Ispai

GoneShootin

"The ISPAI works closely with all government initiatives to ensure a vibrant and competitive Internet industry. A successful Internet and eCommerce environment is recognised as critical to Ireland's future success. The development of a coherent and co-ordinated cross-sectoral strategy in industry, educational and judicial arenas is essential to this stated objective."

guffaw !!

http://www.ispai.ie

pencil

I know the people who 'organised' this site, and I can tell all why it was set-up - this is story comes directly from the horse mouths.

Back in 1999 the media in this country had started banging on about the web being full of hackers, paedophiles & fraudsters, a general hazard to all the descent Irish folk.

The government wanting to look like it was on top of the problem went to the ISPs to discuss the issue. It was put to the ISPs that they could regulate themselves or the government could, the choice was theirs.

Easy, soon afterwards the ISPAI was set up by the ISPs.
Being a Irish solution, naturally the ISPAI is run from a answering machine and a website located on Baggot St. - no office, no secretaries, no people just an answering machine. It is the ultimate 'virtual organisation', set up for one purpose - if anything bad ever happens because of the internet, the government can point a finger and say.... 'but, but...... we set up the ISPAI in 1999'.

end.

I wonder is any taxpayers money going in to it?

Nice site though!

muchos_bongo

ISPAI was set up by marketing people in the various ISPs.

There was no technical input... We shouted, we weren't heard.

billy the squid

You want to know what the ISPAI was set up for i will tell you

every once in a while they get to gether and agree what to charge their customers so that they dont compete with each other too much and make as much money as they can out of their customers there you have it

It wouldnt surprise me if say eircom paid the likes of Osceanfree.net money to offer their service so that oceanfree customers would spend countless hours paying local call rates surfing the web.

dahamsta

Tsk tsk fcddunne, you're not suggesting that the ISPAI is some sort of cartel enabler are you? For shame!

adam

billy the squid

Well the way i see it these people are supposed to be COMPETING with each other not forming prissy little associations

They should be at each others throats offering the best service for its customers and stealing each others customers. Thats what competitions is all about

MS

But who are Eircom going to compete / fight with ? They have the monoply. They have once again successfully heald everything up for another year. I hate to say it.... but they seem to be the masters of bull and its working for them. The thing is Why ? There might be a lot of trouth in what fcddunne said.



MS

sceptre

The ISPAI were on the Late Late recently as part of a segment telling us what a scary place the Internet can be

(even though they've probably never been flamed by yellum or dahamsta, now that's scary)

Got the impression they had all the technical knowledge of my mother God rest her - the woman couldn't figure out how the TV remote worked.

Waste of space (no really - and it's not a comment I use often)

billy the squid

I think the ISPai were on that pap kenny programme talking about the availibility of porn on the net

you would think pap kenny would have taken them on his show to discuss something serious like why our IT network is behind that of the south pole

oh and mister kenny can find porn in three clicks. fiver says I can do it in two.

billy the squid

and yes I know the availibility of porn to children is a serious issue but no matter how many advisories and net nannies and all that crap they are going to get it anywy.

they know more about computers than their parents do

sceptre

There's a pretty obvious "solution" to the Net porn and your kiddies problem.

For me, it's easy - as a relatively tech-knowledgable person, I'd have filters stuck out all over the place and I wouldn't care if my really young children couldn't get into a page about brest cancer.


For most people, it's a two tier solution of participating in the Internet with their children, pointing out safe sites and recommended sites and educating them when young about the problems related to porn. And tell them they can do whatever they want when they're old enough. Don't put the damn PC in a badroom rather than a public room. Set them boundaries and make sure they don't exceed them.

And if a small info pack for parents came with the free Net CDs that might be a step forward.

The last thing you want (and it is happening) is for parents to either let their kids off looking up anything they want (thinking the Net is just a way to get rid of the kids like a TV) or refusing to get the Internet into their house because they think the whole thing is just one big pornography ring. Education is always the key thing.

Even a one-shot mailing to every house in the country would do more work than the ISPAI have been doing since they were set up.