v. persie red card

wheres me jumpa · 14-09-2005 9:14pm #1

deserved?

its a very high tackle but seemingly no intent so im going undeserved. im just wondering how the suspension will go. will uefa step in and reduce/cancel the ban?

HashSlinging · 14-09-2005 9:17pm

totally deserved, he nearly took the guys face off..

scojones · 14-09-2005 9:17pm

Just because it wasn't intentional doesn't mean he shouldn't have been sent off. He didn't mean to do it, granted, but it was dangerous play, very dangerous play.

Necronomicon · 14-09-2005 9:17pm

It was dangerous, but I don't think there was any intent. So I think maybe undeserved. But you know what they say about Europe, foot in the air will always be a free kick, so by those standards it's not really surprising.

RasTa · 14-09-2005 9:18pm

Maybe no intent but it was extremly dangerous and he almost took the dudes head off. Had to go

mr_angry · 14-09-2005 9:19pm

I think the referee was the only person in Europe who thought that incident deserved any kind of card-related punishment. You can see in the replays that Van Persie is looking at the ball coming over his shoulder the whole time, and never even sees the Thun player.

Insane.

super_furry · 14-09-2005 9:22pm

Never a red card. He made an honest attempt to win the ball, that while it resulted in an injury for an opponent, was in no way malicious. A yellow card at most.

Guy:Incognito · 14-09-2005 9:23pm

No way it was a red, yellow definately for a high foot but he wasnt tryign to do him.

Third_Echelon · 14-09-2005 9:29pm

Unintentional high boot... yellow card at most.

If there was intent to take the guys head off, then yes red, but there was no intent there at all.

The ref will look at the tape and see his mistake. Im sure it will be downgraded to a yellow if that can be done in the CL.

mr_angry · 14-09-2005 9:30pm

That Bergkamp goal was f*cking deadly though. Pure class. Up there with his best.

Spider_Baby! · 14-09-2005 9:30pm

He had his eyes on the ball, until the last second - literally when he kicked the defender in the face. A yellow, i would've said.

wheres me jumpa · 14-09-2005 9:32pm

its a tough call. for once i dont think van persie meant any harm. what had wenger to say about it?

Spider_Baby! · 14-09-2005 9:41pm

He thought it was unintentional as well, and thought that the red was harsh.

mike65 · 14-09-2005 9:41pm

wheres me jumpa wrote:

what had wenger to say about it?

Did he see it?!

Mike.

wheres me jumpa · 14-09-2005 9:46pm

i notice vieira got sent off in the 89th minute for juve. what happened there?

Mossy Monk · 14-09-2005 9:59pm

definately should have been a yellow imo

Guy:Incognito · 14-09-2005 10:00pm

2nd yellow. he lifted hs leg into a player going by him on the halfway line. Hes a gob****e, it was a totally pointless excercise.

1st yellow was a nothing foul.

Speaking of red cards, rooney is a bloody child.

wheres me jumpa · 14-09-2005 10:10pm

just saw vieira's there now. stupidity in the 89th minute. rooney was extremely childish. jopefully this red card means he learns to grow up a bit and act like a pro who wants to win.

HashSlinging · 14-09-2005 10:12pm

Rooneys great ! he's a legend!!! v.pissi was right to be sent off ... twat what was he thinking..

wheres me jumpa · 14-09-2005 10:22pm

HashSlinging wrote:

Rooneys great ! he's a legend!!! v.pissi was right to be sent off ... twat what was he thinking..

s**t stirrer be gone!

Irish Gunner · 14-09-2005 11:09pm

Well just back from the Westmoreland Pub after watching it with other Dublin Gooners and for fecks sake no way man

Vp was watching the ball but typical european refs foot high its a card. Ok maybe a yellow at least

On another note please Arsene tell them to not walk the ball into the net one pass to far for fecks sake SHOOT

eirebhoy · 15-09-2005 9:00am

HashSlinging wrote:

totally deserved, he nearly took the guys face off..

So its all about luck? If nobody was behind van Persie he deserved a yellow? A high foot is a yellow full stop. The reason its a yellow is because its dangerous play. Its also dangerous for a keeper to come out and punch a ball in a packed box. If he hits someone unintentionally it doesn't mean he has to be sent off. If he did it on purpose its obviously a red but he clearly had his eye on the ball and no way could have seen the player.

