Marathon Running

joejoem

Im considering taking the New York Marathon to be a goal, as in Im thinking of running it in 2006. For someone who doesnt run competativley is this unrealistic? My gym buddy is also considering it so there would be two of us to drive eachother. Has anyone ever done it? How long did you train for? Is there any tips you would have?

Thanks in advance.

mcguiver

6 months of training would get you around in a respectable time.... just remember New York is a lottery marathon.... limited places etc. Having a training partner is half the battle.

run_Forrest_run

HI, I have done 2 marathons (Paris 04 & 05) and am doing Dublin this October and I have a guaranteed entry for NY marathon. Beware that due to the huge numbers it is pure pot luck to gain entry for the NYC marathon..I entered the lottery draw and I was lucky to be drawn.
About the training, before my first marathon I was not a hugely fit person. I was never really into running so the marathon was just a goal really! I trained for about 5 months for the first marathon and found that perfect...I was ready for it. Check out http://www.halhigdon.com for some great training schedules. Oh yeah, very important..get a good pair of running shoes...go to a shop that know stuff about running (NOT Champion sports, Lifestyle etc..). I live in Cork so John Buckley sports is the number one place to go. I went in and he took a look at my feet and could tell what type of shoe would be best for my foot..Asics Gel Keyano BTW.

bmurphy8177

I am not sure but is there a particular standard/time you have to reach to run the marathon in New York.
I never heard of it been a lottery. It could be wrong so feel free to contradict. Just thought id say it anyway!

Other than that a marathon in Novemeber 2006 is definitely a realistic target.
Plenty of disciplined training and you will be grand.

joejoem

Cheers guys. Yeah I heard the New York one is a lottery alright, but Im planning on also doing it for charity. I reckon it would be an extra drive for me if I started collecting money now I should raise a good few k by the time it comes around and I think running for charity would give us a place straigh away. Feeling better about it now, its a bit scary though! But if I start to raise money for charity and I have the running partner I would know that there was no backing out!

Any more stories or advice would be great!

iregk

Ran the dublin one last year great advice above on the runners. Dont go near lifestyle or champion etc... Get yourself to elverys and get Asics Gel Kayano. They are about €130 but they are the best in the business and any runner will tell you the same. You can also get the socks to go with them wtih gel cusioning in them. together these make for one amazingly comfortable run. Takes some time to get used to though so never buy and compete straight away, run in them a few weeks before hand before a race.

Also with 6 months of training your giving yourself enough time to get around in a decent time. Do a log and keep a record of your distance and time. Dont kill yourself time wise, just get the distance under your belt. No shame at all in 4hr for a marathon first time out just finishing it is the prize regardless of time.

But also yes the NY is a lottery based application.

daveirl

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p.pete

I'd highly recommend Paris - the only other one I've done was Madrid and Paris was miles better. Very interesting route, reasonably flat, good weather, well organised etc etc

Plus it's not a lottery to get into Paris.

judesherry

HI I’ve being interested in doing a marathon for a while now but my problem is where to train. I live in the middle of nowhere and the roads aren’t safe to run on, I don’t like gyms and can’t see how a tread mill can be good enough for long distant running. The only other thing I can think of is a football pitch but I’m sure that after 50 laps it will get very boring. Plus what happens in winter.

Just wondering where do you all train in winter and summer.

Transform

If you want something enough you will focus on the solution NOT the problem!!

If it means 50laps then so be it. If it means you have to drive 30mins to get to open areas and well lit up then so be it.

I remember running last feb or march when it was snowing heavily in dublin - it was a one hour run and all the way around i was thinking "i am running on this day so i will run on ANY day".

No such thing as bad weather just the wrong clothes. With all goals comes asking yourself the question of not what do i have to do but what do i have to STOP DOING AND STOP THINKING in order to achieve this goal.

I am doing the marathon in october in 3hrs 30mins

joejoem

Transform wrote:

I am doing the marathon in october in 3hrs 30mins

Good luck! Ill be there next year hopefully.

daveirl

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Gazza22

As an aside...anybody doing the Simon fun run on the 9th of October? It's only 5 miles

copacetic

Transform wrote:

I am doing the marathon in october in 3hrs 30mins

transform, how did you decide on your goal pace? My training has been
going reasonably well and I think 3.30 should be doable, but everyone
I know says take it really easy in your first Marathon. Planning on giving the
half on Saturday a hard effort and using it to judge my Marathon pace, eg 2xhalf time + 10 mins or one of those race pace calcs, how did you pick your pace?

Transform

The 3hrs 30mins time is what a client of mine wants to run it in - 50 years young this month!!!

