Irish Rappers

Shrimp

Hey

I was listening to the radio today and twice today there was a piece on these two guys from ballymun who rap. I was wondering if anyone knows what they are called? or their names? or if anyone heard it? i mean to be honest they were a lot better than so many of Irish rappers floating about!

Thanks

JoeSchmoe

they were lunatic and 4 real from a group called urban intelligence

heres their web site http://www.workingclassrecords.com

the dice man

JoeSchmoe wrote:

http://www.workingclassrecords.com

"1st Prize:
2 Fights to a European City and €100"

great website, although i won't like to win two fights in any european city

MikeTyson

a few ballymun rappers were on stage before the nas concert they were alrite but rap doesnt sound right with that accent

jaqian

@MikeTyson give it a chance. You're just so used to hearing American accents it sounds stramge rapping in a different accent.

Has anyone bought the Collie - Is Ainm Dom album? He raps in Irish and English with a very Dublin accent. Bit reminiscent of Scary Éire's Dole-Q but deadly none-the-less.

Do Urban Intelligence have any cd's for sale?

Makaveli

Yeah they have an EP. You can get it in Tower Records.

White Noise

lads ye should all go out and buy the homemade bombs mixtape in tower. it's the 1st irish hiphop mixtape and has a rake of savage mc's on it

DeLaTroY

Yeh man,they got skills.

Anyone know who is producing their beats? Who's their DJ?

Fidelis

I saw Collie supporting Jeru in Rí-Rá recently, couldn't make out a single word he was saying. Partly due to the fact that the beat was far louder than his vocals and also because he was practically eating his mic.

jaqian

Fidelis wrote:

I saw Collie supporting Jeru in Rí-Rá recently, couldn't make out a single word he was saying. Partly due to the fact that the beat was far louder than his vocals and also because he was practically eating his mic.

Yeah he needs a decent sound manager or whatever you call them. But with enough exposure he could be the Irish Eminem and bootstrap the industry here in Ireland get needed money and exposure etc.

Orizio

God no!!!I don't care if he is Irish,he can't rap or write.The Irish Enimem???:rolleyes:

jaqian

Orizio wrote:

God no!!!I don't care if he is Irish,he can't rap or write.The Irish Enimem???:rolleyes:

I can't stop listening to his cd! Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he can't shine a light on the Irish Rap scene.

Look at M&M he's a twat all he can rap about is his family but he has brought a new generation into the rap scene. From him they will go on to explore other rappers etc.

We need someone who is scandalous and that will get a lot of air-time and press coverage. Who else is there? We're about 10 - 20yrs behind the UK scene, we haven't got as big user base .

Cannibal Ox

We're about 10-20 years behind the rest of the world, not just England. I've heard Finnish rappers that are light years ahead of the Irish ones. The only really talented Irish MC I've heard yet is MJ. Don't get me wrong, I'll go to the shows and sh!t just to give some support but the Irish scene isn't going to produce any really world class MC's for another couple of years.
And by that stage, MTV might have found another genre to pimp to the kids.

ven0m

Cannibal Ox wrote:

We're about 10-20 years behind the rest of the world, not just England. I've heard Finnish rappers that are light years ahead of the Irish ones. The only really talented Irish MC I've heard yet is MJ. Don't get me wrong, I'll go to the shows and sh!t just to give some support but the Irish scene isn't going to produce any really world class MC's for another couple of years.
And by that stage, MTV might have found another genre to pimp to the kids.

I'm Irish & I'm already gettin that exposure & will be droppin a mixtape with some guest spots with some US artists........ all irish rappers aren't what you hear from the hiphop ireland guys (no dis.)....


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Cannibal Ox

I don't mean in terms of exposure, I mean in terms of quality. 50 Cent has exposure but that doesn't mean he's producing top quality hip hop or advancing the genre in any way. Not trying to be a wanker about Irish mcs, I've got a lot of respect for them. If Ireland does ever produce world beating mcs it'll be because they laid the foundations for it.
Good luck with the mixtape

ven0m

Cannibal Ox wrote:

I don't mean in terms of exposure, I mean in terms of quality. 50 Cent has exposure but that doesn't mean he's producing top quality hip hop or advancing the genre in any way. Not trying to be a wanker about Irish mcs, I've got a lot of respect for them. If Ireland does ever produce world beating mcs it'll be because they laid the foundations for it.
Good luck with the mixtape

Quality is there - otherwise I wouldn't be doing work with Crooked I (who is considered one of the ILLEST MC's)... even he loved what I was putting out, & really digged my flow...... same with SKG & a few others who've been checkin my stuff out.... but thankz for the well wishes man!!!


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Orizio

jaqian wrote:

I can't stop listening to his cd! Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he can't shine a light on the Irish Rap scene.

Look at M&M he's a twat all he can rap about is his family but he has brought a new generation into the rap scene. From him they will go on to explore other rappers etc.

