whats the differene?

sei046

between the ls75q and the ls85q? it seems musicmaker are doing a pretty ok price on the 75q i think! not sure around 850. whats the difference in those guitars tho? i am lookin for the 85q to buy

Doctor J

Model: NLS75Q CS
Body:Quilted Maple Top veneer
Mahogany Back
Neck:Mahogany Set-Neck
Fingerboar:Rosewood
Bridge:Gotoh, Japan
Tailpiece:Gotoh, Japan
Machineheads:Gotoho, Japan
Pickups: Gotoh, Japan
Controls:2v, 2T
Color:CS(Cherry Sunburst)
Place of Origin:Hamamatsu,
Japan





TOKAI LS85Q/HDC
Body : quilted maple laminated/rock maple top ; Mahogany 2pc back.
Neck : Mahogany set neck.
Fingerboard : Rosewood.
Pickups/PAF-Vintage MK1
Finish/Polyurethane
Color/Cherry_sunburst/Violin_finish/Oak/Heritage_dark_cherry
Other/Pick-guard is included.
A case is not included.

Price/List price (89,250yen in tax)
Your price >>>>> (71,400yen in tax)
Made in Japan.




Going on that, it looks like the 85 has a more accurate lower horn to the original.

Johnny Storm

You can get the LS85Q from Ishibashi, incl shipping and VAT etc for about €770 and the 75 (NOT Q, they dont seem to have 75Q on Ishibashi) for €700.

*** Dr J, without asking you to give away any of your trade secrets, where did you see that info on the 75Q?

Doctor J

Without giving everything away I say here

Voodu Child

Theres actually a strange doubling of contour shapes throughout the whole tokai range. Some of tokais foreign websites show the entire range with those 'wrong' horn shapes, others show the entire range with the faithful LP contours. Those funny horn shapes only appeared about 2 years ago, but the original shape loverocks are still available, so the whole thing seems a bit strange. I can only presume they alter the contours of some models for certain markets due to legal issues....
Regardless, the shape has no bearing on the quality of the guitar, because it appears across the range, there are models made with both shapes, which have otherwise identical specifications..

Kenny_D

Careful of those ones in Musician Inc. They have a few Koreans floating among their stock. Stay clear of the Korean models

sei046

how do you know what the vat will be? as in customs?

feylya

Have a look in the Charter.

sei046

who exactly has dealt with ishibashi? everything go ok? most i could be payin really on 700 euro would be 140 euro anyway wouldnt it? i wouldnt mind that

Johnny Storm

sei046 wrote:

how do you know what the vat will be? as in customs?

If you're asking me, sei046, the figures I quoted already INCLUDE VAT Duty shipping etc. Vat is 21% of total cost, Duty is 3.2%
"You can get the LS85Q from Ishibashi, including shipping and VAT etc for about €770 and the 75 (NOT Q, they dont seem to have 75Q on Ishibashi) for €700."

Have a look in the Music Resourses Sticky for details of all this stuff

sei046

what was that site with the yen-euro calculator and what is the best way ordering from japan? do i sent the cheque by post or can i use mastercards etc...

Johnny Storm

Personally I use this one but there's millions of them.

Credit card is your best bet because if you dont receive the goods in good order you can claim back from the credit card company.

sei046

oh so i can order the same way i would with musicstore or thomann ye? That would be the handiestfor me. Fill in card details on net and they just ship it? Have you dealt with them no?

Johnny Storm

No I never actually bought naything from them. I nearly did though and asked them a few questions by email - they were very helpful and write excellent English. Other people here on this forum have had positive experiences with them.

sei046

i am just put off because i cant bloody understand whats going on when it comes to actually ordering! i sent them an e-mail and hope that answersa few questions but its just too hard to understand what to do when it comes to actually buying on that site

Johnny Storm

I think you have to send them an email giving them details of your order then you go to their secure SSL website and pay with your credit card.

