simple about it you know, but as a matter of fact I do.

SHAMAN

I believe that belief however is not that important.It's the good deeds that count.(I know that Seán & Patrick are going to debate me to death about this later!)

DadaKopf

Originally posted by Bard
By the way... isn't existentialism groovy? :cool:

So then you did choose to be an athiest!

b20uvkft6m5xwg

YES

El Marco

I said no.

I don't think it's cool to be athiest, I don't consider myself athiest, I just choose not be a part of religion (even though that means I am athiest). The consept of religion is beyond me. It just seems the god is what people use to feel like they have a place in this world and not feel significant.

But when the next census comes around I know the religion slot will be filled in as Jedi

Cake Fiend

Originally posted by Typedef
Ich bin ein athiest.

Bad Grammar. Tut tut.

Originally posted by SHAMAN
I believe that belief however is not that important.It's the good deeds that count.

Humanitarianism? A practice of mine.


I don't personally believe in 'God' as a single entity, an all-powerful being, The Creator, i.e. the popular form of belief. I am, however, on the path to belief in an over-seeing 'being' (?) comprised of every living thing that makes up the population of this planet. Nature, Gaia, whatever you want to call it. I've used this view in many an argument over artificial intelligence and defining intelligence and sentience. An inter-dependant system of life force, each tiny change in this force leaving ripples, however small, across the entire living plane of existance on this planet.

From a human perspective, I've noticed that things generally seem to work out in the end - a constantly balanced system. I believe in what I call a twisted kind of karma - for every up there's a down, and vice versa, so that everything in life seems to balance out in the end.

P.S. - drunk while typing this, sorry if it fails to make much sense.

SantaHoe

It's so cool to choose to disbelieve. I'm a big fat square.

I am also a square, but I'm not fat.
Such a sinfull thread.

/me bashes you all with a Bible.