We need someone who is scandalous and that will get a lot of air-time and press coverage. Who else is there? We're about 10 - 20yrs behind the UK scene, we haven't got as big user base .

Umm Eminem at his brief best,a brilliant lyricist and technically excellent rapper.He murdered Jigga on his own track for christ sakes.

Collie on the other hand is just...:rolleyes: And I'd rather a decent rapper pioneer Irish Hip-Hop,but maybe I'm just wierd like that.

Anyway if were 10 years behind the UK then were a miilion years behind the US.;)

Soupi

Orizio wrote:

God no!!!I don't care if he is Irish,he can't rap or write.The Irish Enimem???:rolleyes:

i totally agree, i don't think he's good at all and i cringe at the thought of him pioneering irish rap. my boyfriend bought the homemade bombs mixtape and there were a few good tunes on it but they still have a very long way to come.

my boyfriend raps but he's very fussy and he hasn't heard anyone that he thinks is good enough to rap with, he's just not feeling any of them. i hate when i see irish rappers who have no flow and who's rhymes are totally crap (not dissin anyone, it's not necessarily their fault) and they're up on the stage giving it socks and they think they're brilliant.

ireland needs someone to take them by the hand and give them everything they need to be brilliant mc's. the beats are defo there but it's the guidance that they're missing. it gives irish rap a bad name and that's why you have so many people dissing it. :rolleyes:

bombidol

Homemade bombs is criminal is so bad. There was nothing on there save MJEX that anywhere near being actually good, not just good for Ireland. But actually good.

Soupi

bombidol wrote:

Homemade bombs is criminal is so bad. There was nothing on there save MJEX that anywhere near being actually good, not just good for Ireland. But actually good.

the problem is that irish rappers are giving irish rap a bad name and good rappers are embarassed because of the way people feel about irish rap.

people are so used to hearing american rap that they don't want to even consider any other variations or accents when theyl listen to it,then on the other hand you have people that will just support irish rap for the sake of it without even considering whether the rapper has got skillz or not.

spacecoyote

i picked up home made bombs and collie's album. yeah theres some nice beats and some decent mcs on home made bombs, but some of it is extremely poor. the female mc sinisista stood out as particularly poor. I do have some respect for collie's album though, theres some smart lyrics and it made me laugh. he's stayed true to his Irish/Dublin roots with the language and the humour and doesn't try to fill his rhymes up with wannabe american slang. some of it is not great but i think its a pretty solid effort.

Soupi

as far as i know sinista is only 15-16 so she's quite young,i'd give her a bit of time and a bit of guidance and i'd say she'd be quite good

JoeSchmoe

ven0m wrote:

Quality is there - otherwise I wouldn't be doing work with Crooked I (who is considered one of the ILLEST MC's)... even he loved what I was putting out, & really digged my flow...... same with SKG & a few others who've been checkin my stuff out.... but thankz for the well wishes man!!!


::: ven0mous :::

so when/where can we hear your stuff?

ven0m

JoeSchmoe wrote:

so when/where can we hear your stuff?

I'm postin some basic demos here - bear in mind these are pre-production, so I can see what I wanna change etc in the tracks musically & lyrically... (no way I'm droppin any of the material currently in production, cos there's money in behind that & a deal in place for that)

http://rapidshare.de/files/6886472/Amen-Ra_-_The_Way_I_Am__BASIC_DEMO_.mp3.html

http://www.hoodstars.net/dmo/amenra-takinubacc.mp3

http://www.hoodstars.net/dmo/amenra-aintnoneofyallbetter.mp3

http://www.hoodstars.net/dmo/amenra-watchnlearn.mp3

http://www.hoodstars.net/dmo/amenra-weready4war_ft_crookedi.mp3

http://df05.dot5hosting.com/~petersta/crookedi_me_against_the_world_ft_2pac_amen-ra.mp3

http://www.hoodstars.net/dmo/amenra-hoodstars.mp3


MODS: I'm a part-owner in HoodStars.net & am in ownership of correct copyrights/usage of the music above.... (since I am the artist!)


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Soupi

are you american ven0m?

ven0m

Soupi wrote:

are you american ven0m?

no, lived there for a long long time - have american relatives & friends



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Soupi

you sound very american when u rap.is there an american twang off your accent?

ven0m

Soupi wrote:

you sound very american when u rap.is there an american twang off your accent?

Yes & I constantly cop flack for it - have had years of catchin heat over it....


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Soupi

i prefer irish rap that sounds irish.why don't you do it in an irish accent

jaqian

Soupi wrote:

i prefer irish rap that sounds irish.why don't you do it in an irish accent

Maybe because thats his accent?


Venom there seems to be a problem with downloading Yallbetter. Btw is Amenra your nick for hip-hop?

ven0m

jaqian wrote:

Maybe because thats his accent?

exactly - I talk how I talk & thats the kinda attitude (what soupi said) is what I've heard none stop for years - I've been doin this for damn near 10 years. I sound how I sound, American artists don't got a problem with it neither do UK artists who I been gettin to do some work with. All they all care about is how my flow is, whether I can keep it 'clever' & thats just how I'm gonna keep it.....

