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I wish Irish people would start embracing the beautiful game of cricket

  • 20-09-2005 3:25pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭


    Hi all

    Wouldn't it be great if the mention of the sport of cricket in conversation down the pub would be answered by anything other than scowls and grumbling?

    When I was a young lad growing up in Port Elizabeth, South Africa, my dad would often take me to St. Georges Park to watch Eastern Province play in a local provincial championship game. Ever since those days I have been hooked on cricket. Sure... football is great to watch, and I enjoy spending a Sunday down at Croker, but nothing beats a good game of cricket!

    I've been living in Ireland for the last four years. Four long years of trying to convince my Irish friends that a good one-day international is entertaining viewing. Four years without any converts. They're all still stuck in the mindset that cricket is a symbol of oppression for irish people and also that it is a game played only by wealthy aristocratic Brits. I'd love to take them back to my home town and show them how the kids from all economic backgrounds play cricket in the streets. One of South Africa's best bowlers, Makhaya Ntini,
    grew up in a shanty town and played cricket on a field that he and his fellow players shared with the local herders' cows and sheep.

    The recent success of the England team, winning the ashes for the first time since Ian Botham's heyday, seems to have sparked a bit of local interest. The Irish national team has also recently qualified for the ICC Cricket World Cup which will be played in 2007 in the West Indies.

    I really hope that cricket fever catches on here in Ireland and that the whole country stands behind their local cricket heroes in 2007! Even better... maybe Ireland will get international one-day status and will host a home series against South Africa. I attended the last international friendly at Clontarf cricket ground which South Africa won. It was a great spectacle :D


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭dmck2886


    I don't see how you can compare a game of cricket to rugby, G.A.A or soccer match. To me cricket is not as entertaining as other sports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    mikeruurds wrote:
    maybe Ireland will get international one-day status and will host a home series against South Africa.

    well in theory, now that ireland has qualified for the next world cup we kinda have full odi status (I'm very open to correction)...well at least during that tournament.

    i love cricket and i got hooked listening to the ashes on TMS on BBC4 longwave as it was the only thing on at night when my insomnia struck.

    To me GAA is not as entertaining as cricket, rugby or soccer.....i don't see how you can compare it to other sports :rolleyes: :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Cricket: "a game the english play, and a game that not all english even understand".

    Its like baseball. It just won't catch on to the masses in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Cricket will become more popular as some of the olde Irelande attitudes continue to ebb away, but what'll really do it, at least for a while will be the sight of Ireland in the World Cup. You can be sure the moment they look like winning a match (hopefully!) they'll be no end of bandwagon jumpers and politicians sending best wishes!

    If Ed Joyce should get a full England call up say next summer that'll help too as all the arguements about him selling out to the 'auld enemy' rage!

    As for entertainment, well having sat through at couple of Premiership bore draws already I can safety say the summer games were far more enjoyable even when drawing!

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭R0ot


    Well cricket came from india didnt it? Frankly i hate cricket but thats more than likely because i don't fully understand it, tried watching it stuck it for about an hour and then bogged off to watch Red Vs Blue. Id love to see more basketball on tv again like back in the day channel4 had it on sundays. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    I'd love to see an entertaining game of cricket.

    If you see one PM me and I'll try to get along in a couple of days to see the end. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭mikeruurds


    5th, 7th, 9th October = World XI vs. Australia One Day internationals
    14th - 18th October = World XI vs. Australia Test Match

    These should be a great spectacle as the best players in the world will be on show.

    Sky will be televising all of these matches. I would urge anyone who enjoys sport and is receptive to new experiences to watch one of the one day games... preferably with a friend who understands cricket and can give you a quick crash course on the rules and fill you in on the great personalities of the game. Before you know it you'll be glued to the screen!

    The Squads are as follows (my comments in red):

    ICC World XI ODI squad

    1. Shaun Pollock (capt) - Fast bowler from South Africa known for his precise bowling and focus on line and length. Very economical
    2. Virender Sehwag - Indian batsman who likes to score quickly
    3. Sachin Tendulkar (vc) - Indian batsman and captain of the indian side... arguably the best batsman in world cricket when he's on a roll
    4. Jacques Kallis - South african all-rounder brilliant with the bat and can take wickets with his medium-fast bowling
    5. Brian Lara - West Indian captain and batting maestro
    6. Kevin Pietersen - South African traitor who now plays for england :D An exciting batsman who shows very little respect for any bowling attack
    7. Herschelle Gibbs - An exciting South African batsman who can destroy any attack
    8. Andrew Flintoff - One of the top all-rounders in world cricket today. English player who won man of the series in the recent Ashes tournament
    9. Kumar Sangakkara - Sri Lankan wicket keeper who can also make some quick runs when asked to do a little batting
    10. Shahid Afridi - Holder of the record for the fastest one-day hundred and bowler of note (Pakistan)
    11. Shoaib Akhtar - Pakistani bowler with the ability to bowl faster than any other bowler in the world
    12. Makhaya Ntini - South African fast bowler who likes to bowl from different angles to expose the batsman's defence. Most regard him as the fittest cricketer in the international scene.
    13. Muttiah Muralitharan - Prodigious spinner with an unorthodox action - can turn the ball at almost right-angles :) Sril Lanka
    14. Daniel Vettori - New Zealand orthodox spinner... not a great turner of the ball, but focuses on accuracy of line and length

    Player reactions:
    Player reaction to Johnnie Walker Super Series squad announcement

    Mark Harrison

    July 2, 2005

    Andrew Flintoff, England:

    "It's great. I'm pleased I'm in the 20 but I desperately hope I'm in the final 14. The opportunity to play in Australia for the World XI and share a dressing room with some of the best players in the world is something I would desperately love to be involved in."

