Phone Bill arrived. One more kick in the nuts by Eircon

El_MUERkO

IR£146

Other than venting I'd be curious to know how much others are spending on their phones? I'm guessing £100-110 of my bill was on the internet, all off-peak.

[Edit]

And an extra EXTRA kick in the nuts is the raising of equipment rental from £1.32 to £1.77.

From 'For the record' (Marketing Bo***x):

This price change is necessary in order to cover the associated costs of providing this service.

richindub2

My last bill was 240 pounds, on a line just for my net connection and just used during off peak hours

R. Daneel Olivaw

That's what's so insane: exactly WHAT increases in the "service" of providing what is already in your home (the handset) means increased rental costs.

If anything, they buy the phones for say £20, and charge the monthly fee. How has their cost for providing for what is already paid for by them increased? It's utter madness, and pure arm-chancing.

dahamsta

I was away for over a week this month, and mine was [edited to clarify that the bill was for one month]:

IR£153.51/month

It's normally between £200 and £250.

Other than venting I'd be curious to know how much others are spending on their phones? I'm guessing £100-110 of my bill was on the internet, all off-peak.

I'd say about 95% of my monthly bill goes on Internet calls, as I tend to avoid using the phone where possible. I simply don't need it for the most part.

And an extra EXTRA kick in the nuts is the raising of equipment rental from £1.32 to £1.77.

Eh, so give it back? You don't have to keep the phone, you can drop into your local Telecenter and tell 'em where to stick it. Don't forget to get a receipt...

adam

EvilGeorge

well because I am a scabby git and get all the access I need at work my home bill only comes to £70.

Praetorian

£201.50


For the last 2 months

My bill has been upto £300 (per 2 months) at one stage. My aim is to have it down to £150 for the next two months. This is not because I cant afford it…its because I’m angry with Eircom. I now do all my heavy duty downloading at work.

BTW I work in a company that has massive phone bills. Like £1000-£2000 per month. Recently I persuaded one of the directors to change from Eircom to Worldcom.

Annoying people like me is going to cost you Eircom, feel my wrath!

po0k

I will. Seeing as how the phone coird was cut by the mother when a bill for £166 came in the door.
Funny thing was for the last month I've only being going online from college. And the month before that I purposely didn't go on half as much.
The last bill before this one was £157 and i know I wass on a good bit. i used that Netbuddy, properly configured the pricing.
I reckon I've been shafted by eircom.

Kill Kill The Deamon Mouse!

gandalf

£330


Now thats for 1 Analogue and 1 ISDN Line which means I pay £86 before call charges!

I am looking at getting rid of the Analogue line but Eircom being the Customer Service directed organisation they are cannot remap my number onto one of the 2 ISDN channels (now that may be a big deal I don't know but the fact they refused and were quite rude without giving an explanation as to why not has pissed me off)

Gandalf.

P R O F A N I T Y

£103, but i have weekend calls for my secound line, which is cps with ntl. Why would i have weekend internet calls when im on ntls service all weekend. i think they are thriefing from me and i plain to ring them tonight

kendragon

I switched over to Digiphone when i was getting no limits that time and never switched back...

My montly bills usually were around £80 a month... so i was paying about £160 every two months and a further £30 to eircon pretty close to the £200 mark.

Now i'm with Chorus and i dont pay any line rental... calls are as cheap as Eircoms and I use powernet, so i pay £40 for the powernet allways on internet and i'm guessing that my first phone bill will probably be about £12 at the most....

Bard

£110 ex. VAT for 1 month... making
£132.00 p/m

it's usually slightly more... anything up to £160.

now that I think of it, ADSL would be cheaper, of course...

not that that's an excuse for the pricing of ADSL!

SkepticOne

These are shocking amounts of money to be paying for basic 56K and ISDN. You can see why Eircom won't willingly supply ADSL at rates remotely similar to other developed countries.

dahamsta

£330

Yikes!

adam

kendragon

Originally posted by Bard
£110 ex. VAT for 1 month... making
£132.00 p/m

it's usually slightly more... anything up to £160.

now that I think of it, ADSL would be cheaper, of course...

not that that's an excuse for the pricing of ADSL!

