Objection to 666

Calman · 13-01-2002 2:43pm #1

Why did eircom (or someone in eircom and/or the government) pick
1800 666 666
for the Childline freephone number?! Why they choose
666 0000
for the barracks in the Phoenix Park?? Anyway I think we're owed a very good explanation for this by eircom and/or the Irish government.

Any views on this would be greatly welcome

MiCr0 · 13-01-2002 2:54pm

whats the problem with 666?

mike65 · 13-01-2002 3:51pm

666 is just another set of numbers, I always thought it amusing that the vehicle licening dept in the Dept of Environment won't allow registration plates to feature Satans pin code.

I supose they reckoned Irish roads are dangerous enough without tempting fate! BTW is it true that green cars are meant to be unlucky/cursed too? Just something I heard once....

Mike.

seamus · 13-01-2002 3:54pm

Just like skyscraper architects skipping floor 13 :rolleyes: dimwits.

Calman · 13-01-2002 4:04pm

This (especially 13:18) shows why I'm concerned...

[URL=http://]http://www.ebible.org/bible/ASV/Rev.htm[/URL]

And it's nothing like number 13 being bad luck

mike65 · 13-01-2002 4:20pm

Ho-hum:rolleyes:

Yep I'm an atheist, though driving for a living
should mean I'm anything but!

Mike.

Calman · 13-01-2002 4:23pm

I hear ya there Mike

Snaga · 13-01-2002 4:24pm

That childline number is pretty easy to remember though isnt it?

Not everything needs to be related to the bible/ church. Would you like the placing of 3 sixes in a row barred everywhere?

Its just another number.

Calman · 13-01-2002 4:27pm

You're mistaken Snaga
It's an easy number to remember but so is

1800 111 111
1800 222 222
1800 333 333
and so forth.

Yes I'd like it banned, there's no need for it.

Canaboid · 13-01-2002 4:50pm

Satan is coming for our children ?
Oh Dear.

thereal_unsane · 13-01-2002 4:59pm

Originally posted by Calman
Why did eircom (or someone in eircom and/or the government) pick
1800 666 666
for the Childline freephone number?! Why they choose
666 0000
for the barracks in the Phoenix Park?? Anyway I think we're owed a very good explanation for this by eircom and/or the Irish government.

Any views on this would be greatly welcome

right, we all know that 666 is the number of the beast. the barracks are located in Pheonix Park, as is the home of the president. There is also the Wellington monument erected in pheonix park. This obelisk is the tallest in europe. Obelisks are known to be symbols used by masons and other brotherhood/illumaniti/reptilian groups. i think if you tie this to the fact that when the pope visited Ireland, the place he met with the public was Pheonix Park, all ties in together.

As for the Childline number. Look to belgium for your answer. If they are looking for young children, where better to look than a child abuse phone line.

It all ties together.

Victor · 13-01-2002 6:16pm

Originally posted by Calman
This (especially 13:18) shows why I'm concerned...
[URL=http://]http://www.ebible.org/bible/ASV/Rev.htm[/URL]
And it's nothing like number 13 being bad luck

You link doesn't work properly. Also the number 13 does have a biblical reference. 12 is considered a lucky number because of the 12 apostles (hence 12 stars on the EU flag) and consequntly 13 was considered unlucky (12 apostles + Judas, Judas being an Apostle for a minority of the time the Apostles were around).

13:18Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man: and his number is Six hundred and sixty and six.

But the phone numbers are "six hundred and sixty-six thousand" and "one billion, eight hundred million, six hundred and sixty-six thousand, six hundred and sixty-six". Alternatively they are 6-6-6-0-0-0-0 and 1-8-0-0-6-6-6-6-6-6. Nowhere is there the number "Six hundred and sixty and six."

Oh and just to get you further paranoid. There are many 'beasts' (of all kinds

) in the Phoenix Park.

It's an easy number to remember but so is 1800 111 111

This is unlikely to be a valid number.

