What would you do?

Mark J

Real Money Ring Game
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
Marathon Man 4914773-17401 Holdem No Limit $1/$2
[Nov 4 21:10:46] : Hand Start.
[Nov 4 21:10:46] : Seat 1 : OPAUL has $162
[Nov 4 21:10:46] : Seat 2 : spasm has $67.33
[Nov 4 21:10:46] : Seat 3 : Mark J has $118.75
[Nov 4 21:10:46] : Seat 6 : docymd has $610.73
[Nov 4 21:10:46] : Seat 7 : Uofmgoblue has $200.75
[Nov 4 21:10:46] : Seat 8 : PayForSee has $224
[Nov 4 21:10:46] : Seat 9 : starwell has $109.25
[Nov 4 21:10:46] : docymd is the dealer.
[Nov 4 21:10:49] : Uofmgoblue posted small blind.
[Nov 4 21:10:53] : PayForSee posted big blind.
[Nov 4 21:10:53] : Game [17401] started with 7 players.
[Nov 4 21:10:53] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Nov 4 21:10:53] : Seat 3 : Mark J has Kd Qd
[Nov 4 21:10:55] : starwell folded.
[Nov 4 21:10:56] : OPAUL folded.
[Nov 4 21:10:58] : spasm called $2
[Nov 4 21:11:00] : Mark J called $2 and raised $3
[Nov 4 21:11:00] : docymd folded.
[Nov 4 21:11:04] : Uofmgoblue called $4
[Nov 4 21:11:04] : PayForSee folded.
[Nov 4 21:11:06] : spasm called $3
[Nov 4 21:11:06] : Dealing flop.
[Nov 4 21:11:06] : Board cards [Qs 6c 4s]
[Nov 4 21:11:10] : Uofmgoblue checked.
[Nov 4 21:11:15] : spasm bet $5
[Nov 4 21:11:21] : Mark J called $5
[Nov 4 21:11:27] : Uofmgoblue called $5
[Nov 4 21:11:28] : Dealing turn.
[Nov 4 21:11:28] : Board cards [Qs 6c 4s Tc]
[Nov 4 21:11:33] : Uofmgoblue bet $20
[Nov 4 21:11:46] : spasm called $20 and raised $20
what do ya do?

Ste05

fold

DapperGent

fold

Lafortezza

flod

Ste05

anyone with a different line - lol

Culchie

Villian is a bit of a maniac though .....fold:)

Davey Devil

Why is it even a question?

bohsman

If you had asked a question on the flop youd have a better idea

Ste05

On the flop, (if I had raised this amount pre-flop), I think I'd re-raise to $20, but it would be dependant on who the opponents were....

Tackle

Fold. Would've reraised the flop.

Lafortezza

Raising the flop should be automatic, plus the preflop raise should be a bit bigger maybe?

Mark J

i folded , as mentioned by numreous others.... here`s what happened.

[Nov 4 21:11:53] : Mark J folded.
[Nov 4 21:11:56] : Uofmgoblue called $20 and raised $150.75 and is All-in
[Nov 4 21:12:03] : spasm called $17.33 and is All-in
[Nov 4 21:12:03] : Showdown! [Nov 4 21:12:03] : Seat 2 : spasm has 9s Qc
[Nov 4 21:12:03] : Seat 7 : Uofmgoblue has Ac Ks
[Nov 4 21:12:08] : Board cards [Qs 6c 4s Tc 6d]
[Nov 4 21:12:09] : Seat 7 : Uofmgoblue has Ac Ks
[Nov 4 21:12:09] : Uofmgoblue has Pair: 6s
[Nov 4 21:12:09] : Seat 2 : spasm has 9s Qc
[Nov 4 21:12:09] : spasm has Two Pair: Queens and 6s
[Nov 4 21:12:09] : spasm wins $143.66 with Two Pair: Queens and 6s
[Nov 4 21:12:20] : Hand is over.

was it a good fold!?!

Mark J

Davey Devil wrote:

Why is it even a question?

does this even warrant a reply!?!

i`m looking for how other people would take the play and what they`d do!?
fairly fcuking obvious why i asked the question, lucipher.

i thought it was fairly obvious for christ sake!

maybe I shouldn`t have asked a question and made it into a crossword or sudoku for ya!?!

