god damn party and there blackjack

jimbling

What genius came up with the idea of bringing blackjack into the poker website. I tell ya, it will make an absolute fortune for party. The guys winning will do it for the craic, and the guys losing will do it to try and quickly make back the bucks.....

Twice I fell for it yesterday. I was playing a PL OH cash game yesterday... I had been doing quite well, and had managed to double my initial deposit (just joined party).

I was two tabling on my laptop with another MTT, and twice....twice I tell ya, while switching back and fourth from the different tables I clicked the damn blackjack button by accident.

'Go on... have a go' it was screaming at me.... and so I did, and managed to lose most of the chips gained.....

god I hate blackjack... it brings out the true gambler in me.

There should be an option to not have it on your screen all the time.... would prevent me from having to use willpower:rolleyes:

are the rest of ye suckers for these gamble games.... or do ye stick to good old poker.. where you can use your edge?

Waylander

Used to do alot of sportsbook gambling bit do not do it so much any more. The poker seems to cure my bug:)

Culchie

Waylander wrote:

Used to do alot of sportsbook gambling bit do not do it so much any more. The poker seems to cure my bug:)

Ditto.

I used to bet alot on golf, study the form big time, and finished 2004 season well in profit. Then I started playing poker, which more than anything else takes up the necessary time to study all the stats you need to do for successful golf betting.
I used to be able to tell you all the driving acurracy %'s, whether Ernie Els had ever won Bermuda grass greens, if Davis Love prefers left to right golf courses, and how Mark Calcavecchia loves the months of April, May and June and is a donkey for the rest of the year.

Samba

Genius I tell you.

I blew around 200 sterling which i had built up from 16 on the free sign up bonus for Noble Poker.

I was on as of late and I see they no longer have the casino built in to the poker, fools!

I never bet on sports, horses or anything else, i have seen how people fair with the bookies.

ionapaul

I used to always bet on Davis Love III, Fred Funk and Fuzzy Zoeller...'cause I thought their names were cool.

I stand by my system*




*I never won a penny

murfie

Im sure you guys also saw the program about the MIT graduates who developed the perfect Blackjack way of playing? surely these techniques can be used here. Blackjack is just pure odds and maths.

I also tried it, was up a good bit for a while but lost my profit. As they say with blackjack 80% are short term winners but 90% of these are long term losers.

The Troll

I bet quite a bit on cricket. When the rugby World Cup is on, i do the handicap betting, about €220 per game. Thats about all my gambling away from poker. I'll usually play a bit of blackjack if i'm in the casino. Wouldnt bother online though.

Norwich Fan Rob

i think if i was playing poker, BJ at the same time would be fun, but highly distracting, sometimes expensive, and u would be much more likely to blow your stack.

Imposter

murfie wrote:

Im sure you guys also saw the program about the MIT graduates who developed the perfect Blackjack way of playing? surely these techniques can be used here. Blackjack is just pure odds and maths.

That was an advanced card counting system. It wouldn't work on party as they use 8 decks and they reshuffle after something like 10% of the deck is used.

Lafortezza

Norwich Fan Rob wrote:

i think if i was playing poker, BJ at the same time would be fun, but highly distracting, sometimes expensive, and u would be much more likely to blow your stack.

I was going to make this joke but you got there before me!

Dub13

I bet a good bit on football....it can be a nice little earner.

kincsem

£50 on Loren Roberts in the US Open at 66/1 about 10 years ago. Tied with Monty and Ernie Els after missing a 4 footer to win. 18 hole playoff tied with Ernie. Lost sudden death to Ernie.

100 at 40/1 and 100 at 66/1 on Niclas Fasth (2nd) in the British Open. Leader in the clubhouse for about two hours until Duval passed him.

The best is yet to come -
€250 win; €100 place on Thomas Bjorn at 100/1 to win the British Open. He led by three shots with four holes to play (odds in play were 1/7). Played the last four holes like a 24 handicapper.

Balanced out by £5 on John Daly at 80/1 when he won the Open in 1995.

califano

Football is the absolute worst possible sport to bet on imo. I only bet on football if i want more pain. I once bet on what score Bill Clinton would shoot in Bundoran. I got a ridiculously good price of about 11/4 on him shooting any score less than 100 and lumped on, he shot 91 or something.

Then i remember having a bet on O.J Simpson getting off, unfortunately I had Rose West with him in a double!.

Culchie

rounders123 wrote:

Football is the absolute worst possible sport to bet on imo. I only bet on football if i want more pain. I once bet on what score Bill Clinton would shoot in Bundoran. I got a ridiculously good price of about 11/4 on him shooting any score less than 100 and lumped on, he shot 91 or something.

Then i remember having a bet on O.J Simpson getting off, unfortunately I had Rose West with him in a double!.

