Revolution Controller

dimerocks

have heard reports that the revolutions controller is to be unleashed upon the world on september the 19th at some show.ill look for a link now.......

LookingFor

Nintendo's president, Satoru Iwata, is presenting the keynote speech at the Tokyo Game Show, starting September 16th. This Friday. TGS runs from the 16th to the 18th. If you were looking to stay up, the keynote will start at 3am Irish time on Thursday night/Friday morning

It's pretty much expected at this stage that he's going to show off Revolution "properly" at this, including the controller.

You never know, there may be some reports and leaks before that too - for example, DS information/picture was leaked in a USAToday online article just before E3 2004. Nintendo likes to shop their announcements around mainstream media outlets for reporting simultaneous with their big announcements, and often that reporting arrives a little early.

The new edition of Famitsu will also be out perhaps by Wednesday, and there may be some hints in that of what to expect. That same issue will have Metal Gear Solid 4 coverage before the show itself, so you never know, they might have something about Nintendo too

Rhyme

I like Rainbow Kirby's sig's idea...

"Rumours that the Nintendo Revolution controller will feature eleven analog sticks, a 32" touch screen and be covered with human skin are probably untrue."

I await this impatiently... cant wait to see what genius Nintendo whips out

dimerocks

cheers mate,not only did i not find the link i got the date wrong.right idea at least!

flogen

I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much, but surely Nintendo realise that they have to pull it out of the bag here, nothing to do with competition, but the hype they've given the controller themselves is sure to make the audience extremely critical.

evad_lhorg

it's on at like 03:00 on friday mornin so if yous are awake im sure gamespot or somethin will have a feed/

dimerocks

turns out im working fiday night!guess il be up to see the launch

RE*AC*TOR

I don't know what they can do here really - nothing will be as good as it has been built up to. Unless they can somehow manage to create a controller that is all things to all people (with a touch screen and tilt sensors!).

I expect something with fewer buttons than previous, I don't expect a touch screen - as the tv is the screen for a console - no point in touch a different screen. Its gonna probably have two analog sticks, lest it rule out a huge variety of gaming possiblities.

Really - it can't be THAT revolutionary. Remember, the backcatelog will be available to play on the revolution - so your hardly going to play those old nes games with some sort of floating orb!!

dimerocks

an orb you say...

flogen

evad_lhorg wrote:

it's on at like 03:00 on friday mornin so if yous are awake im sure gamespot or somethin will have a feed/

is that 3 friday morning or 3 saturday morning... just incase you count the hours after 12 as the same day (with the new one starting once you wake up again)!

dimerocks

good question the 16th wasn't it?

evad_lhorg

it means staying up on thursday night until 3am friday morning.

Syth

I'm not getting up in the hype. Hopefully they'll show it though.

projectmayhem

if they don't show it lots of nintendo fans will be more pissed off then they already are (people aint happy after e3)... i'm not a big fan but i'd like to see this "revolution", because so far this thing has just been a design rip-off of the monolith from 2001:a space odyssey, and has had nothing "revolutionary" to bring to the party

Retr0gamer

projectmayhem wrote:

if they don't show it lots of nintendo fans will be more pissed off then they already are (people aint happy after e3)... i'm not a big fan but i'd like to see this "revolution", because so far this thing has just been a design rip-off of the monolith from 2001:a space odyssey, and has had nothing "revolutionary" to bring to the party

Just like the PS2. It ripped off the Monolith from 2001, promised loads and did nothing revolutionary

Dermo

projectmayhem wrote:

if they don't show it lots of nintendo fans will be more pissed off then they already are (people aint happy after e3)... i'm not a big fan but i'd like to see this "revolution", because so far this thing has just been a design rip-off of the monolith from 2001:a space odyssey, and has had nothing "revolutionary" to bring to the party

I didn't hear many people complain about them not showing much at e3, they had told everyone well before that they weren't going to show anything. They have been keeping the controller completly secret because that is what is so revolutionary about it. They don't want Sony or MS to be able to add this function into their consoles and if they showed it at e3 Sony probably could've worked it into theirs if they so wanted.
The more they keep it secret (must be the best kept secret in gaming ever!) the more hype it builds as well, and even if they don't show it this weekend I'm not going to be dissapointed because they haven't actually come out and said they are announcing something, yes it's weird they are doing a speech, but going back they don't usually set up an exhibit in Tokyo for some reason or another...

