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Drug test!

  • 30-10-2005 7:46pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭


    Last night I was over with a few friends having a drink. There was a few joints going around, and I decided to have a few tokes on one. The thing is I'm looking for a job at the moment and I have an interview coming up next week. I know I might have to do a drug test and was wondering if I might fail it after smoking a joint.
    Is there ways around this or how long does it take for the blood to detoxify enough? Any advice is greatly appreciated, I really need a new job!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    What type of job is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    You should be fine. Just up your fluid intake and that'll help clear out your system


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭sinjin_smythe


    You should be fine. Just up your fluid intake and that'll help clear out your system

    that works?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    Iv been told figures of 30days for it to be completely out of your system.
    http://www.concept420.com/how-long-does-marijuana-stay-system.htm
    This might help you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭PeadarofAodh


    no it doesn't. A friend of mine's mum is a bit of a crazy lady and she makes him take a monthly drug test- when he smokes a joint 3 weeks before taking it, it always shows up no matter what he tries!
    Cross those fingers!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    weedhead wrote:
    that works?
    Well, it'll help.. but judging by your nickname, you yourself may need a little more ;)

    OP : If it was just a few tokes as you said then you'll probably be alright. (Depending on the job) I wouldn't say they'd be that strict on a bit of marijauna. Chances are they'll be testing more for the harder stuff.

    Keep it clean from now untill the test anyway. Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    it takes several weeks for it to go out of your system.
    although, i seriously doubt that you will have a specific test for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    weedhead wrote:
    that works?

    I'm going on the assumption that A: the op isn't a regular/heavy user and B: the company is just going to use a dip type test as oppose to spalhing out and paying for a gcms test. The idea behind upping the fluid intake is that the Thc and cbd(the thing in hash responsible for the body load) build up in the tissues in that area and other places and these tissue are passed out as you urinate so the more you pee the faster these chemicals leave your system plus if your not a heavy smoker there won't be that much built up in the tissues, If they do spring for the gcm these can measure in the ppm iirc so you'll be busted but most places won't spend the extra cash


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    You can drink as much as you want...short of a blood transplant, it takes a few months for all traces of the drug to leave your system ... But I think it's highly doubtful that a job medical blood test would notice this, or even look for it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    This came up for me a while back and I researched it quite a lot.
    There are two standard tests, both based on the standardised FDA ( food, drink administration) tests from the USA.
    One test uses a stick with four panels coc,opi,amp,thc. so it is out for cocaine, opiate (heroin etc), amphetamine (speed, e) and THC or cannabis.
    The other test has six panels and is not standard here in Ireland.
    You will be asked to pee in a medicine bottle and they will dip the sticks in that.

    After all I read I decided that the only choice was to get my father ( as practically the only male non-smoker that I know) to pee in a bottle a few weeks beforehand and I froze the bottle.
    I brought some of this along with me to the doctors surgery in a package close to my skin as you need to get it back up to body temperature or you can also fail.
    I was let off into the bathroom to give the sample and I passed.

    I know people who have smoked the night before the test and passed, I can only conclude that where this was the case that the company did not have a brief to report cannabis use but the sticks have thc on them and as such get used as there is no standard testing option that does not use it.
    I know a few that got in despite the fact that there is no way they passed thc tests, you can hope that this is the case with where you work.

    A heavy smoker can have thc in their system up to about 60 days, sometimes more after the last usage, it can be a lot quicker.

    I consulted with my local pharmacist on this as well and was honest with him as to what I wanted and why and he said there was no way as far as he knew.

    Another option is you drink a LOT of water on the day of the test and pee pure water, thing is though they will bring you back for the other tests, but not normally do the drug test again as that box is already checked, this happened to me and the second time the doctor assured me that there was only one test being done, I took no precautions, I am in the job 3 years now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭silenoz


    Thanks for the advice. I'm not sure I want to chance giving a sample of my own urine in case THC levels can be detected. I really need to get a clear sample as I'm looking for a job in Quality Control in a chemical company! (Kinda ironic in a way!) So those guys can probably do some high standard tests in-house.

    I could be quite screwed, I realise that. But I'm trying to remain optimistic, and hoping my metabolism is quite fast in case I do have to give my own sample.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    "It was passive man, i swear!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    silenoz wrote:
    Thanks for the advice. I'm not sure I want to chance giving a sample of my own urine in case THC levels can be detected. I really need to get a clear sample as I'm looking for a job in Quality Control in a chemical company! (Kinda ironic in a way!) So those guys can probably do some high standard tests in-house.

    I could be quite screwed, I realise that. But I'm trying to remain optimistic, and hoping my metabolism is quite fast in case I do have to give my own sample.