Here's an email I got from them in Feb:

Quote:" We accept payment by a credit card ( VISA, Master and AMEX ) and by bank wire. Bank wire fee 3,000 Yen will be required in addition if you choose bank wire payment. When your order is firm, we will give you detailed information about payment.

3. Yes. When you place an order, please advise me of the following information by e-mail. 1. Your name,
2. Address,
3. Phone number,
4. Holders name of your card,
5. Expire data of the card.
( Do not enter your card number for security of your card. )

We have our SSL site for sending a credit card number with security. Please go to the following----
https://www.ishibashi.co.jp/webshop/card/card.htm
(* Please ignore the box at the bottom right next to the "Click")

Merchandise will be shipped after your payment is completed. Delivery time is approximately one week.

If you have question, please let me know.
Thank you very much.

Best regards,
Noriko Sada
-End quote

Voodu Child

Here ya go....just buy the damn guitar, so we can here what you think of it...

We accept a payment by a credit card ( VISA, Mastercard and AMEX ) and by a
bank wire.
Bank wire fee of 3,000 YEN will be required in addition in a bank wire payment.
When your order is firm, we will give you detailed information about your
payment.


In the case that you are going to pay by a credit card, please follow the steps.
(We accept VISA, Mastercard, and AMEX, so that you can process for a payment by
each of
VISA and Mastercard.)

Step 1, Please let me know the following information by e-mail.
1. Your name,
2. Address,
3. Phone number,
4. Holders name of the card,
5. Expire data of the card.
( Do not submit the card number for security in e-mail.)

Step 2: Please submit your card number through the following webpage,
https://www.ishibashi.co.jp/webshop/card/card.htm .
(To avoid your card number leaks out, be sure to do the process through above
webpage.)

Step 3: We will charge the estimated amount.

Step 4: After your payment is completed, we will send the item to you.
It may take 1 week that the item reaches you after your payment is completed.


Any tax is not required in Japan, however, you will have to pay an import duty
in your country.
We do not know how much you should pay for the item.
If you need more information about the import duty, please ask the customs at
your end.

We use EMS ( Express Mail Service ) for shipment.
EMS is a door to door delivery system via International Postal Service, which
is safe, fast, reasonable and insured.
Delivery will be done within a week after your payment is completed.

If you receive your order in either damaged or defected condition,
please let us know within 48 hours after the arrival of your package(s).
Insurance you pay with your EMS shipping fee will cover the cost for a
new complete replacement of your order, or any cost occurred in case
you choose your item to be repaired at your end of services.

Voodu Child

You bast***

Johnny Storm

Great minds think alike, Voodoo Child (or in the case of you and me......)

sei046

lol hate that! thanks guys. Good stuff! might go ahead and do it in next few days. and yes i am well aware of the no pics banning rule when i get it anyway. such a damn sexy guitar though... u can hear it go......BRAAAUUMMM!!!!!

Voodu Child

They sent me a longer email...nyahhhh

Johnny Storm

Hey Voodoo_Child - did'ya ever stand up next to a mountain and then chop it down with the edge of your hand ?

Voodu Child

All this talking of Ishibashi makes me want another J custom...like this one they have...


Not quite that sext PRS blue colour, but not too shabby, and very different...
I feel an onset of GAS...

sei046

for the guitar and hardcase its 623euro.....so vat of what... 130 euro then whats shipping? do i pay the vat at the door or what?

and has my spelling error in the thread not been driving everyones head in?

Voodu Child

sei046 wrote:

for the guitar and hardcase its 623euro.....so vat of what... 130 euro then whats shipping? do i pay the vat at the door or what?

You asked me this already about a month ago sei, and I went to the trouble of writing a detailed and helpful PM which answers all the questions you are asking again. Check your inbox.. :mad:

sei046

that was you!? i was looking for that damn message knowing that all of that info was in it but its not there! Sorry, i meant to keep it coz it had everythin. I did appreciate it i promise!