    Ricky Ponting, Australia:

    "It's an exciting prospect for all of the players involved in the team, not just the Australians, but everyone involved in the World XI as well. It's a great addition to the international calendar and I know that every single player in the Australian team is really looking forward to it.

    "It's going to be a fantastic spectacle and I'm sure the crowds down in Australia will get right behind it. It should be very, very special when you've got a side including outstanding players like Flintoff, Vaughan, Tendulkar, Sehwag, Vettori, Inzamam and Shoaib."

    Rahul Dravid, India:

    "It's an honour to be selected, to be considered among some of the best players in the world at the moment. There are some great names in the squad and just to be considered is a huge honour, it means a lot.

    "Australia will have the advantage of having played a lot of cricket together, of knowing each other very well. But I think that will be the challenge for the ICC World XI side; to get together and become a unit for those games. I don't think that will be difficult, I think there's a lot at stake and the players who are selected will realise it's a huge honour and a privilege to be in that team. I'm sure they will make every effort to make it work.

    "The games will be very competitive. The Australian will want to win those games and whoever is selected for the World XI side will definitely be trying not to let that happen."

    Shoaib Akhtar, Pakistan:

    "It's a great honour for me and a great opportunity to bowl against some of the biggest stars. I love playing against Australia."

    "If I was selected I would take it very seriously. I like to do well against Australia all the time, but it won't be easy, I would say."

    Anil Kumble, India:

    "I think it's a great honour to be part of the squad, I guess it's a reward for the efforts and successes I've had against the Aussies over the last couple of years. As a cricketer you definitely want to be in the top rung and it's a good thing to be part of that.

    "Australia playing as a team has an advantage, but I guess the World XI has talent and great players so it would be very interesting."

    Graeme Smith, South Africa:

    "Australia has got a powerhouse side and they've dominated world cricket for a while now. They've played against all of the players who might be selected and done well against them, but if the World XI side can gel well and play well, it could be a very exciting series."

    The Test squad is as follows:
    ICC World XI Test squad

    Graeme Smith (capt), Virender Sehwag, Rahul Dravid (vc), Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Jacques Kallis, Andrew Flintoff, Shaun Pollock, Mark Boucher, Steve Harmison, Shoaib Akhtar, Muttiah Muralitharan, Daniel Vettori.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭mikeruurds


    Hagar wrote:
    I'd love to see an entertaining game of cricket.

    If you see one PM me and I'll try to get along in a couple of days to see the end. :D

    Hi Hagar... see my posting above. If you watch one of the one-day games above you won't need to wait till the last day :D

    A one day game consists of two halves. Each team gets a maximum of 50 overs to bat. Each over consists of 6 balls. An over can be increased if the bowler is penalised by the umpire for bowling illegal balls and the batting side is awarded a run for an illegal ball (wide or no-ball). The normal time allocation is about 15 overs an hour, so each half should take only take about 4 hours (including drinks breaks). There is an hour interval between halves or innings.
    The fielding team can be penalised at the umpire's discretion if they overshoot the 15 over per hour time limit... usually the penalty is that they have over docked off of their 50 over allotment when it's their turn to bat. So... you're looking at about 9 hours of viewing pleasure.

    The games are being played in Australia, so I'm not sure when Sky will be showing the games. If you want to ease yourself into it, try watching the highlights of the first game and then have a go at watching the full second game.

    It is very rare that a one day game results in a draw. All the team batting second has to do is pass the target run score set by the team batting first within their 50 overs. Each team only has 11 batsmen and, as there have to always be two batsmen on the field at all times, they can only lose 10 "wickets" before their batting innings is over. So... they have to pass the other teams score before they lose all 10 wickets and within the 50 overs. If they lose all 10 of their wickets or fail to pass the opponents score, they lose. A draw results if they manage to achieve exactly the same score as their opponent.

    I hope that you give it a go... it will certainly widen your choices when deciding which sports channel to watch on the weekend! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭mikeruurds


    the_syco wrote:
    Cricket: "a game the english play, and a game that not all english even understand".

    Its like baseball. It just won't catch on to the masses in Ireland.

    That's what they said about rugby...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Very informative. Great stuff. Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭scargill


    posh rounders, imo !

    seriously, watched World Cup Australia v India (one-day World Cup final) in an aussie bar in 2003 and have to say it was good craic. Didn't know a thing about the game until then - have to say it wasn't bad at all (Australia won handy enough as far as I can remember).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭mikeruurds


    RuggieBear wrote:
    well in theory, now that ireland has qualified for the next world cup we kinda have full odi status (I'm very open to correction)...well at least during that tournament.

    No... unfortunately full ODI status has to be granted by the ICC as was the case with Bangladesh recently. If Ireland were to make it through the pool stages in 2007 it would result in a persuasive argument for granting that status.

    Even a win against any of the sides in their pool could make an impression on the ICC.

    The beauty of the World Cup is that it allows the top sides in the second tier of world cricket to play against the first tier on the international stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Hi Mike,

    I'm not 100% sure You should post that offer. Sky pay alot of money for the exclusive right for this and and other sports.

    Don't think they would appreciate you infringing upon their copyright....


    would you mind editing your message?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭mikeruurds


    RuggieBear wrote:
    Hi Mike,

    I'm not 100% sure You should post that offer. Sky pay alot of money for the exclusive right for this and and other sports.

    Don't think they would appreciate you infringing upon their copyright....


    would you mind editing your message?

    Silly me... edited :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Thanks Mike. Just a little unsure on how legal it would be. i offered something similar when the lions was on over on the rugby forum and i was advised the same. Makes sense, i suppose, with Irelands silly publishing laws


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭mikeruurds


    That's ok... guess it means there's a barbecue over at my place to watch it then :D


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