Rounders ....You are an interesting chap !

jimbling

lost more winnings playing blackjack last night... its the tilters nightmare.... I think i need to work on this aspect of my gambling... I have always suffered from it, in sports betting (dont do much of that anymore), in casino games and in poker.


there are some days that I'm on tilt before I ever sit at the table... you know, those sort of 'woke on the wrong side of the bed' days. I think I should just not play on such occasions. I lost about $250 in the space of about 2 hours last night.... mostly due to me making ridiculas bets and all-ins etc etc.... i feel so guilty this morning.....

must find some way to manage this.... and its not just 'walk away' etc... this just isn't good enough... I need to be able to bury the tilt...

Culchie

Stick to the poker Jimbling would be my advise.

Use your edge.

jimbling

Culchie wrote:

Stick to the poker Jimbling would be my advise.

Use your edge.

yes.. i think that goes without saying.... but


Im only an average poker.. so my edge is pretty small, and on some occasions I'm counteracting that edge by tilting in a tournament or two....

as said, last night I lost every stt I played in.... that was about 8. I mean wtf. I know there is bad runs etc... but that wasnt it.. I was playing some really awfull poker...just terrible. Making bad plays... bad calls... i just couldnt stop. And the longer it went on the worse it became.

I'd stop... say to myself 'Right jimmy, your not playing well, your not geting good reads... so just tighten up and play a solid game'
then a few hands later, id find myself going all in with A 9 from middle position... wtf....

I think ill take a break and have a think about all this... is there any good advice out there... any links guys? Its probably a non-poker issue really... just letting my mood alter the way I act....

Culchie

Take a break, read a book, enjoy life. Poker will be there next week. I'm also guessing that your cash game background might the reason for your poor results in the STT's .... it's a different discipline.

Zen and the Art of Poker is a short book that may help the way you are tilting.

I also think when learning this game, you keep hitting walls (or plateaus). You more you learn, the more you realise you don't know etc...

Then when you break through a certain barrier, you've moved on to the next level and you're running good again until you come a cropper at the next fence.

I am truly amazed and impressed by HJ's and Nicky's, Marq's. Lafortezza's and Dappergents (to mention a few) analysis and comment on the cash game intricasies and all the plays involved, I'm in awe.

As you said yourself, it's not a poker problem you are faced with. Just need a break to reflect.

Black Jack isn't the answer, that I do know... so do you.:)

jimbling

cheers for the advice culchie,

and your absolutely right. I know there are stages, and I've already been through a few.... with a lot more to go I'm sure.

Not so sure if the background in cash games are the problem though. Haven't been playing much of those for the last 3 months. I have been doing okay with the STTs, there keeping me in enough money to be entering plenty MTTs anyhow.... and when I win some money in one of those I take it out.

I think maybe my unbelievable run of STT finishes last saturday may have had an effect on my mindset as well. I was up so much money for the weekend, and had been finishing in the money so easily... i think overconfidence got to me. And when I realised that that was the problem... it made matters worse, and I tilted even more.


I might order that book alright.... I've heard a few things about it already....

NickyOD

Imposter wrote:

That was an advanced card counting system. It wouldn't work on party as they use 8 decks and they reshuffle after something like 10% of the deck is used.

The short answer is with online blackjack is mathematically, you are screwed..

Also note that online casinos "dont" have to follow regulations that seem normal if you were playing at a land casino. American State regulations require video games to act just like their actual counterpart. With video blackjack, the odds of pulling any particular card from a 52 card deck must be 1 in 52. The odds must simulate what is expected in an actual live game. So if you were playing video craps at a land casino, the odds of rolling any number on one die must be 1 in 6. The casino is not allowed to "up" the odds of a 6 or 1 after your first roll in order to improve a payers ability to crap out. But online casinos can do this.

Also note that some live casinos it appears that some of the "tens" are replaced by 3-6's. If their gaming regulations dont specifiy that the 5 decks must be 5 complete 52 card decks, then the casino could realistically put in any combination of cards to fill a 5 deck shoe. You can see where this would kill card counters and players doubling down. Dealer shows a 6, you have 6-5, time to double down. You consistently pull a 3, 4 or 5 on the double down. Dealer ends up having a 3 as a hole card, and draws two small cards for a 17-21.

Continual buttrape.

Imposter

1. Go into: C:\Program Files\PartyPoker\Images directory
2. rename the table_bj_button.jgp to something else.
3. Forget what you've just done.
Problem solved.

Iago

If you're playing blackjack online then the only version you should be playing is Vegas Strip Blackjack using two decks.

If you're playing an 8 deck version (and depending on the game rules) the house advantage could be anything up to .6% (full table and HA calculations here http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack)

Blackjack can be handy for bonus whoring at casinos, but apart from that I wouldn't touch it.

jimbling

Imposter wrote:

1. Go into: C:\Program Files\PartyPoker\Images directory
2. rename the table_bj_button.jgp to something else.
3. Forget what you've just done.
Problem solved.

thanks imposter... ill do just that... although I presume the button will still actually work. It would be better to have an option to just turn it off... but that wouldn't be + EV for party.

Imposter

jimbling wrote:

thanks imposter... ill do just that... although I presume the button will still actually work.

I thought this too but it doesn't or at least I can't find the place to click that does work!