Scottish Winter - Part Duex

Evil Phil

I'm thinking of doing the Technical Winter Mountaineering course with Tiglin next February. This would be ice-tools, crampons and roped climbs. Anybody interested? - I know Gil_Dub is going over anyway.

BeardyGit

Hey man,

Yeah - I'm looking at the Tiglin course too. I'm doing the REC first aid training with them and I'm adequately impressed with their abilities.

On another note - What's with these rumours I'm hearing about the future of Tiglin? Have you heard anything from your climbing associates?

Gil

^whitey^

Did that course a couple of years ago it gives you a good grounding in snow and ice skills. However if people have already done an alpine course such as the MCI meet one, you might consider the Ice climbing course instead.

Evil Phil

Thanks whitey, I've done the MCI course so maybe I'll go to France ice climbing


Here's the MCI email regarding Tiglin.

The Future of Tiglin: Statement by the MCI.
28th Oct 2005

Further to the MCI statement of 25th Oct (copy below), the MCI wishes
to advise its members that the directors of the Irish Adventure Sports
Training Trust (IASTT) met with the Irish Sports Council (ISC) on Tues
25th Oct 2005. The ISC has decided to undertake a review of the
operation of Tiglin before making a decision on future capital and
operational funding (capital funding is primarily a matter for the
Department of Arts, Sports and Tourism). The ISC has asked Mr Jerry
O'Dwyer, former senior civil servant and member of the ISC, to prepare
a report on Tiglin in a timeframe of approximately four weeks. In the
meantime the ISC, who provide circa 50% of Tiglin's funding, have
released the third quarter of the 2005 grant.

The staff of Tiglin has been kept informed of developments by their
employers the IASTT. No decision has yet been made by the IASTT on the
future of Tiglin and protective notice has not been issued to staff. It
is important to emphasise to members of the MCI that the future of
Tiglin is something that is not within the power of the MCI to decide.

Tiglin has occupied a pivotal role in the provision of mountain
training but depending on the outcome of the ISC report and the
possibility that Tiglin may not continue to operate as it has done up
to now, the MCI believes that it may be timely to review its own policy
and approach to training. To this end the MCI Executive will shortly
invite all interested members to put forward their views and
recommendations for consideration.



Statement issued by MCI on Tuesday 25th Oct 2005:

A review of the future of Tiglin is underway. Tiglin is owned and
managed by the Irish Adventure Sports Training Trust (IASTT). The
members of the trust are Mountaineering Council of Ireland, Irish Canoe
Union, Association for Adventure Sports and the City of Dublin VEC. Any
decision is for all four partners, in co-operation and consultation
with each other and with the Irish Sports Council. IASTT is currently
in talks with the Irish Sports Council about the future of Tiglin.
Tiglin is financed annually by a grant from the Irish Sports Council, a
(smaller) grant from the CDVEC and by income from courses.

MCI appreciates the important role that Tiglin plays in mountain
training in Ireland and we have consistently made every possible effort
to support Tiglin and its future. The MCI is determined that the
training needs of hill walkers and climbers in Ireland will be
fulfilled, whatever the future of Tiglin may be as a venue. Finally,
the MCI is not holding a meeting tonight to decide the future of
Tiglin, as suggested in some emails currently in circulation.

^whitey^

Evil Phil wrote:

Thanks whitey, I've done the MCI course so maybe I'll go to France ice climbing

Give Tiglin a shout and ask them about their Winter Climbing Course (a step above the technical winter mountaineering course). Although I cant see it on their calender for next year.

If you haven't gone winter mountaineering in Scotland before and the climbing course isn't available i'd recommend the tech winter course. Scottish winter is a different ball game to the alps.