Yeah but are you taking into account normal non-internet phone use with that amount? and you still have to pay your line rental with ASDL. It would probably work out more

Bard

Originally posted by kendragon


Yeah but are you taking into account normal non-internet phone use with that amount?

No. That's all Internet calls.

and you still have to pay your line rental with ASDL. It would probably work out more

Is this a fact???

tHE vAGGABOND

my bill 2 months ago was for £1100+ (for 2 months)

(some 'international' work during the daytime accounted for lots of that)

hence why I say ADSL would be a godsend for my house

SkepticOne

Originally posted by tHE vAGGABOND
my bill 2 months ago was for £1100+ (for 2 months)

(some 'international' work during the daytime accounted for lots of that)

hence why I say ADSL would be a godsend for my house

Just think, if you were in almost any other country in Europe you would be getting ADSL for £40-£50 per month (uncapped) but since people are willing to hand over vast amounts of money to Eircom for obsolete technology, this is not going to happen here. Seriously, if I were paying this sort of phone bill I would consider the emmigration boat. The really sad thing is that people are starting to accept the status quo here are starting to consider £200 for uncapped DSL "not THAT expensive".

Inf

My last bill was £220 (one month) with esat

SantaHoe

Although I agree that local call charges are utterly stupid as they are - you know (or at least you should know) what the call charges are, and use the service only as much as you want to be charged.
I have to laugh at people getting all upset over a £100 phone bill though, in comparison to what other people regularly pay for their net access in this country.
I'd love to get a £150 phone bill... man, that'd be sweet

P R O F A N I T Y

Originally posted by Bard

Is this a fact???

yes it is, eircom.net and eircom are seperate, the £97 you pay is to eircom net. the line rental goes to another department.

and it probably wouldnt be cheaper taken per mb charges into account

Dustaz

ill let yis know when i get my first bill:)


I had phone bills of like 200-300 before i got onto snl. When i was on SNL i was able to keep to purely offpeak use. So i think ill be able to control myself with the 3g cap (i hope) and so it will work out much cheaper for me.

acous

Originally posted by gandalf
I am looking at getting rid of the Analogue line but Eircom being the Customer Service directed organisation they are cannot remap my number onto one of the 2 ISDN channels (now that may be a big deal I don't know but the fact they refused and were quite rude without giving an explanation as to why not has pissed me off)

Hmm, we got this done on our line.. it didnt seem like a big deal to the engineer either.. "ok, i'll change it when i get back to the exchange".

Giblet

my bill is regularly over 400 and thats *not* including internet which adds another 100

sh*te is what i say

mike65

£121 of which only 80 is use of the phone line of that about
£68 is internet.

The rental charges are outbloodyrageous!

BArra

130 notes , lol *sigh*

ando

There must of been a mistake from my last bill. lately, I've been getting bills with an 'internet' section of the bill .... My latest bill was £11 (2 months) ? I use the net quite a bit (2 hours a day average) and was supprised at the £11 figure .. but not complaining although the total phone bill was £80.

PhilipMarlowe

IR£ 149.50 / month

ISDN home use only...
Internet calls account for 89.7% of the call charges....

Also nice to see the Govt. makes another £50 in the last 2 months in VAT on this... any chance of a 0% vat rate on internet calls, eh? Would that be an issue IOFFL could raise?

pete

Originally posted by P R O F A N I T Y

yes it is, eircom.net and eircom are seperate, the £97 you pay is to eircom net. the line rental goes to another department.

and it probably wouldnt be cheaper taken per mb charges into account

Hmmm.

A nice young lady in eircom ADSL sales told me not once, but twice that line rental was included in their DSL pricing a couple of weeks ago....


someone ring them up and record it

pete

Fergus2

Well I must say this thread is the best argument yet for eircom to not introduce DSL or FRIACO.

P R O F A N I T Y

Originally posted by pete


Hmmm.

