Which one?

fred funk }{

Im looking for some opinions, Im about to buy one of the following cars,
A Honda CRV EST 2.0 or a Mazda Premacy 1.8. The two cars have all mod cons. The Honda is a 1998 and has about 60,000 miles and the Mazda is a 2000 with only 19,000 miles. The two are the same price.

Here's my line of thinking......

Honda
Pro's

Looks much better
much more reliable
easy to sell on

cons

Heavy on the juice
higher milage
higher tax
two years older than mazda


Mazda

Pro's

Low millage
newer

Con's

Not as reliable than Honda
Not as nice looking


Opinions would be great, At the moment im edging towards the Honda even though its older and more millage.

Thanks

unkel

Honda. It's not that heavy on the juice. Did you consider buying a Nissan X-Trail?

Silver Knight wrote:

The two are the same price

What price would that be?

fred funk }{

10,000 for them both but i should get either for a bit cheaper.
No i haven't thought about the Nissan at all, is it any good?

bazz26

The X-Trail is too new, you wouldn't get one for €10k.

To OP:

First of all 60k miles on a 1998 car and 19k miles on a 2000 car is nothing but it depends on how they were driven and how they were maintained.

Also the Honda is a SUV not an estate which probably means it has 4WD whereas the Mazda is a medium size MPV.

The Honda cost alot more when new as is more desirable which would explain why a 1998 one is worth the same as the 2000 Mazda Premacy. Now the Honda is a 2.0 petrol so if it is 4WD then this will have an impact on fuel economy as the 4WD setup makes the vehicle heavier. So if your worried about mpg and unless you really need 4WD I would seek out a 2WD version. Unfortunately the CRV was not available in diesel back then.

The Mazda was based on the last Mazda 626 so most mechanical parts are straight from it. It was not a very popular MPV in Ireland so resale values are low.

I'm not sure what your needs are but both these vehicles are aimed at different markets, the Honda being a SUV and the Mazda a family MPV.

If you need a SUV then the Honda CRV is a good dependable car but an alternative would be the Toyota RAV4 or Suzuki Vitara.

If you need a MPV then really there are better more practical MPVs out there than the Mazda Premacy. Take a look at the Opel Zafira, Seat Alhambra or Ford Galaxy.

Here are a few examples:
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carid=212901
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carid=299625
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carid=270125
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=261599

By the way I think €10k for the Premacy is too expensive.

Check this one out:
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=279806

prospect

Silver Knight wrote:

...
Honda...Pro's.....much more reliable

Mazda....Con's....Not as reliable than Honda
......

Not sure where you are getting this idea:
http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/
Rank Car Make Index Rating

1 MAZDA 49
2 HONDA 62
3 HYUNDAI 66
4 FORD 71
5 SEAT 74
6 DAEWOO 77
7 BMW 84
8 PEUGEOT 86
9 VAUXHALL 89
10 FIAT 91

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prospect wrote:

Not sure where you are getting this idea:
http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/
Rank Car Make Index Rating

1 MAZDA 49
2 HONDA 62
3 HYUNDAI 66
4 FORD 71
5 SEAT 74
6 DAEWOO 77
7 BMW 84
8 PEUGEOT 86
9 VAUXHALL 89
10 FIAT 91

It's funny how Lexus and Toyota come out tops in other survey's and aren't even mentioned in the top 10 of this one. I mean come on, a Daewoo and Fiat more reliable than a Lexus or Toyota? Sorry, next survey please..

MercMad

All those survey are bullsh1t ! You are relying upon folk to give a report based only upon their BAD experiences !

Anyway I would go for the Mazda. They dont have a reliability problem and Hondas are usually overpriced IMO. A 20,000 mile car would be easier to trade in next time around, I mean I know it sounds obvious but if you kept either for 3 years and put on 40k you could still trade in the Mazda to pretty much any garage whereas the Honda would have 100k on it and it would deffo be a trade car and priced accordingly !

fred funk }{

bazz26 wrote:

The X-Trail is too new, you wouldn't get one for €10k.

To OP:

First of all 60k miles on a 1998 car and 19k miles on a 2000 car is nothing but it depends on how they were driven and how they were maintained.

Also the Honda is a SUV not an estate which probably means it has 4WD whereas the Mazda is a medium size MPV.

The Honda cost alot more when new as is more desirable which would explain why a 1998 one is worth the same as the 2000 Mazda Premacy. Now the Honda is a 2.0 petrol so if it is 4WD then this will have an impact on fuel economy as the 4WD setup makes the vehicle heavier. So if your worried about mpg and unless you really need 4WD I would seek out a 2WD version. Unfortunately the CRV was not available in diesel back then.

The Mazda was based on the last Mazda 626 so most mechanical parts are straight from it. It was not a very popular MPV in Ireland so resale values are low.

I'm not sure what your needs are but both these vehicles are aimed at different markets, the Honda being a SUV and the Mazda a family MPV.

If you need a SUV then the Honda CRV is a good dependable car but an alternative would be the Toyota RAV4 or Suzuki Vitara.

If you need a MPV then really there are better more practical MPVs out there than the Mazda Premacy. Take a look at the Opel Zafira, Seat Alhambra or Ford Galaxy.

Here are a few examples:
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carid=212901
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carid=299625
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carid=270125
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=261599

By the way I think €10k for the Premacy is too expensive.

Check this one out:
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=279806

Great advice thanks

OK I got the Honda today, I couldn't resist. Iv been driving it around the last two hours and i have to say im really impressed. Its my first automatic and im sorry i never got one before. It really powerfull and so comfortable and its in top condition, not even a mark on it anywhere.

Here's it is HERE

Thanks for the advice lads

I must diagree with the reliability league, a bit strange Toyota isn't on it and everyone knows how good they are.

bazz26

Congratulations!

Looks like a nice clean motor, best of luck with it and safe motoring. :cool:

unkel

Good luck with your new car

Can't really go wrong with the Honda there. My brother in law was considering buying a CR-V a year or so ago and had one for a while to test drive. Apart from it being Japanese in every respect (plastics galore, looks like it was designed by an automaton), I couldn't fault it at all for the type of car, especially in the 2.0 liter petrol automatic version - the very version you're after getting. And that's after reading loads of reviews about it too

Silver Knight wrote:

a bit strange Toyota isn't on it and everyone knows how good they are

Let me re-phrase the last bit: "everyone knows how reliable they are"