we'll find out everything soon hopefully

flogen

I really can't wait to see what it is. I'm not getting my hopes up, but surely they have something to back all this talk up, and apparently it isn't a touch screen (well, probably not).
I hope it's not tilt sensitivity, that's not revolutionary at all IMO

evad_lhorg

You do know it's just gonna be a poxy gyroscopic controller ye? it will be a huge disappointment until you actually get to play it. and SONY will swipe the idea anyway.

dimerocks

so long as we dont get another virtual boy type thing.

Jimi-Spandex

I think it may well be some sort of touch screen but one that can make the controller's button layout differ depending on the game.

So lets say if you are playing a nes game the touchpad look like d-pad select/start a/b buttons, all oldschool and stuff.

It'll have to look damn good as well.

flogen

Jimi-Spandex wrote:

I think it may well be some sort of touch screen but one that can make the controller's button layout differ depending on the game.

So lets say if you are playing a nes game the touchpad look like d-pad select/start a/b buttons, all oldschool and stuff.

It'll have to look damn good as well.

yeah, that's something I've thought of myself, but as someone pointed out, it may fail because there is no tactile handling, so if your controller is always changing and there are no physical buttons it will be harder to actually play a game without looking (no way to navigate with touch alone).
Some kind of movable buttons would be nice if it could be pulled off well, but I don't know how.

wayne040576

Well they finally revealed the controller at the Tokyo game show yesterday.
You can see pics here:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/15/screens_6133335.html?page=1
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/15/screens_6133335.html?page=2
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/15/screens_6133335.html?page=3
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/15/screens_6133335.html?page=5

The article is here:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/15/news_6133335.html

I have to say, on first look I'm not that impressed. It's basically a remote control. The shape looks like it will be Awkward to use.
According to the article, it was quite good to use so I could be wrong.

rainbow kirby

And with a large dose of WTF?? Kirby sighs. I'm not a bit impressed. Damn, it just looks like a TV remote!
Looks like all the next-gen consoles have something that looks like a household implement...
Xbox360 (vertical) = blender
PS3 = George Foreman grill/fridge
Nintendo Revolution controller = TV remote...
*le sigh*
And it now looks like my sig is outdated, because the controller has neither 11 analogue sticks nor a 32" touch screen... and doesn't appear to be covered in human skin.

Gummy Panda

the vid shows the potential of the remote controller.

skywalker

rainbow kirby wrote:

And with a large dose of WTF?? Kirby sighs. I'm not a bit impressed. Damn, it just looks like a TV remote!
Looks like all the next-gen consoles have something that looks like a household implement...
Xbox360 (vertical) = blender
PS3 = George Foreman grill/fridge
Nintendo Revolution controller = TV remote...
*le sigh*
And it now looks like my sig is outdated, because the controller has neither 11 analogue sticks nor a 32" touch screen... and doesn't appear to be covered in human skin.

Completely agree unfortunately. I hope the big N are still around the gen after this one.

RE*AC*TOR

jeez people, ye'r all getting very emotional about this. The speculation was the new controller ws going to be something unusual. Guess what, it is! In fact its something that no one had guessed. But at the end of the day the software will determine the use of the hardware. Remeber also that gamecube controllers are also compatible (like Sony and Microsoft - who continue with the same controller).

silverlining

I think it's deadly, it might even get more women playing computer games. I may not go the xbox360/ps3 route at all now.

I read a good article about it here: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143782

qz

Odd indeed... *strokes chin*

Retr0gamer

rainbow kirby wrote:

And it now looks like my sig is outdated, because the controller has neither 11 analogue sticks nor a 32" touch screen... and doesn't appear to be covered in human skin.

With the modular design there is nothing stopping you bolting on human skin and as many analogue sticks you can waggle. Steel Battelion has probably found it's new console home.

