New server, new boards.ie :)

regi · 10-01-2002 2:30pm #1

Hi Guys,

The new boards.ie is nearly here - we've installed the new machine and its just waiting for us to migrate the boards software and test it. We're hoping to begin migration and testing over the weekend, and go live next week.

The hardware is an impressive upgrade (from a P2-400 with 128 meg of ram to a dual P3-933, 1 gig of Ram + oodles of HD space) and its located in Ireland with Nevada Tele.com, who have a connection to the Inex. This should really improve the speed of boards, and should allow us to offer boards.ie mail, better members websites and all sorts of other goodies.

Hopefully, we'll have a nice smooth migration

Dan / Regi

Ronan|Raven · 10-01-2002 2:36pm

Sounds Great should be no more complaints of people getting slow connections to the site.

Lets all hope the migration of servers goes smoothly!

smoke.me.a.kipper · 10-01-2002 2:46pm

thats great news regi. pld admins!

Bard · 10-01-2002 3:01pm

I've a few tech questions, which I'll lob in an email to you when I get a chance... because, of course, the IrelandOFFLine site is hosted on the same server (you're not forgetting us, are you?

) For now, anyway...

Will our site be moving to the new server too?

If so - it's Linux, right? - will you be installing ChilliSoft ASP?

Cheers,

regi · 10-01-2002 3:10pm

Bard, I could never forget you

In the mean time, the old boards server is going to stay up, so all the other domains on that webserver will remain as is until boards itself is satisfactorily migrated.

The new server won't be running linux - it'll be running freebsd. I'll talk to you on irc about your scripting requirements

Kairo · 10-01-2002 3:14pm

Huzzah!

Will we be paying for boardmail/boardspace ?

Do tell us of these 'other goodies'

DeVore · 10-01-2002 3:32pm

Ah, thats an area I've been tasked with for my sins....

The fact is we dont know yet. There is a HELLOVA lot going on right now and its all good. Taking money from people makes everything more icky.... you have to think about Service Level Agreements, retraction of service (I cant just go 12 clicking!), Acceptible Use Policies, abuse/misuse of service, load on the server, bandwidth restrictions and workload of the admins to look after it when up and running. To name but a few.

That said, we DO have a mail server up and running and we will be providing webspace as ever (the migration gives me nightmares but we should be ok)...

If anyone has thoughts about this, let me know or post here. I want to avoid the Ireland.com trap but I think its a good idea all the same.

DeV.

seamus · 10-01-2002 3:53pm

There's a few ideas I've had about the whole mail thing since I first heard it brought up.

1. No-one pays for mail service, but it is restricted to participating members. Perhaps after 500/1000 posts a member becomes entitled to an address. OK, some people have been here a while, are well respected, but don't post much (odonnell_abu for example). Maybe there could also be a certain time + min posts requirement. Maybe ppl who have been here for about 1 year and have 200 posts? Maybe it could be up to DeV or Cloud - people ask personally for an account, and they determine someone eligibility. I dunno, I'm just throwing this idea out there, it sounds hardish to implement, but would save having tonnes of unused accounts gunging up the brand new server

2. People pay for the email account only, meaning that DeV is free to 12-click to his hearts content, as long as it is stipulated that the e-mail account and the boards.ie membership are not a package thing. Sounds simpler to me, but as you say, brings in other complications.

Just my 2 cents

The Cigarette Smoking Man · 10-01-2002 4:38pm

Originally posted by Ronan|Raven
Sounds Great should be no more complaints of people getting slow connections to the site.

Except for the people that live in Atlanta

Are Boards going to be paying per GB for the bandwidth? If so I'd make an allowance for an increase. Since most of the users will be very close to the server, they'll download the pages faster and more of them...

Also DNS records have a ttl of 24 hours, so when you change the DNS record for boards.ie it won't change for everyone at the same time. Depending on what ISP your on some people could end up seeing the old server for a day after the other one has gone live.

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 10-01-2002 4:45pm

Originally posted by Regi
The new boards.ie is nearly here - we've installed the new machine and its just waiting for us to migrate the boards software and test it. We're hoping to begin migration and testing over the weekend, and go live next week.

\o/
Great Stuff Guys.
Look forward to it

All the best & G'luck

Evil Phil · 10-01-2002 5:48pm

Don't give up your ability to 12-click Dev, please!

Puck · 10-01-2002 6:08pm

To sort out the nice guys (like meee

) from muppets and dead accounts you could make a once-off donation to Boards.ie a requirement for a Boards.ie email address. Of course the Admins would have a say on whether to accept this and allow the email account or not.

Perhaps a member could request an email address and the Admins would decide whether to allow the address or not, i.e. if it is offensive they could refuse it. If they give it the all clear then the member is required to make a once off payment to Board.ie and when ye get this payment the account can be set up.

This way ye would weed out the muppets, make a nice bit of money and still keep your right to 12-click whenever the member starts acting the muppet.

jd · 10-01-2002 6:17pm

Originally posted by The Cigarette Smoking Man

Also DNS records have a ttl of 24 hours, so when you change the DNS record for boards.ie it won't change for everyone at the same time.