A nice young lady in eircom ADSL sales told me not once, but twice that line rental was included in their DSL pricing a couple of weeks ago....


someone ring them up and record it

pete

Well a nice young lady, told me ADSL was a pipe dream, while another told me it would be out in March. You average eircom worker is about as intelligent as well trained monkey, and that’s how eircom like them

Kopf

My phone bill always used to top 200 quid, the lowest i remember it being was 180. I suffered because of my parents not allowing me to get IOL NoLimits for the entire time it was around, and then 1 week before it was totally taken off, i got signed up

I'm the luckiest guy alive

(well, actually there are a few others like me.. but hey.

exiztone

hahah, this is a tad pathetic, but I was just monitoring how much I used the net, so I could balance out one day with an other. but I counted up all the minutes I used the net + got the bill.
naturally, with esatclear, even though I got dissconnected alot at about 7 - 11pm but after about 12.30 it was fine, and thats usualy when I went on most cause of time difference between people I knew.
anyway4.00 hours, sun 1st july
1.15 hours, mon 2nd july
4.00 hours, thu 5th july
1.10 hours, fri 6th july
4.30 hours, sun 8th july
5.00 hours, mon 9th july
4.40 hours, tue 10th july
2.55 hours, wed 11th july
5.30 hours, thu 12th july
0.30 hours, fri 13th july
5.10 hours, sun 15th july
5.20 hours, mon 16th july
6.40 hours, tue 17th july
4.30 hours, wed 18th july
5.00 hours, thu 19th july
6.00 hours, fri 20th july
5.30 hours, sat 21st july
1.05 hours, sun 22nd july
3.00 hours, mon 23rd july
3.15 hours, tue 24th july
3.05 hours, wed 25th july
3.00 hours, thu 26th july
4.00 hours, fri 27th july
7.05 hours, sun 29th july
4.50 hours, mon 30th july
5.55 hours, tue 31st july
5.35 hours, thu 2nd august
6.35 hours, fri 3rd august
6.55 hours, sat 4th august
2.50 hours, sun 5th august
3.50 hours, mon 6th august
4.35 hours, tue 7th august
5.50 hours, wed 8th august
7.00 hours, thu 9th august
0.05 hours, fro 10th august
1.45 hours, sun 12th august
7.10 hours, mon 13th august
2.20 hours, tue 14th august
8.00 hours, wed 15th august
2.55 hours, thu 16th august
7.05 hours, fri 17th august
1.35 hours, sat 18th august
6.30 hours, mon 20th august
6.55 hours, tue 21st august
4.40 hours, wed 22nd august
6.50 hours, thu 23rd august


that was after I got d/c from esat
I was using oceanfree with an eircon line
cost me just over £100 for that
****ing hell I hate those ****s
My mother got so pissed she cut me down to every few days for 30 mins

dont cry for me
I'm already dead

hmmm

Originally posted by Fergus2
Well I must say this thread is the best argument yet for eircom to not introduce DSL or FRIACO.

And when you consider that BT offer 24x7 access for around 10 quid, you begin to realise the absolute and utter pillage of Irish users by Eircrap.

Digi_Tilmitt

God, I use about £20 a month and I thought I was really bad. Then again I am 14 and don't have a job. £20 is like 90% of my income...............dam Eircom.

Kristok

Originally posted by hmmm


And when you consider that BT offer 24x7 access for around 10 quid, you begin to realise the absolute and utter pillage of Irish users by Eircrap.

Dont forget that BT only offer that now ONLY because of the competition in the British market place. Until that happened they where much like Eircom are now, and who can really blame them when it was so easy for them to get away with it. Hopefully the competition from cable and satalite as well as the other telcos will force eircom to become the customer friendly company with rock bottom prices that BT was forced to become. Then again who can hold their breath that long.

popinfresh

My Da has allowed for £80 on the bill for internet (educational purposes), . But still, no way should any1 pay that for 2 hours of internet a day. Ireland still, in the 21'st century seems to be "the land that time forgot", and it's mostly because of Eircon...:mad:

hmmm

Originally posted by Kristok
Dont forget that BT only offer that now ONLY because of the competition in the British market place.

Actualy, FRIACO was imposed on them by the UK regulator. Don't hold your breath waiting for the ODTR to impose anything similar, as far as she's concerned her involvement is finished (yes of course we don't have flat rate and it's not going to happen under the current conditions - the ODTR live on their own little moon orbiting pluto as we well know)

Victor

About £100 a month on intenet in a half dozen different cafes.
About £30 a month on my mobile (Esat Speakeasy) including business calls (the trick is to use a different service provider during the day).

