Smoking Ban finally to arrive in England?!

Dizzyblabla · 09-10-2005 12:52am #1

I was just shown this article: linky!

I wonder if it will work as well as it has here?!

nesf · 09-10-2005 12:59am

They've been talking about it for ages. Especially in Scotland. A number of British friends of mine that visited here commented on how people had adjusted to it but they were not so sure if it would be as sucessful over there.

Personally, I don't know enough to comment really. I was suprised by how well it worked here tbh.

You do get used to it though. It's just another habit to break tbh.

Guy:Incognito · 09-10-2005 1:01am

I was in Liverpool at the weekend and I have to say, there was a very low percentage of people smoking in most bars I went to. Since the smoking ban here anyime I'm around smoke, it affects me pretty badly(coughing, watery eyes etc.) but it didnt affect me in Liverpool because so few were smoking.

Dizzyblabla · 09-10-2005 1:09am

I was in Birmingham about 2 weeks ago and I actually still went outside the door to smoke, besides the fact that noone at my table smoked, it just didn't feel right..
There was still alot of people smoking though, but it wasn't allowed in the restaurant part of the pub at all.

Mossy Monk · 09-10-2005 2:00am

finally to arrive in England?

what difference does it make to you if it does or not? do you live there?

seamus · 09-10-2005 2:53am

I'd be surprised if it was as succesful as here. The British have a section of society who are notoriously resistant to change. No matter what the issue, there will always be a hard core who will militantly protest till their dying day.

NoDayBut2Day · 09-10-2005 3:34am

I wish that would happen here.

Oriel · 09-10-2005 4:38am

Deary, it's going to happen in the North before it happens in England. Again we're going to be England's bitch first...

Closing Doors · 09-10-2005 9:00am

Don't see why it wouldn't work...people raised hell over here before it was introduced and now nobody seems to mind.

Lump · 09-10-2005 9:21am

Meh, good news I suppose, I don't know how happy people will be with 24 hours drinking and having to go outside for smokes.

John

Attol · 09-10-2005 9:54am

I really don't see it working. You'd get all your chavs smoking in there anyway. They're always smoking on the trains as it is. Over here there was a law banning smoke in places that serve food iirc. The pub owners have decided that they'd rather stop serving food at all than ban smoking during the times that food is being served. The food service ends at around 6 anyway.

Guy:Incognito · 09-10-2005 9:57am

seamus wrote:

I'd be surprised if it was as succesful as here. The British have a section of society who are notoriously resistant to change. No matter what the issue, there will always be a hard core who will militantly protest till their dying day.

As long as they keep smoking that shouldnt take too long.

Guy:Incognito · 09-10-2005 9:58am

Lump wrote:

Meh, good news I suppose, I don't know how happy people will be with 24 hours drinking and having to go outside for smokes.

John

If your drinking at 5:30 in the morning, going outside for a smoke is the least of your worries.

1huge1 · 09-10-2005 10:06am

id say it will go down the same as it went down here
at first people will give out about and there will be some objections by bar owners but after a while it will be forgotten about and no will think of smoking in pubs etc again
I dont know why everyone says it was irelands idea we got it of california though we were the first in europe

robinph · 09-10-2005 10:57am

Apart form the folks who just like to be akward, I'd say it will actually be a lot easier over there. Or at least there won't be as much beer garden building required as far more pubs already have them than I ever noticed in Ireland before the smoking ban.

Dave! · 09-10-2005 12:45pm

Mossy Monk wrote:

finally to arrive in England?

what difference does it make to you if it does or not? do you live there?

It's a f*cking comment starting a discussion, why don't you stop spamming or get the f*ck out of the thread? Cheers

whiskeyman · 09-10-2005 1:15pm

Anyone who know Manchester well will know there's already a smoking-free pub there (just opposite the town hall).
I popped in for a few pints last time I was there (to remind me of home...) and it was great.
Not only was it smoke free, but they also had excellent air conditioning, something a lot of irish pubs lack.
Since the smoking ban here, its evident how many places have poor hygiene and general ventilation... the smell of the toilets wafting out into the main bar area in some pubs is just unbearable!!

I think it'll work in England. Sure, it'll have teething problems, but it will do well in the long run.
Will be interesting to see if Clarke gets to lead the Tories though.... he's on the board of BAT (something he would have to step down from if he does get into power).

Mossy Monk · 09-10-2005 1:33pm

DaveMcG wrote:

It's a f*cking comment starting a discussion, why don't you stop spamming or get the f*ck out of the thread? Cheers

what crawled up your arse

please tell me what spamming and also i asked the OP if they lived in England and would a smoking ban make an ounce of difference to them considering the location of OP says Cork

Giblet · 09-10-2005 2:48pm

Always the same Dave, banned for a week.

whiskeyman · 09-10-2005 2:55pm

Mossy Monk wrote:

what crawled up your arse

please tell me what spamming and also i asked the OP if they lived in England and would a smoking ban make an ounce of difference to them considering the location of OP says Cork

Perhaps you should have thought if your original post would have made an ounce of difference to the thread.
The smoking ban issue is an interest to most Irish people as we were one of the major nations in the world to bring it in, and seeing our close trading and cultural partner adopt it is going to be of further interest.
Perhaps this should have gone into politics and not AH to avoid such pointless posts...