So change them to an hour or so two/three days before the changeover :-)
JD

dahamsta · 10-01-2002 6:33pm

So change them to an hour or so two/three days before the changeover

Or move the site to shiny.new.boards.ie while the changes propogate?

adam

Boston · 10-01-2002 6:50pm

agree wit hthe post requierment for email accounts, and only one per account, that way we will be able to limit muppetry on the accounts, tell me will they by pop based?

MindPhuck · 10-01-2002 7:06pm

Nice one guys.

amp · 10-01-2002 7:13pm

Also please post the specs on the new server so us nerd types can drool and pant and generally get all sweaty. Or in Gerry's case probably point out that a quad P4 probably would have been a better option

Plyd
gl

I have no suggestions at this time, as I have been unable to hack Dev's Pc tonight. Soz

Stephen · 10-01-2002 8:00pm

Played lads. I hope we don't have to go playing the "Regi says Oops!" card

jd · 10-01-2002 9:13pm

Originally posted by dahamsta
So change them to an hour or so two/three days before the changeover

Or move the site to shiny.new.boards.ie while the changes propogate?

adam

always good to bring the ttl down before you move your domain.
isps are often getting queries about this-few threads in ie.comp about it
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:4MuYTBCQdlcC:www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/nag/node88.html+ttl+dns&hl=en
jd

RopeDrink · 11-01-2002 12:34pm

Looks to be quite promising indeed... Thou hath done very well...

The Cigarette Smoking Man · 11-01-2002 10:58pm

Originally posted by jd
So change them to an hour or so two/three days before the changeover :-)
JD

When's the move to shiny.new.boards.ie going to happen?

Edit:
Looks like it's on the way:

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=off&mode_w=on&site=195.218.115.65

Kopf · 13-01-2002 2:38pm

Great.. I actually came here to the admin board to complain about the slow connections, took me 10 seconds to view this post, and 16 seconds to view that post with lots of boards.ie statistics in it.

seamus · 13-01-2002 3:51pm

Ah yes, Regi had us messing about in the new server last night, and it was fuppin flying along. Wait 'til you get a load of it!!

:D

MiCr0 · 14-01-2002 5:12pm

and its working nicely

smoke.me.a.kipper · 14-01-2002 5:14pm

yes, extremly fast indeed. the main page login and side links need to be changed had to replace the 'www' with 'troll' on my personal homepage login script.

Kairo · 14-01-2002 5:20pm

Congratulations SMAK..your the first post on the new boards system!

Now let's all eat pie

www.boards.ie takes you to troll.boards.ie anyway

Its not gonna be troll.boards.ie for good is it?

[edit]AH! NO SIG. IMAGES?! THE APOCOLYPSE IS UPON US! WE'RE DOOMED!!!![/edit]

MiCr0 · 14-01-2002 5:21pm

Originally posted by MiCr0
and its working nicely

it was me!!

smoke.me.a.kipper · 14-01-2002 5:21pm

cheers kyro. if it stays on troll.boards.ie peeps will have to edit their sig images and links. like ive done. arn't i great??

also it seems the file manager on the hosted sites isnt working. i cant upload episode 1337 of live @ 3!!

Kairo · 14-01-2002 5:28pm

Originally posted by smak
cheers kryo. if it stays on troll.boards.ie peeps will have to edit their sig images and links. like ive done. arn't i great??

Ooo, cheater..but troll.boards.ie is only a test url

You misspelt my name..only Renton is allowed do that, the monkey.

DeVore · 14-01-2002 5:55pm

we'll be returning to www.boards.ie as soon as possible.
I understand the DNS is transferring as I type.

DeV.

smoke.me.a.kipper · 14-01-2002 6:00pm

great stuff dev!

Littletinyman · 14-01-2002 6:38pm

Played lads

gandalf · 14-01-2002 7:34pm

Damn now I can't go off and make a cup of coffee while a thread loads

Played lads, its bloody motoring now

Gandalf.

The Clown Man · 15-01-2002 2:41am

Yea, thx for all the work you guys are doing. The site is nice and swift now and its lovely to see pages loading within 10 secs

Keep up the good work.

Gerry · 15-01-2002 10:19am

Great job, it loads nice and fast here. Amp, regi already said its a dual p3 933. Tis good enough for meh

Evil Phil · 15-01-2002 10:31am

And we have * back in the dropdown menus.

Regi, whats the name for the webpage compression thingy you were using to reduce download time?

regi · 15-01-2002 10:49am

Hey phil - Its called 'gzip'

Evil Phil · 15-01-2002 11:14am

tanx

RopeDrink · 15-01-2002 12:11pm

Christ lads, now I can't bitch, whinge and moan about the slow load-up's due to people browsing / d/l'ing mp3's in the café while im checking boards... Then again, I suppose thats a good thing

Great Work Guys!

Victor · 15-01-2002 1:08pm

gg

Ronan|Raven · 15-01-2002 1:09pm

Well seems like the changeover went well, the increase in page load times is unreal wp lads.

New server, new boards.ie :)

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