Kristok

Originally posted by hmmm


Actualy, FRIACO was imposed on them by the UK regulator

True but FRIACO was only even imposed by the regulator because AOL persued the matter (I believe in the courts). Pitty they are not one of the big ISP's in Ireland cause I wouldent expect Esat to bother because they seem content blaming Eircom on everything. Its a case of point the finger at each other and pull in the silly amounts of profit

gurramok

got bill today..

£130 per month for isdn home net access :mad:

amazing thing is that so-called isdn bonus actually gave me an unexpected discount of £12...(i refuse to refer to isdn as hi-speed)

so whoever still don't know about that bonus thing...sign up for up now !!

95.5% of the call charges are for internet.

+ £24 /mnth for eircom.net ISP subscription :mad:
/me can't feckin wait for competition....

To EircoN, as u read these boards, y the hell should anyone pay FIVE times for adsl here than in UK ??

yankinlk

our last isdn only bill was over £500.00/month

the good news? at this very moment a Chorus worker is sticking an antennae on our roof and I am looking forward to the phone call to tell EIRCON to go stick their isdn up their fat hole...

...they will probably ring back a month later asking why we choose to leave their service....(they did this when i did same for my home)

dahamsta

I am looking forward to the phone call to tell EIRCON to go stick their isdn up their fat hole...

You go girl...

...they will probably ring back a month later asking why we choose to leave their service....(they did this when i did same for my home)

Please explain to them in graphic detail. Better, tell them IrelandOffline made you do it...

adam

P R O F A N I T Y

Rang eircom CS today, was put on hold and they played a song.
ITs going to take an eternity to break us, I feel over laughing, I wonder if they were trying to tell me something

Oak3

you know what...just the posters on this thread could buy a leased line, set up a WAN ,start a company called Fat Hole.net and beat the suckers at their own game.

Do I get a job? im doing a feasability study as we speak!

Dazzer

Haha I beat ya all, £500 quid for my last bill second highest ever My bills average around 300 quid

kamobe

Last bill was £250 , which was the highest so far this year.
Noticeable increase after the No limits fiasco, gonna cut down i guess

TomF

My recent Eircom bill was £35, my present Esat bill is £77. I use IOL Gold for all Internet connecting. I think my biggest bill was in June, 1997 for £300 from Eircom, but that was a two-monthly bill, and they were charging 9.5 pence a unit. Although prices have gone down, it looks like my use has gone up and on a two-monthly basis I'm spending about the same. :mad:

logic1

£165...

£80 internet..

.logic.

segadreamcast

340

340 per month *tut tut tut* looks like I'm living on military rations for another year then :eek:

Pimp Ninja

Originally posted by gandalf
I am looking at getting rid of the Analogue line but Eircom being the Customer Service directed organisation they are cannot remap my number onto one of the 2 ISDN channels (now that may be a big deal I don't know but the fact they refused and were quite rude without giving an explanation as to why not has pissed me off)
Gandalf.

Here's an idea for you.. unsubscribe from the ISDN.

Then Upgrade the analogue line to the ISDN one..

As for phone Bills Mnes about £250 PM on one analogue line.

IKiigan

My most recent Eircom ISDN bill was approximately £505 IEP.

I called them and said "That's a lot of money, is it cool if I pay it about 2 weeks later than listed on the bill?" "Sure, no problem". As a valued Eircom customer for over 6 years I expected no less.

Until ... they cut me off on the following Friday evening. I was livid. I call them up being rather annoyed. "We can't re-connect you until you pay the bill". So I said - "Right, can I pay over the phone?". "Laser only". "You don't take Visa? It's quite popular these days". "No, sorry". Super.

Anyway my persuasive / persistant telephone technique got them to connect me within 20 minutes WITHOUT me paying the bill. Just to show people - it can be done if you are firm, and persistant, but polite.

I really really need to leave this country and go somewhere where I can afford to live and work. > £500 for fupping net access is a joke.

That might merit another day's discussion ...

Ian