    They wont do any in-house tests, they would not be allowed as they do not have a medical degree, they will DEFINITELY defer the tests to the company doctor.
    They WILL use the industry standard FDA tests.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    the standard period of detection on a urine test for a single use or very infrequent use of cannabis is 48-72 hours. For frequent or habituall use it can be as long as 12 weeks. the "cutoff point" i.e the level of thc that can be in ur system and still result in you being considered as testing negative is 50ng/ml.The only way I know of to beat the test apart from getting a clean sample from some1 and hiding it in a bag down your pants (personal feel a bit wierd about going round asking ppl for a loan of their urine) is to use Visine eye drops or a similar liquifilm tear solution. these can be purchased with out a perscription as a treatment for dry eyes. Benzalkonium chloride (a preservative) is the ingredient that gives the false negative. The ingridients will be on the back of thr packet or bottle. You need to add 100 ml of this solution per litre of urine. The average urine sample is about 60ml roughly which means you need to add 6ml of the sollution to your sample. Measure this out before you go in to give your sample in a small container and discreetly pour in as you urinate. I know this is a longwinded post but this has worked for myself and several ppl I know so far including ppl applying to the gardai and defense force members with a 100% success rate. I am amazed more ppl do not know about this. Another word of advice if any1 isn't able to tamper with your sample i.e if your observed while giving it.There are several legal OTC and perscription drugs aswell as medical condition which give false positives. Ibuprofen, Naproxen, Ketoprofen, Promethazine, Riboflaven(vitamin B2), or a Kidney infection. If you are caught red handed claiming to be on one or several of these medication or condition will sometimes at the very least get you another retest at a later date. Good Luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    although this has been very succesful in the past nothing is foolproof and the only 100% garaunteed way to pass any drug test is to abstain from the drugs in question


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    The other ways to test for cannabis use are Hair Testing, Saliva Testing and Blood testing (although urine is most common by far).

    HAIR TEST:These usually test on the most recent 1.5 inches of hair. Resulting in a detection period of about 90 days. Shorter hair=shorter detection period. There are several special shampoos and treatments that can be bought over the internet that claim to help you beat the test, but I have no Idea of whether or not these work. the only way I know of to beat this test is an allover body wax.

    SALIVA TEST:This is an recentally developed test and I have no reliable imformation on it. If any1 knows anything about this test please post it, Thanks.

    BLOOD TEST:Cannabis is detectable for 2-3 days in infrequent users and about 2 weeks for frequent users.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    slipss wrote:
    I know this is long post But its worth it.
    Don't mean to be a grammer nazi; but it's not that the post is overly long (it isn't really) but that it's one massive block of text which makes it hard to read.

    Try splitting it up into paragraphs, for our sake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    ferdi wrote:
    "It was passive man, i swear!"
    The amount of dope that gets smoked in the back of a nightlink bus is unbelivable...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 538 ✭✭✭~Leanne~


    I havent a clue about drug testing, but good luck in your interview and let us know how you got on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭silenoz


    I have an interview Friday... I'll have to see how that goes, and find out if I have any drug test coming up.

    Thanks to Slipss for what seems like solid advice.

    On the subject of passive smoking, it's mad to think you can take in loads of people's smoke but not get anything off it. THC is only found in the smoke that is not inhaled (which is quite small). But I guess if you were burning hash you could take a small amount into your system.
    Still, I'm gonna try and stay away from Nightlink buses!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    slipss wrote:
    The other ways to test for cannabis use are Hair Testing, Saliva Testing and Blood testing (although urine is most common by far).

    HAIR TEST:These usually test on the most recent 1.5 inches of hair. Resulting in a detection period of about 90 days. Shorter hair=shorter detection period. There are several special shampoos and treatments that can be bought over the internet that claim to help you beat the test, but I have no Idea of whether or not these work. the only way I know of to beat this test is an allover body wax.

    SALIVA TEST:This is an recentally developed test and I have no reliable imformation on it. If any1 knows anything about this test please post it, Thanks.

    BLOOD TEST:Cannabis is detectable for 2-3 days in infrequent users and about 2 weeks for frequent users.

    I didn't know the trick with the eyedrops. Will use that if it comes up again, do you know if it only works for THC, this is curiousity as I dont do anything else anymore?

    It is unlikely that any test will be done past the FDA standard dipsticks unless you were already in the army or that and they suspected bad performance as a result of drug use.

    The cleaning shampoos online are all a scam, they dont clean your hair. They guarantee money back too but dont actually refund it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 482 ✭✭spooiirt!!


    I had the excact same problem once. I just stalled till it was outta my system. I made up a pretty hefty lie about my sis being in a car crash, said i had to fly over to her ( she coincidentally lived overseas) to look after her for a while. I actually spent the time working in a supermarket.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    no it only works with THC. If you're interested it works by the 9-carboxy-THC(the compund they look for in the test) being absorbed into the benzalkonium chloride micelles and broken down into other naturally occuring chemicals(salts, water ect).


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