Thanx 4 The Fish · 15-09-2005 9:02am

HashSlinging wrote:

Rooneys great ! he's a legend!!! v.pissi was right to be sent off ... twat what was he thinking..

You are banned for a week as are your sponsors, I will quote them here in a min.

Pal and Mad m

yop · 15-09-2005 9:06am

Yellow for sure, very unlucky.

Ya Mike65 he for once did see it and the goal believe it or not

evilhomer · 15-09-2005 9:28am

No more then a yellow. Absolutely no intent in that challenge, he didn't even know the guy was behind him! watching the ball all the way. Unlucky, he is a really good player and that was a big chance for him to impress.

Arsene Wenger wrote:

The Frenchman was quick to defend Van Persie after the Dutch forward was given his marching orders for going in with his studs against Thun defender Alen Orman.

The challenge left the former Hibernian player with a nasty cut on his head, although Wenger felt it was an unintentional clash that did not merit a red card for the Arsenal star.

"It was not Robin's fault - there was no purpose. He wanted to play the ball," he stated.

"He got a high ball, and never saw the opponent, never looked somewhere else than at the ball - it was an accident.

"For me, it is never a red card."

ciaran76 · 15-09-2005 9:43am

wheres me jumpa wrote:

deserved?

its a very high tackle but seemingly no intent so im going undeserved. im just wondering how the suspension will go. will uefa step in and reduce/cancel the ban?

I don't think there was any intention in what he did but was very dangerous. For arguements sake if that guy had lost an eye last night people would have been on here calling for him to be banned for life etc etc.

Thanx 4 The Fish · 15-09-2005 9:49am

And for arguments sake had he won the ball with nobody near him kept it in and then ran on to score a goal then he would have been the best player in world football ever. H went for and got the ball, there was a guy there, should have been a yellow for dangerous play, he had no intent to injure the player who he did not even know was there.

Kingp35 · 15-09-2005 9:58am

There was definitely no intent in there at all and it warranted a yellow card at the most. He clearly had his eye on the ball the whole time and never saw the player. It was obviously a total accident and never was it a red card. If he had took the players eye out it still wouldnt have warranted a red card as again it still would have been an accident. very bad decision by the referee.

Arsenal were very lucky. they need to buy someone with the ability to head the ball so that they can cross the ball in and not try and walk it in all the time

MrJoeSoap · 15-09-2005 12:22pm

Just saw it, can't believe people think it justified a red. Totally concentrating on the ball, the only thing I find amazing is that he could get his foot that high! Certainly a yellow card for me.

Highlights here

F365 Mediawatch wrote:

A Slight Difference Of Interpretation
'And then came Van Persie's dismissal for a foul that was more misfortune than misdeed. With his eyes focused firmly on the ball the Holland international soared in an attempt to trap it in mid-air' - The Times.

'It appeared inadvertent, and surely was, but the Polish referee Grzegorz Gilewski instantly showed the red card' - The Independent.

'Malice played no part in Van Persie's thinking...The Dutchman was clearly focusing solely on the ball as he raised his boot high off the ground....no nasty intent could be detected in Van Persie's actions. The missing Henry has made a habit of plucking the ball athletically out of the air' - The Daily Telegraph.

'Robin van Persie saw red for a shocking head-high challenge at Highbury last night. FC Thun's Alen Orman was left with blood pouring from face wounds after the Dutch hotshot's 44th-minute lunge' - The Sun.

Funny stuff altogether.

Guy:Incognito · 15-09-2005 1:10pm

If anything the defender was a bit thick. Van Persie was looking behind him at teh ball, the defender was running towards VP and stuck his head at the ball knowing VP foot was there. Bit thick or commited? maybe a bit of each. Or maybe he was looking up and didnt see vp, i dont know.

evilhomer · 15-09-2005 3:30pm

'Robin van Persie saw red for a shocking head-high challenge at Highbury last night. FC Thun's Alen Orman was left with blood pouring from face wounds after the Dutch hotshot's 44th-minute lunge' - The Sun

Obviously the Sun reporter is not an Arsenal fan. That's the kind of unbiased reporting we have come to expect from the sun.

He probably thought that Rooney deserved to stay on too

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