Signing on MTV

xzanti

Why is it that MTV only have their sign language guy in the bottom right hand corner of the screen during the night, do they think all deaf people are nocturnal?? If I was deaf I think id be a bit pee'd off that Id have to sit up till all hours if I want to view Cribs or whatever other Sh*t they have to offer... If they are going to accommodate for the deaf community why dont they just have a designated MTV channel exclusively for the deaf?? They seem to have a channel for everything else these days...

Blisterman

Who would have thought that there'd be sign language on MTV. That used to be the one channel deaf people couldn't watch.

Gazza22

It's not only MTV that do this, around 4am alot of the digital music channels provide this service.

I agree with you, there should be some kind of channel set up to accomodate deaf people. It is a bit ridiculous to provide sign language so late at night.

bounty

i thought only chavs watched moran tv...

aidan_walsh

bounty wrote:

i thought only chavs watched moran tv...

Dylan Moran has his own network now?

bounty

yea aidan, thats exactly what i meant

chillywilly

aidan_walsh wrote:

Dylan Moran has his own network now?

lol, you got em there!

jcoote

its cos if u have some guy wavin his hands at 8 oclock in the evenin people are gonna be pissed off cos its prime time tv...

at 4 in the mornin there would be only a fraction of the people watchin so its not gonna put to many out...

so is that discrimination against the deaf or should hey be glad the tv networks thought of the sign language guys even if t is at 4 in the mornin

whiskeyman

some of the programmes on the BBC are repeated, usually within that week, late in the night / early morning with sign langauge so people who use it can record the programme and then watch it.
They obviously dont expect people to stay up and watch it.
It's similar to the Learning Zone on BBC2...

Sangre

Its so they can tape it and watch it later.

Gazza22

Sangre wrote:

Its so they can tape it and watch it later.

I would say this is what the channels are expecting the deaf people to do. But why should they have to do this? They should have a channel that can give them live entertainment

whiskeyman

gazza22 wrote:

They should have a channel that can give them live entertainment

The market isnt there... it's as simple as that.
Programmes cost money you know, and they'd be reliant on advertising that wouldnt cover the costs.
It's not as if 100% of all deaf people are going to watch either.

Gazza22

whiskeyman wrote:

The market isnt there... it's as simple as that.
Programmes cost money you know, and they'd be reliant on advertising that wouldnt cover the costs.
It's not as if 100% of all deaf people are going to watch either.

Yeah i agree with you. I suppose when you look at it that way, having to record and watch later is better than nothing at all.

billy the squid

stations are oblidged by the regulator to carry sign on a percentage of their programming

You will find programmes on Sky One with signing also late at night.

Sparky

mtv not long ago had subtitles on teletext 888, but i think its gone now.

most of the channels on sky now have signing at late hours or early on sunday morning
ie: sky movies, bravo etc

Mimikyu

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Sparky

Sangre wrote:

Its so they can tape it and watch it later.

They'd love sky+ with the subtitles switched on;):D

Mossy Monk

how many tv channels would carry this service if they werent forced? very few i'd imagine. why have it in the middle of the night? because to have it during primetime would seriously piss off viewers and in turn piss off advertisers who arent getting the maximum audience figures which would then mean tv channel gets less money.

but why are music only channels obliged to carry this service? cant imagine deaf people tapping there feet to sign language

billy the squid

MTV hasnt been a propper music channel in nearly 10 years.

sky one is not a music only channel, neither are bravo bbc1 bbc2 or the ITV channels.

Timans

Is that not a bit bad?deaf people can't listen to music, so is it not a kick in the teeth to have subtitles on MUSIC Tv?

Jonny Arson

The funniest story I heard about deaf people and music was when Queens of the Stone Age released their album ''Songs For The Deaf'' and a group of deaf people showed up at one of their gigs to coincide with the albums release!

Mossy Monk

lol, i remember hearing about something to do with deaf people who turned up at a music store to purchase said album "Songs For The Deaf"

Stokolan

Sound Barrier wrote:

Is that not a bit bad?deaf people can't listen to music, so is it not a kick in the teeth to have subtitles on MUSIC Tv?

possibly. but how often are there actual music vids on mtv.. anytime i turn on the channel there only seems to be some sort of reality show!

sceptre

Sparky_S wrote:

They'd love sky+ with the subtitles switched on;):D

Indeed.

The ideal solution would obviously to have some sort of red button feature where the signing guy can be made to appear or disappear at will. Akin to the subtitles or the audio description feature becoming more common lately (for anyone who's missed it the last but one Sky software update added a handy instant way to turn on the subtitles (or the audio description where available) by pressing the help button). Unfortunately the tech just isn't there to make it possible at the moment and renting extra transponders just to show the same channel again for a relatively small market wouldn't be considered viable.

So the solution's the current one, non-ideal as it is but useful for those prepared to record it. Not having hearing difficulties I tend to see the signing on regular TV shows as more useful for those with the disability than signing of the latest crap pop hit on MTV but doubtless there are those who avail of it and appreciate it. Obviously there are those out there who appear to like Cribs, both hearing and hearing-disabled, though I can't fathom why either would give a monkey's doodah myself.