Dermo

the look of it put me off at first, but after looking at the videos and reading the reviews I now can't wait for it. it's getting rave reviews everywhere from people that have used it

Setun

What???

Its gonna be amazing! Big hand for Tendo doin domething new, I think the console will live up to its name personally. Admittedly the "remote" did seem a bit too simplistic, lacking buttons etc. I was wondering how the heck will you be able to play FPS's until I saw the analog attachment. Im just imagining playing Metroid, cruising around then looking and firing by moving the remote. Genius!

It's so next gen it's frightening people I think...

<hopefully these attachments come free with games or somethin though, can't afford built in coffee makers for Nescafe Simulator etc. every week>

johnny_ultimate

Im most excitited over the possibilty of using a lightsaber / sword. Yes folks we're all gonna look like idiots - and proud of it!

Pretor

At first i wasnt too sure of the design, but thats how everyone reacts when they see something new, now, the possibilities, its not just about which console has the most power anymore...

Now noone can call me an idiot when i move the controller in the direction i want to go,
i still havent got over that "move controller in direction u want to go" complex

Syth

I just wanna play a stab zombie game. No plot or story. Just a game where you get to stab lots of zombies. That'd be great fun.

GrumPy

ha

Drex

May that video never be seen outside of Japan. You know the japanese are up for new ideas, no matter how stupid they look doing it. Im quite looking forward to the revolution, especially with the controller and backwards compatability. But if a western audience sees that video.........

Farcear

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651383/vids_1.html

First Thought: THAT'S NOT A GAME CONTROLLER!!! THAT'S A TV REMOTE!

second thought: What's going on!? Wait....IT IS!!!!

That's the IGN video of the keynote speech. Yeah, the opening video is definately...different. The idea of being able to the Pointer in, say, a new Zelda game to control a sword would be cool.

The best application seems to be in 1st person shooters. There's a video somewhere of a guy from nintendo using it to play Metriod Echoes. Amazing.

I'm still a bit scared and confused at the moment though...

The Free Man

i found this, dunno if its real or what. its probably for playing gc games on it..

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg

TheIrishGrover

Don't like the initial look of the thing. I'm sure it'll get tweaked a bit and sexed up like a British Iraq Weapons Report but I tell ya, you gotta give it to Nintendo: They're not afraid to put their balls to the wall. I like the look of the thumb controller, the fact that it's on a cable connected to the other part. Could be very comfortable. Also, like syth said... Just a Zombie Stabbing game. Just Zombies lining up fer a good old stabbin'...... Oh, and think of all those kind of whack-a-mole games..... After a few pints with mates? Bit worried about the robustness of it though.... And 3rd party controllers are gonna be expensive I'd say

Cabelo

It's legendary. I'm not a Nintendo lad (nothing since the snes has captured my fancy in any way). I love this and it'll love me

iregk

The initial look i though, hmmm so whats so revolutionary about this? Then I watched the video demoing it and thought. WOW I want it. MS and Sony have played a safe game of pimp my console. Ninty doing what they do best (come up with teh ideas in the first place) have really gone a different direction and come up with something revolutionary.

The Rev out of the 3 consoles has held my interest the longest and now I just cannot see whats so appealing about the 360 or PS3 when you could have this baby.

skywalker

The Free Man wrote:

i found this, dunno if its real or what. its probably for playing gc games on it..

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg

Its not real as such. Its an impression from ign.com of what they expect the plug in "normal" controller to look like. Its probably not far off though.

Citizen_Erased

After seeing that video I have only one option.
I must get a folding chair, a sleeping bag and a toothbrush and camp outide my local game store till 2006. Still , I may have to abstain from eating, drinking ,socialising and just about everything else during the time but it'll be worth it.

And you think I'm being sarcastic?

Edit : I have been away for a while , when did retro take infinis mods?

Retr0gamer

About 3 weeks ago. Infini hasn't the time to moderate anymore and suggested me to be a moderator. Bless him, he obviously didn't realise he set the ball rolling for my plan of world conquest.

wayne040576

wayne040576 wrote:

I have to say, on first look I'm not that impressed. It's basically a remote control. The shape looks like it will be Awkward to use.
According to the article, it was quite good to use so I could be wrong.

