geting fed up- moan

jem

I am not whinging here, well maybe just a bit.I only play live games for money.
I am on a **** run at present,
last night for example:
Raised before me I had 10/10 called,
flop q/2/5, he bets I call , turn 7 same, river 9 he bets I call he turns 9/9 for trips.
Few hands later ak s , I raise, called by short stack, flop a,6,9 rainbow , He goes all in , I call he had 7/7 turn,5,river 8- he gets straight.
I am no cripled, get a/j run into k/k.
Nexct game,play well slop play triip 10's to double up, stread all game, comes to3 left, card dead, best hand in 10 was 10/8 off. heads up 7/8 suited flop kj7 I go all in he calls eventually with j2 off, his jacks win.
In new casino, raise with AQ called by a5 cause they were suited, flop a + two rag spades. I push he calles, hits flush.

Prev night, aces cracked , in heads up by kj hitting a jack high straight.
trip queens by a6 straight (4 runners.)

Its some of above are bad beats some aren't its just that every race I am loosing, I recon both nights I played well, made f all mistakes. cant think of a hand I would have played differently in the circumstances except the aq should have gone all in pre flop.
Totally pissed off though. badly need a win havn't won in ages.

Dub13

One of the biggest tools in my game is the brake,after a run like you just had or if I just feel that I am not playing well I will walk away from poker for a week or two.It makes a big difference when you come back.

IMO,No point trying to play through it as you will lose to much money.

Thats my 2 cent's.

ntlbell

I don't really know why your posting this.

If you want advice on some of the hands, you're not posting enough information, if you're just moaning about a bad run in general people don't want to hear about it.

So I'm a little lost, maybe give it a break for awhile or take up chess or a game that has no luck involved.

padser

I know how you feel Jem. I cant remember who's blog i was reading about Poker being like a cheating Gf that you just cant stop forgiving and going back for more. It was a great way to put it anyway.

What can you do except try and ride it out? Just remember this the next time your JJ cracks the rockets though!

ntlbell

padser wrote:

I know how you feel Jem. I cant remember who's blog i was reading about Poker being like a cheating Gf that you just cant stop forgiving and going back for more. It was a great way to put it anyway.

What can you do except try and ride it out? Just remember this the next time your JJ cracks the rockets though!

Mike Lacey's blog IIRC

padser

Thanks, i would have used the search function to find it..............:rolleyes:

jem

ntlbell wrote:

I don't really know why your posting this.

If you want advice on some of the hands, you're not posting enough information, if you're just moaning about a bad run in general people don't want to hear about it.

So I'm a little lost, maybe give it a break for awhile or take up chess or a game that has no luck involved.

In fairness I did put in the title that it was a moan. Just needed to get it off my chest. at least I am doing what I think are the right things. Had a run like it once before and the problem was by the end I had lost confidence and wasn't making the right moves because of being scared.

Strange thing - we are playing 3 years now or there abouts. I have never, ever won a night that I won the first pot,this has followed through in tourneys and our home game. It has become a laugh now with all the lads knowing about it. Can't explain it at all.

NickyOD

jem wrote:

I am not whinging here, well maybe just a bit.I only play live games for money.
I am on a **** run at present,
last night for example:
Raised before me I had 10/10 called,
flop q/2/5, he bets I call , turn 7 same, river 9 he bets I call he turns 9/9 for trips.
Few hands later ak s , I raise, called by short stack, flop a,6,9 rainbow , He goes all in , I call he had 7/7 turn,5,river 8- he gets straight.
I am no cripled, get a/j run into k/k.
Nexct game,play well slop play triip 10's to double up, stread all game, comes to3 left, card dead, best hand in 10 was 10/8 off. heads up 7/8 suited flop kj7 I go all in he calls eventually with j2 off, his jacks win.
In new casino, raise with AQ called by a5 cause they were suited, flop a + two rag spades. I push he calles, hits flush.

Prev night, aces cracked , in heads up by kj hitting a jack high straight.
trip queens by a6 straight (4 runners.)

Its some of above are bad beats some aren't its just that every race I am loosing, I recon both nights I played well, made f all mistakes. cant think of a hand I would have played differently in the circumstances except the aq should have gone all in pre flop.
Totally pissed off though. badly need a win havn't won in ages.

Slumps happen james. Roll with it. First hand raise or fold. Callthing on 3 street is really bad there.


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ntlbell

jem wrote:

In fairness I did put in the title that it was a moan. Just needed to get it off my chest. at least I am doing what I think are the right things. Had a run like it once before and the problem was by the end I had lost confidence and wasn't making the right moves because of being scared.