Overall I think you are over-reacting. there are better things to be done with your time. Go help a third world charity or a homeless shelter.

Bluehair · 13-01-2002 6:40pm

Originally posted by Victor
Overall I think you are over-reacting. there are better things to be done with your time. Go help a third world charity or a homeless shelter.

I agree, there are wwwwwaaaaaaaaayyyyy more positive things (and indeed Christian good deeds if thats your thing) you could be doing with your time than objecting to 'offensive' telephone numbers. Sheesh....

Keeks · 13-01-2002 7:30pm

it could have been a religious freak that choose the number for childline or someone who thought that it migh be a bit clever that that Satans number can actually help kids who are being abused by his followers.

btw ppl shouldn't really read into things, especially when it comes to religion.

yossarin · 13-01-2002 7:47pm

I allways prefered the book of
Leviticus

18:23 And thou shalt not lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith; neither shall any woman stand before a beast, to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

do donkeys count ?:)

as to 666 - maybe they wanted an 'emergency service' like number that was easy to remember, close to 999 ?

adnans · 13-01-2002 11:33pm

i think it's time to call on the bingo callers for a proper opinion on numbers. they should know since they spin that magic wheel so often. :rolleyes:

seriously though, its just another number.

adnans

Bard · 14-01-2002 4:46am

Originally posted by Victor

12 is considered a lucky number because of the 12 apostles (hence 12 stars on the EU flag)

Eh- no, sorry- but the 12 stars on the EU flag are not a biblical reference. They, in fact, come from the fact that there were 12 member states of the EU when the EU flag was originally conceieved.

They didn't update the flag when further states joined because it was just too much hassle and they couldn't be arsed, basically.

chernobyl · 14-01-2002 5:28am

How is the 12 apostles lucky.
didnt one of them turn on jebus?

Dr. Loon · 14-01-2002 8:44am

Those type of phone numbers - eg - 1800 666 666 are called "Golden numbers" in that they're easy to remember... that's all there is to it, another one would be 1800 123 456 although I don't know if that exists.
Rediculous conversation :rolleyes:

Calman · 14-01-2002 11:34am

Sorry about the link not working properly http://www.ebible.org/bible/ASV/Rev.htm if that didn't work again just copying and pasting should be fine

Bard · 14-01-2002 11:42am

Originally posted by chernobyl
How is the 12 apostles lucky.
didnt one of them turn on jebus?

That was Judas - the "13th apostle", who, according to Victor here, is part of why the number is 13 unlucky.

I dunno... 666 666 seems kinda appropriate for Childline... it's 999 upside-down, and hey - Satans special number, whatever - if you're calling Childline, then there's obviously something wrong.

Anyway, as a non-believer in God, Satan, etc. (which I am) why is there any significance to 666 being in a phone number at all ??? What is the problem with it?

Originally posted by Dr. Loon:

Rediculous conversation :rolleyes:

How true!

thereal_unsane · 14-01-2002 11:47am

Originally posted by Bard

Eh- no, sorry- but the 12 stars on the EU flag are not a biblical reference. They, in fact, come from the fact that there were 12 member states of the EU when the EU flag was originally conceieved.

They didn't update the flag when further states joined because it was just too much hassle and they couldn't be arsed, basically.

That is what they want you to think. 12 has always been a sacred number for the brotherhood, or illumaniti, whatever you want to call them. They constructed the whole story of Jesus and his apostiles as a means by which to elslave people in a mind controlling religion, ensuring that people will not stand against them when they finially make their move. The fact that the number 12 is sacred to them, as is the 666 symbol, is highlighted by the fact they choose to include 12 apostles. Hence the 12 stars of Europe. If want to look into it further, the "stars" which are used to symbolise Europe, are also pentagrams. Twelve symbolic pentagrams on efvery coin and note in all of europe. Just think of that the next time you are buying a can of coke....

I will let you discover the rest for yourself.