After seeing the video and how it will be used it seems a lot better than my initial thoughts. But I can't see many third party developers supporting this especially the ones that will release multi format games, and that will pretty much decide how successful it is. I'm sure most Nintendo games will use it but it could be an utter flop unless they manage to get more developers to support it.
Plus the demos that the media were allowed to use at the tokyo game show were just proof of concept demos. They need to start showing videos of real games using it.

g.freeman

completely dissapointed...

i really really really cant think of one way that this will turn out good...
i just cant see how this controller is going to be useable in anything besides arcade games with no real depth.
another thing, i dont see how you could get good at it, my point being i like being the best at super smash bros melee and multi player games im good at where i can just completely smother other ppl in their own fecal matter because i know all the combos and know the controls perfectly, but with this having what...5 buttons? anyone could just pick the thing up play know everything be unsatisfied and still be the best.

i just dont like the fact that the controls for every game are going to be basically the same

besides the use of arcade games with no depth i really dont think its goin to be a hit

please Nintendo prove me wrong!

Goodshape

Have you actually read the articles about this thing? Seen the video?

I'm not even sure what you mean by 'arcade games with no depth', but both arcade games and the gameplay made possible with this controller would seem to allow for plenty of depth.

Also, a new SMBM game has been more or less confirmed for the Rev.

g.freeman

srry for dbl posting but i just saw this and wanted to show it this is what i saw after i posted the above comment...

this is what Mr. Miyamoto had to say about it

"We want a system that takes advantage of new technology for something that anyone, regardless of age or gender, can pick up and play. [Something with a] gameplay style that people who have never played games can pick up and not be intimidated by. We wanted a controller that somebody's mother will look at and not be afraid of."


that is exactly what i dont want. im a nintendo fan and i have both a ps2 fan freind and an xbox fan friend and they can both whip the **** out of me on their fav consoles games like halo and killzone and NFS and games like that, and i had nothing to really back myself up on because, really what did GC bring to the table? and now when im playing my revo and theyve got theirs i wont be much competition to them on the revolution controller since its so damn simple.

i think some of the best features of video gamin is the joy of trying and trying and trying new things until u nail it down and u really feel like u accomplished something, most people havent done before, and now theres nothing to conqure...


edit: u posted when i was typing. and id like to respond now... ok i guess they may be able to pull some stuff off and yes i did see the video but i just cant believe u can do alot with 5 buttons i hope they prove me wrong

Goodshape

g.freeman wrote:

edit: u posted when i was typing. and id like to respond now... ok i guess they may be able to pull some stuff off and yes i did see the video but i just cant believe u can do alot with 5 buttons i hope they prove me wrong

Yea, but it's not just five buttons; it's five buttons and full 3D movement.

Seriously, think of something like SSBM -- instead of hammering away on buttons to pull of a move, you'll be tilting to the left a bit, over to the right, lift up, thrust forward, aim at opponent, pull trigger... the possible combinations are countless - tilt the wrong way or at the wrong speed and you've messed it all up.

Plenty of 'new things' to try and try again.

And at the same time for games and gamers that simply don't want or need that level of frantic action it'll work great. Like a mouse only better. Which I think is what Miyamoto was on about.

Anyway.. who knows tbh, but I wouldn't write this thing off so soon. Looks bloody ace to me.

iregk

g.freeman wrote:

i just dont like the fact that the controls for every game are going to be basically the same

eh, have you been playing games for the last 10 years or are you a new commer?

the controls for every game already and all systems are basically the same. car games, x to go, o to break and dir pad to steer etc... xbox its right trigger to go left one to break. its allways the same hence why so many games sell and be sucessfull. if you had to learn a complete new controlling system every time your head woudl be wrecked. its been the same for 20 odd years!!!

g.freeman

u dont get my point im not comparing need for speed games to other need for spped games or zelda to zelda im saying that the whole movement thing is going to be the same for everything

oh and btw i dont think im considered a "new comer" since i have a feeling im probably the oldest on this board as sadly as that sounds...