Mossy Monk · 09-10-2005 3:05pm

if you cared to look at the thread title. finally to arrive.
that sounds like someone who has been looking forward to it happening, i asked what difference does it make to someone in Cork

snickerpuss · 09-10-2005 3:39pm

Maybe she said "finally" because they've been debating and going on about it for months.

Simple Simon · 09-10-2005 3:41pm

snickerpuss wrote:

Maybe she said "finally" because they've been debating and going on about it for months.

Indeed, or maybe because the OP thought that it was something that every country should do; an evolutionary step, if you like. So maybe they thought it was England "getting with the times."

nesf · 09-10-2005 3:51pm

Mossy Monk wrote:

if you cared to look at the thread title. finally to arrive.
that sounds like someone who has been looking forward to it happening, i asked what difference does it make to someone in Cork

I'm from Cork, and it does make a difference to me. I really don't see what you are on about except for possibly a bit of trolling tbh.

Mossy Monk · 09-10-2005 4:13pm

oh yeah, trolling. thats it

Giblet · 09-10-2005 5:01pm

Maybe we should stop reporting any news outside the country aswell then?

WhiteWashMan · 09-10-2005 5:06pm

Mossy Monk wrote:

oh yeah, trolling. thats it

add something to the thread or be quiet. what is it to you what people discuss in other parts of the world that feel the need to comment on them, and not the question in topic is.

discuss the topic at hand, or i will ban you for a)trolling, and b) going off topic.

Gunther_Gloop · 09-10-2005 5:28pm

I've been in a pub (by choice) a total of 2 times since the smoking ban came in. Both of those were during concerts.
I think next we should ban car fumes in garages and stinky turds from toilets.
And I always hated looking at ugly people. Lock em all up I say!
That'll get the popular vote.

WhiteWashMan · 09-10-2005 5:37pm

Gunther_Gloop wrote:

I've been in a pub (by choice) a total of 2 times since the smoking ban came in. Both of those were during concerts.
I think next we should ban car fumes in garages and stinky turds from toilets.
And I always hated looking at ugly people. Lock em all up I say!
That'll get the popular vote.

im always a fan of sarcasm, but im unsure what your point is here.

are you suggesting the smoking ban is pointless, although i do agree with the ugly ban. would certainly improve my strolls down grafton street.

Gunther_Gloop · 09-10-2005 5:46pm

WhiteWashMan wrote:

are you suggesting the smoking ban is pointless, although i do agree with the ugly ban. would certainly improve my strolls down grafton street.

No. I'm not suggesting it's pointless. It's popular and fascistic, not pointless.

Lump · 09-10-2005 5:54pm

I live in London, it makes a difference to me. Anyone from outside England can reply on my behalf

John

WhiteWashMan · 09-10-2005 5:58pm

so you dont think that the majority of the population are in favour of it then?

from what i have read and seen, the majority of people in the UK would be in favour of an all out ban from smoking in pubs.
In fact, wetherspoons currently operates around 60 (i think) smoke free pubs around the UK,a nd plans to make all of them smoke free over the next 2 years.

but im not sure why you would use a word like fascist. that would assume that there was a stong control of social control through terror or censorship. i hardly think the smoking ban is either terror inducing, or a form of censorship. i mean, you can smoke outside? besides, if its popular, im thinking it is then in the majority, and fascism is generally regarded as centralisation of authority under a dictator!

so im still unsure what your point about the toilets and the cars is?

Dizzyblabla · 09-10-2005 6:03pm

Mossy Monk wrote:

if you cared to look at the thread title. finally to arrive.
that sounds like someone who has been looking forward to it happening, i asked what difference does it make to someone in Cork

I take it you never go abroad on holls? Like I said, even in Birmingham 2 weeks ago, I still went outside to smoke. I think the smoking ban is great, and I didn't like the smoky atmosphere in the pub when I was over in England. I'm sure it won't be the last time I visit England, so yes, they finally brought out the smoking ban.

Gunther_Gloop · 09-10-2005 6:11pm

I'm sure nobody wants to get back into discussing the pros and cons of the smoking ban. I know I hate to even consider the thing.
My point is to shed light on the fact that not everybody in the country is at all content with it as is. There's not much point in me saying anything more.

I don't agree with your narrow definition and application of the term 'fascism' by the way, but that's for another day and forum.

nesf · 09-10-2005 6:17pm

Gunther_Gloop wrote:

My point is to shed light on the fact that not everybody in the country is at all content with it as is. There's not much point in me saying anything more.

I don't think people were saying that everyone was content, just that people had accepted the ban and were obeying it. That there wasn't a mass ignoring of the ban that some people had predicted.

Smoking Ban finally to arrive in England?!

Comments