So we have been training for it for the last 6 months and i picked that time as his goal. I personally would like to do it in 3 hrs or less the next time i do it (next year).

Yes this is my first but not his first.

Our long run last saturday was 2hrs 10mins for 17miles so just another 4 long runs before the big one left and will build to 20-22mile run.
Decided not to run the half marathon as was advised by lots of people that its the wrong distance to do so close to the marathon.

joejoem

Transform wrote:

The 3hrs 30mins time is what a client of mine wants to run it in - 50 years young this month!!!

So we have been training for it for the last 6 months and i picked that time as his goal. I personally would like to do it in 3 hrs or less the next time i do it (next year).

Yes this is my first but not his first.

Our long run last saturday was 2hrs 10mins for 17miles so just another 4 long runs before the big one left and will build to 20-22mile run.
Decided not to run the half marathon as was advised by lots of people that its the wrong distance to do so close to the marathon.

Can you give me any advice on how to build up to the goal? What kind of training should I be doing and how frequently?
Cheers

Transform

Wayyyyyy to much to go into detail - look at any of the marathon training guidlines on the net or in the Irish Runner mag.

Corksham

I read somewhere before that the NY is quite a difficult run and not really a first timers as it is quite hilly does anyone know anything about that, I could be wrong here.
Im doing the London one in April

Best of luck with the training

joejoem

Corksham wrote:

I read somewhere before that the NY is quite a difficult run and not really a first timers as it is quite hilly does anyone know anything about that, I could be wrong here.
Im doing the London one in April

Best of luck with the training

How did you enter the London one? I would love to do that, its perfectly timed too, 6 Months before the New York one

copacetic

Transform wrote:

The 3hrs 30mins time is what a client of mine wants to run it in - 50 years young this month!!!

So we have been training for it for the last 6 months and i picked that time as his goal. I personally would like to do it in 3 hrs or less the next time i do it (next year).

Yes this is my first but not his first.

Our long run last saturday was 2hrs 10mins for 17miles so just another 4 long runs before the big one left and will build to 20-22mile run.
Decided not to run the half marathon as was advised by lots of people that its the wrong distance to do so close to the marathon.

thats interesting, had the opposite advice from a few very experienced athletes and most of the programmes I based mine ofnadvised that a half 4-5 weeks out is very valuable, either as a marathon test pace run where you could also test out your shoes, race gear and refueling. Or as a hard run to work out a good marathon pace. Or just as a break from LSD every week.

Hence why it is part of the build up races for the Marathon..

honeymonster

Is there many people doin the dublin marathon in oct? Was thinkin of doin it, been joggin along the canal quite a bit. its about 7.5k jog, round trip from my house, which i do in 35min (feckin cars keep gettin in me way) but i do be fairly ****in tired after, kinda on the fense about doin over 40k.

p.pete

tis actually over 42 km
I wouldn't punish myself I were you honeymonster - try running your route 2 or 3 times in one session and see how you feel afterwards. You're probably in reasonable shape from the running you're doing at the moment and you could probably train for a reasonable marathon in 2 or 3 months but 5 weeks isn't very realistic.

p.pete

daveym wrote:

thats interesting, had the opposite advice from a few very experienced athletes and most of the programmes I based mine ofnadvised that a half 4-5 weeks out is very valuable, either as a marathon test pace run where you could also test out your shoes, race gear and refueling. Or as a hard run to work out a good marathon pace. Or just as a break from LSD every week.

Hence why it is part of the build up races for the Marathon..

I'd back that up - you shouldn't be doing all long runs and 13miles is still a reasonable distance regardless. One long run skipped in place of a fast longish run could prove invaluable. Plus getting out there and running an actual race with other competitors helps ease any nerves you may have for the big one if you're not too used to running in actual races.

Corksham

joejoem wrote:

How did you enter the London one? I would love to do that, its perfectly timed too, 6 Months before the New York one

http://www.london-marathon.co.uk/iframes/news/main.htm
this has the official application process

http://www.sportstoursinternational.co.uk/
This crowd allow you to book from abroad

Downtime

Corksham wrote:

I read somewhere before that the NY is quite a difficult run and not really a first timers as it is quite hilly does anyone know anything about that, I could be wrong here.
Im doing the London one in April

Best of luck with the training

Yeah New York is quite a difficult run, there are a few hills especially at the start over the Verzanno - Narrows bridge and onwards through Brooklyn is quite hilly and is towards the end. It is a great marathon - excellent fun and very entertaining. A great way to see New York - I ran through a charity / fundraising which guarantees entry.

bullrunner

i just checked the dublin marathon website. didnt realise entry fee was 70Euro! (if you register before 1st aug is 50eur)..