Yeah - Amen-Ra is my stage name

fixed the file on the server, had it misnamed up there.... should be able to access it now... thanks for checkin my stuff out


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Collie Collins

Fidelis wrote:

I saw Collie supporting Jeru in Rí-Rá recently, couldn't make out a single word he was saying. Partly due to the fact that the beat was far louder than his vocals and also because he was practically eating his mic.

what can i say, i was pretty hungry that night....

yer right but, de vox were very low

Soupi wrote:

as far as i know sinista is only 15-16 so she's quite young,i'd give her a bit of time and a bit of guidance and i'd say she'd be quite good

your thinking of Karisma, she's about 12. Sinista is around the 26/27 mark....

dmjn

here venom do you have a soundclick or a myspace

Ay Cee

Here's some My Space for ye:
http://myspace.com/mcaycee

&

http://myspace.com/thegudmen

Both shameless plugs but if it's Irish Hip Hop with Irish accents you're looking for...

AfroMan

Irish Rappers are very good.
Rap is becoming very popular in our country.
check out this: www.benrama.com

Soupi

not bad Ay Cee, where do you record?

AfroMan

Recorded in Wmusiq Studio (Belgium) - see detail on B.N.G. website www.benrama.com

Ay Cee

Soupi, I have a small studio set up at home.
Thanks for checking the audio out.

My solo stuff is a lot older than The Gudmen stuff as that's what I've been concentrating on for the last couple of years.

Soupi

Ay Cee: it's great to hear people rapping with an irish accent, i think it's much more plausible than irish people who put on american accents to rap because they don't have the creativity to do it in their own accent. my boyfriend raps and has a studio at home, he's brilliant and has 3 albums already. i keep telling him to approach someone but he's a perfectionist and always says "ah, i just wanna record 2-3 more blowers and then i'll send it to someone". i have to keep on his back about it but i know that once he's happy then it'll happen. good luck with your tunes anyway

Collie Collins

Soupi wrote:

my boyfriend raps and has a studio at home

just as a matter of interest, whats his name?

Ay Cee

Well Soupi I'm Irish so why would I sound any other way
Thanks for the kind words.

ven0m

Ay Cee wrote:

Well Soupi I'm Irish so why would I sound any other way
Thanks for the kind words.

Is that a dig?

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Makaveli

I'd say it was in response to this

Soupi wrote:

Ay Cee: it's great to hear people rapping with an irish accent, i think it's much more plausible than irish people who put on american accents to rap

Ay Cee

Mak is right.

However I'll assume by your thinking it was a dig that you rap with an American accent?

It's nothing personal and I don't want to get into a war of words but I make secret of how I feel about that.

ven0m

Ay Cee wrote:

Mak is right.

However I'll assume by your thinking it was a dig that you rap with an American accent?

It's nothing personal and I don't want to get into a war of words but I make secret of how I feel about that.

I rap with that accent cos thats how I talk, & have talked for a long ass time - if it was the case I was puttin it on, that'd be one thing - but people cannot help how they sound.....

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Ay Cee

I never had any of your stuff nor know anything about you Venom so I'm can't pass comment.

If you have an American accent from living in the States or what ever then I've no problem with that.

I've a problem with some guy from Blanchardstown sounding like he's from the Bronx. Going on about gats, AK's and drive-bys.

I've no tolerance for fake people full stop.

Soupi

Ay Cee wrote:

I never had any of your stuff nor know anything about you Venom so I'm can't pass comment.

If you have an American accent from living in the States or what ever then I've no problem with that.

I've a problem with some guy from Blanchardstown sounding like he's from the Bronx. Going on about gats, AK's and drive-bys.

I've no tolerance for fake people full stop.

here here, i second that. i don't wanna have a dig at anyone coz fair play to anyone getting out there but there are certain things that i can't stand when it comes to rapping and that's one of them. there's a link for venom's tunes on one of his replies. :rolleyes:

Executive Steve

i heard some absolutely class tunes by hot property - rawsouol and nu-centz i think they're called, they're everything that i think irish hip hop should aspire to being - witty and utterly and unmistakebly irish without being stage-irish and having to go on about their bollocks or their pints of guinness... just songs about being from where theyre from and drinking cans in dodder park - check them out.

Collie Collins

check out their newest tune here:

www.myspace.com/nucentz

also check this out, fukcin hilarious:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=19850&songID=2620520

AfroMan

Rap is not about the accent. You can rap with an Irish accent or any other accent. It doesn't matter.
Let's appreciate and support Irish rappers instead of criticizing them.
How many good irish rappers do you know, never mind their accent.
I know Collie, Messiah, Mr. B.N.G.
www.benrama.com

Soupi

yeah nu-centz is good,i like his stuff.

i'm not trying to put anyone down i just think it's an insult when rappers don't rap in their native accents.