Strange thing - we are playing 3 years now or there abouts. I have never, ever won a night that I won the first pot,this has followed through in tourneys and our home game. It has become a laugh now with all the lads knowing about it. Can't explain it at all.

No worries, like has been posted it happens to us all I don't play for a living so I can just knock it on the head for two weeks and come back to it fresh, if your happy with your play and your not making mistakes there's not alot you can do.

As nicky pointed out I didn't like the call post-flop or the turn with 10 10
Apart from that hand it just looks like bad luck

RoundTower

NickyOD wrote:

Slumps happen james. Roll with it. First hand raise or fold. Callthing on 3 street is really bad there.


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Not sure what you mean by 3 street but I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with the way he played it. Although like ntl said he clearly doesn't want advice on the hands, just wants to moan a bit.

ntlbell

RoundTower wrote:

Not sure what you mean by 3 street but I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with the way he played it. Although like ntl said he clearly doesn't want advice on the hands, just wants to moan a bit.

I think by 3rd st he meant the flop, but anyway.

The guy raised pre-flop, Q high flop and he seems to like it, without knowing positions size of the raises/bets and stack sizes etc etc, I don't like to call here, what are you going to do ? call another bet on the turn and river? what are you hoping for on the turn/river another 10?

I would prefer to re-raise and find out where I stand, eithier take the pot with the re-raise or get out of dodge

Ste05

RoundTower wrote:

Not sure what you mean by 3 street but I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with the way he played it. Although like ntl said he clearly doesn't want advice on the hands, just wants to moan a bit.

I think he should have raised the flop or the turn, played it too passively IMHO

NickyOD

RoundTower wrote:

Not sure what you mean by 3 street but I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with the way he played it. Although like ntl said he clearly doesn't want advice on the hands, just wants to moan a bit.

I meant 3 streets. On this flop he could be way behind., He needs to raise to see where he is at.

jem

i had him on a small pp or ak, the bet on flop didn't sit with me that he had a Q, turn same leaving the river!!!!. he bet €1000 into a pot of €2600 . I had to therefore 3.6/1 of pot odds.
was tempted to reraise but he is as likely to reraise again with just about any two cards so wouldn't give me much info.
Got him in next game though.
only a couple of hands in .
I blinds 100/200 I raised to 1000 mid position A/10s , he reraised me a further 1000, I called,
Flop 10/10/8. He bet 1500, I thought for a while, said - kev I think you have f all of that , all in. he called and turned jj I had trips that stood up.

RoundTower

NickyOD wrote:

I meant 3 streets. On this flop he could be way behind., He needs to raise to see where he is at.

He could be way behind. By raising he will lose the amount of his raise if he is way behind. Possibly more, if his opponent will call the raise and value bet the river.

He could be way ahead. If he calls, his opponent may bet all three streets with AK, but fold to a raise.

If he had known his opponents cards he would have played it exactly as he did (obviously fold the river). It's not the right play against every possible hand you could put the opponent on, but against certain opponents, it is the right play against their range of hands.

NickyOD

RoundTower wrote:

He could be way behind. By raising he will lose the amount of his raise if he is way behind. Possibly more, if his opponent will call the raise and value bet the river..

It's damage limitation He'll lose a lot more by calling down on 3 streets when he is behind all the way OR let his oponent catch up. If he wants to get to a cheap showdown this is not the way to do it.

RoundTower wrote:

He could be way ahead. If he calls, his opponent may bet all three streets with AK, but fold to a raise.

If he had known his opponents cards he would have played it exactly as he did (obviously fold the river). It's not the right play against every possible hand you could put the opponent on, but against certain opponents, it is the right play against their range of hands.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking down a pot early when you know you are ahead. His hand is simply not powerful enough to try and get cute and extract more.

jem

THe problem is that dusty could do almost anything against me. had I reraised pre flop he would very likely have called or reraised again .
His range would be anything from ace rag upwards.( he loves an ace). So I don';t thing a reraise would have done anything for me in terms of info. I got dragged . he bet too fast on flop to have hit, he had decided before the cards came down that he was raising whatever happened. I couldn't have guessed that he hit on river, there was no draw there.

jem

NickyOD wrote:

There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking down a pot early when you know you are ahead. His hand is simply not powerful enough to try and get cute and extract more.

It is onething I never do. an early win is always better than a late lose.

RoundTower

NickyOD wrote:

It's damage limitation He'll lose a lot more by calling down on 3 streets when he is behind all the way OR let his oponent catch up. If he wants to get to a cheap showdown this is not the way to do it.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking down a pot early when you know you are ahead. His hand is simply not powerful enough to try and get cute and extract more.

You don't know you're ahead. You might be. I agree it would be OK to win this pot right here, if this player will bet all three streets with any two, but will slow down if raised, you should grit your teeth and call him.