George Monbiot In Dublin

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Passing this on for anyone who might be interested.

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Globalise Resistance are holding a forum on Globalisation on January 19th with George monbiot as the keynote speaker

All are welcome to come along and take part in the discussion and join in the fundraising gig afterwards where there will be a showing of the video from the Genoa protests in 2001.
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After Sept. 11...
What is the future for the anti-globalisation movement?
Keynote speaker: George Monbiot
(plus Deirdre De Burca (Green party Cllr) and Kieran Allen (SWP))

Wynns Hotel, lwr. Abbey St.
Saturday January 19th - 3pm to 5pm
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(venue for video showing/DJ gig to be announced)

George Monbiot has been named by the Evening Standard as one of the twenty-five most influential people in Britain and the Independent on Sunday as one of the forty international prophets of the twenty-first century. He is the author of Captive State: The Corporate Takeover Of Britain and the investigate travel books Poisoned Arrows, Amazon Watershed and No Man's Land. He writes a column for the Guardian and is Honorary Professor at the Department of Philosophy, University of Keele, and Visiting Professor at the Department of East London.

From 1993 to 1995, he was a Visiting Fellow at Green College, Oxford and from 1999 to 2000 he was Visiting Professor at the Department of Philosophy, University of Bristol. In 1995, Nelson Mandela presented him with a United Nations Global 500 Award for outstanding environmental achievement. He has also won a Lloyds National Screenwriting Prize for his screenplay The Norwegian, a Sony Award for radio production and the OneWorld National Press Award..

Biffa Bacon

Is he as intellectually dishonest as most other socialists?

Von

Originally posted by Biffa Bacon
Is he as intellectually dishonest as most other socialists?

Dunno. Why don't you pop along and ask him?

Victor

Originally posted by Biffa Bacon
Is he as intellectually dishonest as most other socialists?

Wow, really constructive. Based purely on his biography above, some people seem to appreciate him.

Sand

Great, another anti-globalisation rally to ignore like the rest of the world does.

Biffa Bacon

Originally posted by Victor


Wow, really constructive. Based purely on his biography above, some people seem to appreciate him.

Agreed. It was stupid.

CiaranC

Great, another anti-globalisation rally to ignore like the rest of the world does.

You didnt catch Genoa or Seattle on just about every major television news network in the western world then?

Sand

Yeah they were great riots. Just a pity they were completely ineffective. Even the developing nations wanted nothing to do with the rioters views.

shotamoose

There were around 300,000 people protesting in Genoa (on a wide range of issues, which mostly fall under the umbrella of being against the free-trade globalization project the G8 nations were so enthusiastic about). Do you think they all rioted?

They were effective in that they put pressure on, or at least made their cause more visible to, the G8 leaders (who are, after all, politicians who try to keep tabs on the public mood). they were ineffective insofar as the system of global capitalism failed to fall over and die, but I don't think anybody really expected that to happen on the day.

As for developing countries wanting nothing to do with the views of 'the rioters', that's an extremely vague claim. Perhaps you've got sources you can show us where developing countries expressed their distaste for the views of, say, Oxfam and Jubilee 2000, who were a significant part of the Genoa protests.

Sand

Pffft they achieved nothing except follow the grand traditions set by english football fans in foreign fields (They too were there for reasons other than violence and *all* of them didnt riot but ruiot they did). The G8 made a few concillatory noises and then ignored them.

They did however listen to the Unions etc from the developed world who attempted to aid their fellow workers in developing nations (i.e attempted to f*ck them over royally) by demanding the developing nations low wages etc be rectified by the WTO. The developing nations (recognising the attempt to f*ck them over royally for what it was ) told them to f*ck off as politiely as could be done.

See here....
http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/deb9-cn.htm

I actually didnt read that article to see the above attempted **** over, but rather by reading a review of the riots in Time. I did bother to feed in Seattle Riots Developing Nations into my search engine so you could have something to read.

The benefits of free trade are 1st year economics. The WTO isnt perfect by any means but its a step in the right direction, especially as developing nations continue to allow econonomics to guide their policies rather than nationalism.

Von

Originally posted by Sand
Pffft they achieved nothing except follow the grand traditions set by english football fans in foreign fields (They too were there for reasons other than violence and *all* of them didnt riot but ruiot they did). The G8 made a few concillatory noises and then ignored them.

Originally posted by Sand
Great, another anti-globalisation rally to ignore like the rest of the world does.

Originally posted by Sand
The benefits of free trade are 1st year economics. The WTO isnt perfect by any means but its a step in the right direction, especially as developing nations continue to allow econonomics to guide their policies rather than nationalism.

If anyone has anything intelligent to say about Monbiot's visit and the discussion he'll be part of (or at least anything more intelligent than the usual ignorant rubbish we hear when the debate on globalisation comes up) then we'd like to hear it.

Digi_Tilmitt

(edited)

Digi_Tilmitt

sorry for that last post i didn't actually post it. I'm at an Exhibition and there are a load of computers on the internet and when you go to boards on those computers they automatically sign in as me. I think there has been about 3 posts so far that weren't from me, ignore them. Sorry.

Sand

Digi you probably didnt log out from the boards when you were leaving. Its one of those "must-do" things when using a public PC.

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