Mark J

i was gonna put it in the music forum but opted for here cos i thought it had more relevance here.

Mark J

Tackle wrote:

Fold. Would've reraised the flop.

re-raise the flop and then be stuck with whether to call this lunatics $150 all-in???

i did clear him out later, though.

*sweet sigh to myself*

kinaldo

i guess that because the answer is so obvious it doesn't really warrant a question - fold

Mark J

kinaldo wrote:

i guess that because the answer is so obvious it doesn't really warrant a question - fold

ba-boom-chish!!!

so i made the right move , yea. is that the conclusion?

Tackle

There was nothing wrong with the fold, the mistake was on the flop. If I knew the two villains were idiots, I still wouldn't call the turn because when both of them have shown strentgh most of the time they will have you beat here, even though they didn't this time.

Tackle

Mark J wrote:

re-raise the flop and then be stuck with whether to call this lunatics $150 all-in???

i did clear him out later, though.

*sweet sigh to myself*

I doubt very much Uofmgoblue is going to go all in here if you reraise the flop. They'd both just call (if spasm went all in, you could decide whether it's worth calling based on your read). Then when it's checked to you on the turn, another bet would of got rid of Uofmgoblue and it's just you and spasm on the river.

Lafortezza

Mark J wrote:

i`m looking for how other people would take the play and what they`d do!?
fairly fcuking obvious why i asked the question, lucipher.

i thought it was fairly obvious for christ sake!

No abuse please, and try to get all your points and replys across in one post if possible. If you have top pair and there's a bet and a raise before you it's generally very likely that you're way behind. Not always, one punter might be on a draw and one might have top pair too but I think calling and staying in the hand is a long term loser.

padser

lafortezza wrote:

No abuse please.

In fairness devils comment looked like it was meant to incite. If you have nothing constructive to add to a thread you may as well keep out. (in my earlier boarding i havnt always kept to this myself :rolleyes: )

Culchie

Tackle wrote:

I doubt very much Uofmgoblue is going to go all in here if you reraise the flop. They'd both just call (if spasm went all in, you could decide whether it's worth calling based on your read). Then when it's checked to you on the turn, another bet would of got rid of Uofmgoblue and it's just you and spasm on the river.

Nothing would have got rid of Uofmgblue....he's a maniac

Hectorjelly

This hand is MUCH harder to play because of the preflop almost raise. It inflates the pot but doesnt cut the field down.

Ste05

Hectorjelly wrote:

This hand is MUCH harder to play because of the preflop almost raise. It inflates the pot but doesnt cut the field down.

Absolute Fact!!! Either raise properly, call or fold. All fine plays depending on the players you're up against and how you intend to proceed in the hand. This micro raise makes the hand very difficult to play on later streets.

Mark J

Ste05 wrote:

Absolute Fact!!! Either raise properly, call or fold. All fine plays depending on the players you're up against and how you intend to proceed in the hand. This micro raise makes the hand very difficult to play on later streets.

i think padser noticed the post to which i threw in a F but i don`t think it was unwarranted.

point taken as to abuse and replying in one thread, Lafor.

didn`t know what type of players i was up against but i just thought i`d post it as i folded the best hand against 2 lunatics.

i think if i raised more (and after playing with them for another while) they`d have still called and i would have folded for a bigger raise, as mentioned.

i`m no pro/expert, don`t pretend to be and appreciate constructive comments as above and as HJ had initially given, so thanks.

see ye tonight on VC or PPP! (once the oul doll goes to bed!)

Mark.

Tackle

Culchie wrote:

Nothing would have got rid of Uofmgblue....he's a maniac

Even if he didn't fold to a bet on the turn and mark had reraised the flop, he would still have only called and not hit anything. He just called the flop, but then lead out on the turn because no-one showed any strength and he had a gutshot to go with his overcards.

Tackle

Mark J wrote:

i think if i raised more (and after playing with them for another while) they`d have still called and i would have folded for a bigger raise, as mentioned..

Yes, they would've called, not bet/raised which would've left the iniative with you and given them the decision of whether to fold or not.