Dr. Loon · 14-01-2002 11:50am

Originally posted by thereal_unsane

That is what they want you to think. 12 has always been a sacred number for the brotherhood, or illumaniti, whatever you want to call them. They constructed the whole story of Jesus and his apostiles as a means by which to elslave people in a mind controlling religion, ensuring that people will not stand against them when they finially make their move. The fact that the number 12 is sacred to them, as is the 666 symbol, is highlighted by the fact they choose to include 12 apostles. Hence the 12 stars of Europe. If want to look into it further, the "stars" which are used to symbolise Europe, are also pentagrams. Twelve symbolic pentagrams on efvery coin and note in all of europe. Just think of that the next time you are buying a can of coke....

I will let you discover the rest for yourself.

You're nuts

Shinji · 14-01-2002 12:36pm

Mmm, I could be mistaken about this, but as I recall Judas was one of the 12, not the thirteenth apostle. 13 is considered unlucky partially because there were 13 people present at the Last Supper - 12 apostles and Jesus.

Regarding 666; I really feel that there are better things to be doing than losing sleep over a phone number being the same as a number cooked up by some dodgy hermit bloke with a bit too much fondness for opium and unusual mushrooms.

logic1 · 14-01-2002 5:41pm

Apostle
{uh-pahs'-uhl}
General Information

In the Bible, apostle is a title conferred on one sent with a message. The term is applied primarily to the original Twelve called by Jesus to accompany him during his ministry (Matt. 10:2-4; Mark 3:16-19; Luke 6:13-16). In the Gospels, other followers are called disciples. The title was gradually extended to others such as Paul and Barnabas (Acts 14:14; Rom. 9:1, 11:13); when this occurred, the Twelve were distinguished from all the apostles, as in 1 Corinthians 15:5-7.

Most of the Twelve were from the laboring class, with the exception of Matthew, a tax collector. None was from the religious sector of Jewish society. Peter, James (the Greater), and John formed an inner circle closest to Jesus; Judas Iscariot betrayed him, and Matthias was selected to replace Judas (Acts 1:16). The others were Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Thomas, James (the Lesser), Simon, and Thaddeus (Jude).

Judas was indeed an apostle.

.logic.

--Kaiser-- · 14-01-2002 8:47pm

I really can't believe anyone is replying to calmans post.
I despise ignorance

Victor · 14-01-2002 9:01pm

Originally posted by Bard
Eh- no, sorry- but the 12 stars on the EU flag are not a biblical reference. They, in fact, come from the fact that there were 12 member states of the EU when the EU flag was originally conceieved.

I never said there was a direct link between the flag and the bible, what I said was both are linked to the number 12 (no mention of stars) being considered lucky. It was consider for use on the flag because there was 12 members at the time.

Originally posted by Bard
They didn't update the flag when further states joined because it was just too much hassle and they couldn't be arsed, basically.

No, it's because they only ever intended there to be 12.

http://europa.eu.int/abc/symbols/emblem/index_en.htm

The European Emblem
In 1986, the European Council adopted the flag that has become the emblem of the European Union.

SYMBOLIC DESCRIPTION
Against the background of blue sky, twelve golden stars form a circle, representing the union of the peoples of Europe. The number of stars is fixed, twelve being the symbol of perfection and unity.

Victor · 14-01-2002 9:54pm

Originally posted by Shinji
Mmm, I could be mistaken about this, but as I recall Judas was one of the 12, not the thirteenth apostle. 13 is considered unlucky partially because there were 13 people present at the Last Supper - 12 apostles and Jesus.

I defer to Shinji.

adnans · 14-01-2002 10:28pm

mmmmm supper

Victor · 14-01-2002 10:43pm

Originally posted by --Kaiser--
I really can't believe anyone is replying to calmans post.
I despise ignorance

Originally posted by adnans
mmmmm supper

QED

TwoShedsJackson · 14-01-2002 10:57pm

I think this load of drivel has been going on long enough.

Objection to 666

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